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Title: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 16, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
Here's the list as of today 8th August 2017

Rumours/Possible Signings:
Peter Skapetis - Possible Injury Cover signing

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
1. Emilio Martinez (Scholarship Contract)
21. Mitchell Oxborrow
20. Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
19. Corey Gameiro
18. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
17. Jade North
16. Matt McKay
15. Brett Holman (Marquee)
14. Nicholas D'Agostino
13. Connor O'Toole
12. Corey Brown
11. Jamie Young
10. Jack Hingert
9. Daniel Bowles
8. Michael Theo
7. Avram Papadopoulos
6. Jacob Pepper
5. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 16, 2016, 12:35:16 PM
** Last thread was up to 58 pages so decided to start again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 16, 2016, 12:47:25 PM
So we have 5 spots open in the senior squad which includes 2 Visa spots. The more time that goes by, the less confident I am in the club being able to move Polenz on which is a bit of a bugger.

So how we stack up:

GK's
Michael Theo
Jamie Young

RB's
Jack Hingert
(Daniel Bowles)
Jerome Polenz (Fgn)

CB's
Jade North
Luke DeVere
Daniel Bowles
Kye Rowles
(Connor O'Toole)

LB's
Corey Brown
Connor O'Toole

MID's
Dimitri Petratos
(Thomas Broich (Fgn))
Matt McKay
Corona (Fgn)
(Thomas Oar)
Joe Calleti (Youth)

Wingers
Thomas Broich (Fgn)
Brandon Borrello
Thomas Oar
Shannon Brady

Strikers
Jamie Maclaren

**********************************
IMO we need another quality main Striker + a young hungry one. Also need a quality midfielder or 2. If JA can find a strong LB that would be nice too.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on June 16, 2016, 01:22:26 PM
But we only need 1 more playing to make up the minimum squad numbers? Thinking worst case scenrio, but I assume if we were only bringing in 1 more person, they would be on a hefty wage to have us at the minimum cap spend.

Agree with your wishlist Finsta.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on June 16, 2016, 03:17:23 PM
A couple of the youth strikers have been doing well. D'Agostino and one other whose name escapes me.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 16, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
A couple of the youth strikers have been doing well. D'Agostino and one other whose name escapes me.
Ah yes, D'Agostino has been banging them in for the Youth side. Great prospect it seems.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 17, 2016, 03:51:21 PM
Jeff Hopkins has been announced by the Victory as their new W-League team manager. Ex Brisbane W-League manager as well as Mens team assistant coach. Had been around Brisbane since 2008.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Roary on June 18, 2016, 06:32:49 AM
Is Caletti actually on a senior deal? Same with O'Toole, D'Agostino and Rowles?. I swear we have more spots left, but nonetheless, we sure as hell have a big chunk of cap space left
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on June 18, 2016, 06:44:45 AM
I'm sure Rowles
Is Caletti actually on a senior deal? Same with O'Toole, D'Agostino and Rowles?. I swear we have more spots left, but nonetheless, we sure as hell have a big chunk of cap space left
& p
Is Caletti actually on a senior deal? Same with O'Toole, D'Agostino and Rowles?. I swear we have more spots left, but nonetheless, we sure as hell have a big chunk of cap space left
I'm sure Rowles & O'Toole were signed to 2 year senior contracts.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on June 18, 2016, 07:21:25 AM
I'm sure Rowles
Is Caletti actually on a senior deal? Same with O'Toole, D'Agostino and Rowles?. I swear we have more spots left, but nonetheless, we sure as hell have a big chunk of cap space left
& p
Is Caletti actually on a senior deal? Same with O'Toole, D'Agostino and Rowles?. I swear we have more spots left, but nonetheless, we sure as hell have a big chunk of cap space left
I'm sure Rowles & O'Toole were signed to 2 year senior contracts.

Rowles & Otoole are on 2 yr deals , Caletti has one year left on his pro youth contract , not sure about Dagastino but I'm pretty sure he has also 1 year left pro youth .
We have also got Panettta and Rodic in the mix for pro youth contracts I think .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 18, 2016, 08:37:56 AM
Rowles and O'Toole are definitely on senior deals as I got that confirmed. 99% sure Caletti is on a Pro Youth deal. I imagine D'Agostino will be nailed on for one as well if not already. Or a senior deal.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Roary on June 21, 2016, 03:34:56 AM
Ok, thanks. Hopefully the youngsters on senior deals are of decent quality, otherwise it could end up like Takahashi and Do
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on June 21, 2016, 01:18:38 PM
Ok, thanks. Hopefully the youngsters on senior deals are of decent quality, otherwise it could end up like Takahashi and Do

I have not seen Rowles or Caletti play yet as both have been injured and unable to play NPL , have seen Dagatino and OToole , both look very confident technical players and they should be getting reasonable game time next season as part of their development .
I don't think JA will try to overload either in their first pro season as he would be looking long term.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Roary on June 23, 2016, 06:13:59 AM
Cheers :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 11, 2016, 11:36:42 AM
**UPDATED..... As it stands, 19 Players confirmed for the coming season.**

Here's the list as of today 11th July 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
- -

Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Matt McKay
13. Jerome Polenz (Fgn)
12. Luke DeVere
11. Jamie Maclaren
10. Corona (Fgn)

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia)
James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
Shane Stefanutto - Retiring
Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
Luke Brattan - Released.
Andrija Kaluderovic - Off Contract - Free Agent.
George Lambadaridis - Released.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 11, 2016, 01:48:55 PM
So that's 20 players , any news on Dagastino and Rodic?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 11, 2016, 02:07:20 PM
I wonder if we are going to use up our other two visa spots. Surely we have to spend more money to be at the minimum cap spend.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 11, 2016, 03:43:22 PM
FFS, when is this ownership situation going to be resolved??
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 11, 2016, 04:34:48 PM
There's an article doing the rounds today that Aloisi is looking to bring in players. Up front and attacking mids is the main focus.

**Miron Mercedes posted the articlt in this thread: "HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #4"**
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 11, 2016, 09:40:43 PM
Polanz gooooonne ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 11, 2016, 09:43:39 PM
Polanz gooooonne ;D

Is this just wishful thinking?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 11, 2016, 09:59:04 PM
The write up says Polenz is going but negotiating a pay out which impacts the salary cap.
So potentially there are three visa spots but reduced dollars to bring someone in.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 11, 2016, 10:32:46 PM
The write up says Polenz is going but negotiating a pay out which impacts the salary cap.
So potentially there are three visa spots but reduced dollars to bring someone in.
What write up?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 12, 2016, 03:16:34 AM
UNWANTED Brisbane Roar fullback Jerome Polenz is set to part ways with the three-time A-League champions despite having a year left on his contract.

Polenz was a notable absentee from the Roar?s first pre-season training session at Griffith University?s Nathan campus on Monday.

The German fullback is not a required player at the Roar, having played just 75 minutes of A-League football last season.

The former Western Sydney Wanderers defender is in talks with Roar managing director Daniel Cobb about leaving, with his departure to free up a valuable visa player spot in the Brisbane squad.

However, Polenz will want financial compensation, which will eat into the Roar?s salary cap.

While Polenz was absent on Monday, another ex-Wanderer ? midfielder Jacob Pepper ? trained with his new teammates for the first-time after signing a one-year Roar contract.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 12, 2016, 05:46:02 AM
Back at training this week. Is there a physio?
Tony Gantner's site no longer shows the Roar as a current client so it looks like the new owner  has not renegotiate and get him to return after he walked.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 12, 2016, 07:03:18 AM
UNWANTED Brisbane Roar fullback Jerome Polenz is set to part ways with the three-time A-League champions despite having a year left on his contract.

Polenz was a notable absentee from the Roar?s first pre-season training session at Griffith University?s Nathan campus on Monday.

The German fullback is not a required player at the Roar, having played just 75 minutes of A-League football last season.

The former Western Sydney Wanderers defender is in talks with Roar managing director Daniel Cobb about leaving, with his departure to free up a valuable visa player spot in the Brisbane squad.

However, Polenz will want financial compensation, which will eat into the Roar?s salary cap.

While Polenz was absent on Monday, another ex-Wanderer ? midfielder Jacob Pepper ? trained with his new teammates for the first-time after signing a one-year Roar contract.
Thanks Fixer. What I should have asked was where was that written and by whom. Although I don't distrust you or Chico, I generally like to get a sense of the reliability of the source.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 12, 2016, 07:06:17 AM
UNWANTED Brisbane Roar fullback Jerome Polenz is set to part ways with the three-time A-League champions despite having a year left on his contract.

Polenz was a notable absentee from the Roar?s first pre-season training session at Griffith University?s Nathan campus on Monday.

The German fullback is not a required player at the Roar, having played just 75 minutes of A-League football last season.

The former Western Sydney Wanderers defender is in talks with Roar managing director Daniel Cobb about leaving, with his departure to free up a valuable visa player spot in the Brisbane squad.

However, Polenz will want financial compensation, which will eat into the Roar?s salary cap.

While Polenz was absent on Monday, another ex-Wanderer ? midfielder Jacob Pepper ? trained with his new teammates for the first-time after signing a one-year Roar contract.

Thanks Fixer. What I should have asked was where was that written and by whom. Although I don't distrust you or Chico, I generally like to get a sense of the reliability of the source.


Courier Mail. Written by Marco.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/jerome-polenz-set-to-leave-brisbane-roar-with-a-year-still-left-on-his-contract/news-story/4229d534d25f9270c7f4b39974159e40 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/jerome-polenz-set-to-leave-brisbane-roar-with-a-year-still-left-on-his-contract/news-story/4229d534d25f9270c7f4b39974159e40)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 12, 2016, 08:58:45 AM
Polenz leaving has been on the cards for a long time. The only sticking point is compensation.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 12, 2016, 10:03:05 AM
Polenz leaving has been on the cards for a long time. The only sticking point is compensation.

Given the amount of time he has had without playing, it would be hard to find a club that would want to take him. Given this, it makes sense that he would ask for compensation.

I am sure he would have known for a while that he wasn't going to be in contention to play. He really should have negotiated a release a long time ago, before the gap in playing time grew too big. He has really played himself and the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 12, 2016, 10:37:45 AM
He was injured for a long time, and seemed to get injured again just as he was about to get game time again. I reckon his confidence got shot the season before last and he couldn't keep it together.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 12, 2016, 04:31:16 PM
Back at training this week. Is there a physio?
Tony Gantner's site no longer shows the Roar as a current client so it looks like the new owner  has not renegotiate and get him to return after he walked.
Matt Ham has announced that he's joined S&C team at Brisbane Roar. Not sure if he's running the show or just part of it. He had his own gym running at East Brisbane for a few years now: Hammer Athletic.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 12, 2016, 06:40:37 PM
UNWANTED Brisbane Roar fullback Jerome Polenz is set to part ways with the three-time A-League champions despite having a year left on his contract.

Polenz was a notable absentee from the Roar?s first pre-season training session at Griffith University?s Nathan campus on Monday.

The German fullback is not a required player at the Roar, having played just 75 minutes of A-League football last season.

The former Western Sydney Wanderers defender is in talks with Roar managing director Daniel Cobb about leaving, with his departure to free up a valuable visa player spot in the Brisbane squad.

However, Polenz will want financial compensation, which will eat into the Roar?s salary cap.

While Polenz was absent on Monday, another ex-Wanderer ? midfielder Jacob Pepper ? trained with his new teammates for the first-time after signing a one-year Roar contract.

Thanks Fixer. What I should have asked was where was that written and by whom. Although I don't distrust you or Chico, I generally like to get a sense of the reliability of the source.


Courier Mail. Written by Marco.

[url]http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/jerome-polenz-set-to-leave-brisbane-roar-with-a-year-still-left-on-his-contract/news-story/4229d534d25f9270c7f4b39974159e40[/url] ([url]http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/jerome-polenz-set-to-leave-brisbane-roar-with-a-year-still-left-on-his-contract/news-story/4229d534d25f9270c7f4b39974159e40[/url])

Ta...that explains why I hadn't seen it....
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 12, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
Sorry , I thought I'd copied the link , shouda checked :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 12, 2016, 07:58:54 PM
Sorry , I thought I'd copied the link , shouda checked :(
All good...got there in the end ;-)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 12, 2016, 08:40:42 PM
Back at training this week. Is there a physio?
Tony Gantner's site no longer shows the Roar as a current client so it looks like the new owner  has not renegotiate and get him to return after he walked.

Matt Ham has announced that he's joined S&C team at Brisbane Roar. Not sure if he's running the show or just part of it. He had his own gym running at East Brisbane for a few years now: Hammer Athletic.


According to Marco's article which was posted here (http://theroarforum.com/index.php?topic=9175.msg200347;boardseen#new (http://theroarforum.com/index.php?topic=9175.msg200347;boardseen#new)), Tony Ganter has been paid and is back.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 13, 2016, 12:12:39 PM
So how I think it works:

Physio, injuries etc is Tony Ganter's space.
Strength and Conditioninig Coach is Karl Dodd and his selected team.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 15, 2016, 09:51:25 AM
So with Corona leaving the club's attention must focus on finding a quality replacement. Question is, do we go for a play destroying, good passing DM or a deep lying playmaker type player?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: FKA on July 15, 2016, 10:56:31 AM
Broich to shift into that spot? Can tackle, definitely can pass.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 15, 2016, 11:19:33 AM
Broich to shift into that spot? Can tackle, definitely can pass.
Interesting thought. Would mean less bumps and bruises you'd think and less running.. Make him a Pirlo type player hey?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 15, 2016, 12:37:53 PM
Worth noting that we're down to 2 foreign imports meaning there's 3 possibly 4 (if Polenz leaves) opportunities to bring in quality from overseas.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on July 15, 2016, 02:29:49 PM
Broich to shift into that spot? Can tackle, definitely can pass.

Sorry but I'd would have to say no way.... he's an attacking dribbler, plays a much shorter passing game.
He be totally wasted at 6.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: TenaciousAC on July 15, 2016, 06:35:09 PM
So with Corona leaving the club's attention must focus on finding a quality replacement. Question is, do we go for a play destroying, good passing DM or a deep lying playmaker type player?

I've always liked a 'first line' DM. The guy who is the first defender attackers come up against (takes pressure off North and Devere/Bowles), and merely the first cog of the attack without needing to be key for it. I imagine keeper, 5 in defence (4 at the back + DM), 5 in attack (mids, wings and forwards). Good balance and I think the wing play of the league isn't as strong compared to when teams bust it up the middle. :)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on July 15, 2016, 07:51:48 PM
So with Corona leaving the club's attention must focus on finding a quality replacement. Question is, do we go for a play destroying, good passing DM or a deep lying playmaker type player?

I've always liked a 'first line' DM. The guy who is the first defender attackers come up against (takes pressure off North and Devere/Bowles), and merely the first cog of the attack without needing to be key for it. I imagine keeper, 5 in defence (4 at the back + DM), 5 in attack (mids, wings and forwards). Good balance and I think the wing play of the league isn't as strong compared to when teams bust it up the middle. :)
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Yeah i like the  5/5 balance to.

We play with a DM (6) that sits in front of the back 4. The 6 really directs everything in that role of a sole player. Everything comes from him. 6 directs the play especially in attack. He decides where and how to pass. Short, long, wide, central or back. Corona is a master at it. 

Sure the quickest way to goal is straight up the middle,,,, but it can be a recipe for disaster if things go wrong. If you turn the ball over the opposition has all 3 attacking options available usually.

Whatever we need to buy wisely. Our formation relies on a smart 6. Otherwise you go for a 6&8 and end up with a 6 / 4 which is more defensive minded and not how we play. :))
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: TenaciousAC on July 15, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
Sure the quickest way to goal is straight up the middle,,,, but it can be a recipe for disaster if things go wrong. If you turn the ball over the opposition has all 3 attacking options available usually.

One thing with straight up the middle play in the final third is it becomes a happy accident. Attackers push the ball up into the final third. If it gets to one wing and nothing works, they immediately try to switch it to the other wing..... which would be good if they took one look and saw some of the glaring gaps that occur in the middle (be it horizontal space between centre backs or vertical space between mids and centre backs). The urge to switch from wing-to-wing often ignores lazy mids and CDs who don't track over & up. I'd love to see more disruptive movements where a winger can't find anything, passes it central, the mid looks to switch, and then just holds and runs up the middle........ play against the expected script. It gives you three aspects here - run forward to progress the play, increased goal area to improve a shot and IF the defenders foul you, a FK in a higher % area that brings direct FK goals into play. That's where Berisha was brilliant. His central running and willingness to be tackled towards the middle of the field put defenders in two minds. Put a defender on a yellow card and everyone can lick their lips. Instead of trying to execute an elaborate, 20-30 pass play that is never disruptive. Just 'holding & passing for the sake of both'.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on July 17, 2016, 10:53:07 PM
According to the Roar Website, Brisbane only have 15 players, with 3 months to the start of The League....isn't that a bit light on?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Darksigno on July 18, 2016, 07:19:36 AM
According to the Roar Website, Brisbane only have 15 players, with 3 months to the start of The League....isn't that a bit light on?

extremely light on, pretty sure minimum is 20 players? could be wrong 18 is also ringing a bell to me tho so I could be wrong
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 18, 2016, 07:21:01 AM
According to the Roar Website, Brisbane only have 15 players, with 3 months to the start of The League....isn't that a bit light on?

Kye Rowles and Connor O'Toole signed senior deals but the website hasn't been updated. If Polenz goes, we will have 16 (with 4 visa spots available). I believe the minimum squad number is 20.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 18, 2016, 08:24:30 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Darksigno on July 18, 2016, 09:06:28 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.

Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 18, 2016, 09:09:02 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.

Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap

According to Wikipedia, the max is 26.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Darksigno on July 18, 2016, 09:53:33 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.


Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap


According to Wikipedia, the max is 26.


We are clearly missing some critical information then, found the article I remember reading stating WSW had used 32 players in 1 season

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 18, 2016, 10:00:13 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.


Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap


According to Wikipedia, the max is 26.


We are clearly missing some critical information then, found the article I remember reading stating WSW had used 32 players in 1 season

[url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url] ([url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url])

That WSW squad count would've included injury replacements and also the couple of players they brought in just for the ACL. I'm sure at any one time their actual official "HAL" Squad would not have exceeded the max of 26.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 18, 2016, 10:05:55 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.


Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap


According to Wikipedia, the max is 26.


We are clearly missing some critical information then, found the article I remember reading stating WSW had used 32 players in 1 season

[url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url] ([url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url])

That WSW squad count would've included injury replacements and also the couple of players they brought in just for the ACL. I'm sure at any one time their actual official "HAL" Squad would not have exceeded the max of 26.


Would that also include any youth that were promoted for games?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Darksigno on July 18, 2016, 10:45:36 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.


Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap


According to Wikipedia, the max is 26.


We are clearly missing some critical information then, found the article I remember reading stating WSW had used 32 players in 1 season

[url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url] ([url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url])

That WSW squad count would've included injury replacements and also the couple of players they brought in just for the ACL. I'm sure at any one time their actual official "HAL" Squad would not have exceeded the max of 26.


I understand injury replacements would deregister the injured player and register his replacement but surely there would be a limit otherwise having the max players rule would be completely useless, I have my doubts that there were that many injuries as they would not have had a full team of 26 to begin the season, and im pretty sure that number of 32 was for purely A league use as City and Jets had 29 and neither of those were involved with ACL. and I think I read they used over 40 including ACL by seasons end

I just don't see there being a point to having a max squad number if you can just chop and change at will, you can say a player is injured 1 week and swap him out for another player and then bring them back in a weeks time feeling fresh as roses
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 18, 2016, 11:05:29 AM
20 players is the min , not sure the max but no chance we will get there anytime soon.


Is there a max? I remember WSW having used over 30 players in one of their seasons, I think just as long as they are all registered and below the cap


According to Wikipedia, the max is 26.


We are clearly missing some critical information then, found the article I remember reading stating WSW had used 32 players in 1 season

[url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url] ([url]http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/aleague-melbourne-city-and-western-sydney-wanderers-have-used-the-most-players-this-season/news-story/4a6ce7881f2eba53f0dae2a97e8cf4cc[/url])

That WSW squad count would've included injury replacements and also the couple of players they brought in just for the ACL. I'm sure at any one time their actual official "HAL" Squad would not have exceeded the max of 26.


I understand injury replacements would deregister the injured player and register his replacement but surely there would be a limit otherwise having the max players rule would be completely useless, I have my doubts that there were that many injuries as they would not have had a full team of 26 to begin the season, and im pretty sure that number of 32 was for purely A league use as City and Jets had 29 and neither of those were involved with ACL. and I think I read they used over 40 including ACL by seasons end

I just don't see there being a point to having a max squad number if you can just chop and change at will, you can say a player is injured 1 week and swap him out for another player and then bring them back in a weeks time feeling fresh as roses


I think the point is that there is a maximum of 26 players that can be signed to senior deals, meaning the minimum cap spend (90 or 95%) must be used on a maximum of 26 players. I think this would ensure a certain level of quality across the senior squad.

Players from the youth side can also be brought in (promoted) to the game day squad, for example, Borello was on a full time youth contract up until February of this year but still made a lot of appearances for the senior team before then. WSW have a lot of good youth players and this would boost the total number of people who had played for them during the season.

Injury replacement's actually need to be signed to the club for a certain period and I am pretty sure the person they replace doesn't play while their replacement is still at the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 18, 2016, 11:22:56 AM
There's never been anything stopping clubs signing a player on a "1 week contract" provided that there's been a space available in the squad. Eg. D'Agostino played a game for us last season as a replacement for Maclaren who was away.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on July 21, 2016, 03:40:07 PM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 21, 2016, 04:50:15 PM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.

We'll all be rooned, said Hanrahan...
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: goalfeast on July 21, 2016, 07:40:41 PM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.

you've been saying that almost every season now you know. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on July 21, 2016, 08:29:32 PM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.

you've been saying that almost every season now you know. 

don't feed the troll GF...let him lurk unnourished under the bridge.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 21, 2016, 08:39:06 PM
We will be right ,give the coach and team a chance , Ffs not even kicked a ball yet :(
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: FireBlades19 on July 22, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.

you've been saying that almost every season now you know. 

don't feed the troll GF...let him lurk unnourished under the bridge.

but that means he'll come out from underneath the bridge and start walking among us city folk :P
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on July 22, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.

you've been saying that almost every season now you know. 

don't feed the troll GF...let him lurk unnourished under the bridge.

but that means he'll come out from underneath the bridge and start walking among us city folk :P

I actually don't know if he actually exists..he could be a computer program that thinks he is human. Has anyone ever seen him/her/it in the flesh ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: goalfeast on July 22, 2016, 01:43:45 PM
It seems to me that The Roar are now very likely to emulate The Lions.

At the turn of the century, Brisbane Lions won 3 in a row. The Roar had similar success recently.

But now The Lions are a basket case, at the foot of the table.

Roar to join them.

you've been saying that almost every season now you know. 

don't feed the troll GF...let him lurk unnourished under the bridge.

but that means he'll come out from underneath the bridge and start walking among us city folk :P

I actually don't know if he actually exists..he could be a computer program that thinks he is human. Has anyone ever seen him/her/it in the flesh ?

We need one of those 'I'm not a robot' features on the forum when you send a post.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on July 22, 2016, 01:48:31 PM
He's not a robot... He's just a naughty boy ... Don't worry Theo no one knows your name
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on July 22, 2016, 05:24:27 PM
He's not a robot... He's just a naughty boy ... Don't worry Theo no one knows your name

A robot could be called Theo.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on July 22, 2016, 07:09:12 PM
We will be right ,give the coach and team a chance , Ffs not even kicked a ball yet :(

It's the off season - get into the spirit of it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 22, 2016, 07:10:25 PM
We will be right ,give the coach and team a chance , Ffs not even kicked a ball yet :(
I kicked a ball the other day.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 29, 2016, 10:52:44 AM
*UPDATED*
*4 Spots still available including 2 foreign positions.*

Here's the list as of today 29th July 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
- -

Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
19. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
18. Jacob Pepper
17. Jade North
16. Dimitri Petratos
15. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
14. Michael Theo
13. Matt McKay
12. Jerome Polenz (Fgn)
11. Luke DeVere
10. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia)
James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
Shane Stefanutto - Retiring
Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
Luke Brattan - Released.
Andrija Kaluderovic - Off Contract - Free Agent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 01, 2016, 04:35:57 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 01, 2016, 04:38:03 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.
Would.

Put on a year's contract and give him scouting duties as well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 01, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.

But he only just left.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 01, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.

But he only just left.
Malaysia can be a big shock after leaving Australia. Not as bad as some places, but far worse in many ways than sleepy Brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on August 01, 2016, 05:42:59 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.
Would.

Put on a year's contract and give him scouting duties as well.

he can't see over the fence to take on scouting duties.... let alone have shown an eye for picking talent
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 01, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.
Would.

Put on a year's contract and give him scouting duties as well.

he can't see over the fence to take on scouting duties.... let alone have shown an eye for picking talent
I was thinking back to the marvellous job Reinaldo did for us in the scouting area. Would be good if Ricky could attract some underrated Brazilian talent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on August 01, 2016, 09:20:12 PM
Fresh rumour doing the rounds that Henrique could be seeking a return to Brisbane.
Would.

Put on a year's contract and give him scouting duties as well.

he can't see over the fence to take on scouting duties.... let alone have shown an eye for picking talent
I was thinking back to the marvellous job Reinaldo did for us in the scouting area. Would be good if Ricky could attract some underrated Brazilian talent.

did he  ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 01, 2016, 10:22:05 PM
Reinaldo brought us Ricky
http://www.a-league.com.au/article/fish-ready-to-roar/iq6wbtmh0j0y1v9eoa5d2o9co (http://www.a-league.com.au/article/fish-ready-to-roar/iq6wbtmh0j0y1v9eoa5d2o9co)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 03, 2016, 09:32:23 PM
SBS reporting that Henrique is keen to come back.
Let's hope this rumour keeps on building until it becomes reality.
The article suggests JA may not want him back. But I reckon JA is bigger than that.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on August 04, 2016, 07:31:07 AM
Yes, we need our Super sub to come back home, he always gives us a lift when he comes on, am sure JA will welcome back one of the Roars favourite sons.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 04, 2016, 10:57:54 AM
I think it could really happen now. It would be brilliant!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 04, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Daggers has been signed to a 2 year deal. Training with a Belgian side apparently.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on August 04, 2016, 08:06:17 PM
I have a (potentially) dumb question....why, when we need backup for Macca, would we sign a form youth striker to a 2 year pro deal, then send him overseas? Are we Man City, now?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: @BrisbaneRover on August 04, 2016, 08:37:34 PM
Why sign him up then loan him out overseas?

$$$$$$$$$??????????????? is why
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on August 04, 2016, 08:59:14 PM
Why sign him up then loan him out overseas?

$$$$$$$$$??????????????? is why
For whom? We get nothing from a loan and depending on the deal, we may have to contribute to his wages.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: TenaciousAC on August 04, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
Why sign him up then loan him out overseas?

$$$$$$$$$??????????????? is why
For whom? We get nothing from a loan and depending on the deal, we may have to contribute to his wages.

Given he'd be very close to an entry-level rookie deal, it would be odd if a foreign club didn't want to pay his minimum A-League wage (I'll predict $60k at most based on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-League#Squad_formation_and_salary_cap).

$60k/year = $1,150/wk.

The Roar would eat $1k/week now if they can flip him for even a $100k transfer fee inside a year (that's $50k pure profit). And if the overseas team has to eat $1k/week, that's nothing if they can leverage a good transfer deal because of it, then develop himself into something down the track.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 04, 2016, 09:10:18 PM
I have a (potentially) dumb question....why, when we need backup for Macca, would we sign a form youth striker to a 2 year pro deal, then send him overseas? Are we Man City, now?
I assume a contract will be given to Katebian?
And if Ricky comes back.....................
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on August 04, 2016, 09:33:19 PM
I have a (potentially) dumb question....why, when we need backup for Macca, would we sign a form youth striker to a 2 year pro deal, then send him overseas? Are we Man City, now?
I assume a contract will be given to Katebian?
And if Ricky comes back.....................
Hope so, on both counts.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 05, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
Daggers at this stage is going over to train. I think it's great business by Brisbane. The Belgian side has been keeping tabs on him however nothing concrete has come his way. Now he's been doing well in the NYL and NPL so he has a future as Brisbane and that has been acted upon.
Now if the Belgian side want to sign him then Brisbane will get a transfer fee. if he just goes on loan then fine, he's still on our books and will get good training and exposure over there..
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on August 05, 2016, 12:45:57 PM
Congrats to Daggers as he has worked hard. I recall seeing him play nyl a few years ago as a 15 year old and he looked promising then

This is all positive for the Roar. From my understanding of loan agreements, if he goes Genk covers his wages so he comes off the books at the roar even though he is technically still owned by the Roar.

This is a big step forward for the Roar in youth development. This can lay a foundation for players from 16 to 20 to gain experience in overseas leagues whilst still under the ownership of the roar. Well done to Craig Moore and Co.

In relation to Ricky. He left us cause he wanted more money. He was offered a contract as advised by the press release however he opted out.

We don't need bench warmers regardless of who they are. We need players that are versatile and can play 90 mins when needed. Ricky was a great sub but never a 90 minute player. I know my comments will anger a few but what team really just wants a good bench player???

He should have taken the contract offered and stayed.

We read that Craig Moore is overseas. Maybe negotiating with some players we hope. I don't think we've seen the last of new player signings

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 05, 2016, 01:14:31 PM
If you have a sub that can come on and score in the last 20 more times than not, that's a sub you want on your bench.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on August 05, 2016, 04:02:43 PM
I have a (potentially) dumb question....why, when we need backup for Macca, would we sign a form youth striker to a 2 year pro deal, then send him overseas? Are we Man City, now?
I assume a contract will be given to Katebian?
And if Ricky comes back.....................

Yep Katebian to be offered a contract.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: spongebob on August 05, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
starter ou have a sub that can come on and score in the last 20 more times than not, that's a sub you want on your bench.

exactly. I would love to see him back. He had a great season off the bench.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 08, 2016, 09:46:16 AM
*UPDATED*
**As it stands we have 2 positions open**

Here's the list as of today 8th August 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
- -

Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Matt McKay
13. Jerome Polenz (Fgn)
12. Luke DeVere
11. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
10. Nicholas D'Agostino
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia)
James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
Shane Stefanutto - Retiring
Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
Luke Brattan - Released.
Andrija Kaluderovic - Off Contract - Free Agent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 15, 2016, 03:18:26 PM
Brisbane have terminated Polenz contract by mutual agreement
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: kb55 on August 15, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
Brisbane Roar Football Club can confirm today that an agreement has been reached with Jerome Polenz to mutually terminate his contract, effective immediately.
The German-born defender joined the Roar mid-way through the 2014/15 Hyundai A-League season making twelve (12) appearances for the club over the previous two seasons.
The Brisbane Roar would like to thank Jerome for his contribution to club and wish him all the best in his future footballing endeavours.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on August 15, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
I'm glad they have reached terms..... Sadly there is only people leaving this club at the moment.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Gympie Roar on August 15, 2016, 04:02:44 PM
Finally some good news, now for some more signings.Hopefully some defenders.Is moore still in brazil is he there to get some players or to watch the olympics ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Darksigno on August 15, 2016, 04:23:53 PM
Finally some good news, now for some more signings.Hopefully some defenders.Is moore still in brazil is he there to get some players or to watch the olympics ?

scouting Neymar Jr obviously heard he was a gun ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on August 15, 2016, 04:55:31 PM
I hope they bring Henrique back.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 16, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 16th August 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
- -

Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
20. Joey Katebian
19. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
18. Jacob Pepper
17. Jade North
16. Dimitri Petratos
15. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
14. Michael Theo
13. Matt McKay
12. Luke DeVere
11. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
10. Nicholas D'Agostino
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia)
James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
Shane Stefanutto - Retiring
Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
Luke Brattan - Released.
Andrija Kaluderovic - Off Contract - Free Agent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: goalfeast on August 16, 2016, 09:02:45 AM
The way it's going you'll have a stack of players to add to that released list by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 16, 2016, 10:40:56 AM
9 of those released were since the end of last season. (There are 11 on the list now)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: David Gregory on August 16, 2016, 10:41:23 AM
Henrique to Adelaide.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on August 16, 2016, 11:10:53 AM
Henrique to Adelaide.

he would be a good signing for them after losing half their team...

a big bonus for him, is that he'll get want he wants 90 minutes of game time.

no room for him here. plus he properly wants to get paid >:(
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 16, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
Henrique to Adelaide.
That will sting badly!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
A poster on the Roar says that a number of Brisbane players, including Jamie McClaren, are heading for court today to have their contracts declared null and void.

If this is true, which it most likely is, then things will come to a head very quickly.  FFA will have no option but to move in.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: lucci on August 16, 2016, 11:36:28 AM
A poster on the Roar says that a number of Brisbane players, including Jamie McClaren, are heading for court today to have their contracts declared null and void.

If this is true, which it most likely is, then things will come to a head very quickly.  FFA will have no option but to move in.

Uh oh
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on August 16, 2016, 11:40:30 AM
A poster on the Roar says that a number of Brisbane players, including Jamie McClaren, are heading for court today to have their contracts declared null and void.

If this is true, which it most likely is, then things will come to a head very quickly.  FFA will have no option but to move in.

Uh oh

Oh Shit.... this isn't good news.. even if FFA step in it'll be to late.

If we lose Macca this season, then we are screwed, not to mention missing out on a transfer fee if he leaves.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 16, 2016, 12:01:41 PM
I'm 100% behind the players if they make this move. Everyone has bills to pay so this continual pay situation is ridiculous.

Best case scenario will be too get rid of Bakries and Cobb asap. Only the FFA can do this.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on August 16, 2016, 12:10:04 PM
I'm 100% behind the players if they make this move. Everyone has bills to pay so this continual pay situation is ridiculous.

Best case scenario will be too get rid of Bakries and Cobb asap. Only the FFA can do this.

I should point out, I'm behind the players as well, they need to look after themselves, and not being paid, puts them and there families under a lot of undue stress.

Not great for the club if the players leave... but they have been warned before, we lost players last year due to this...
It's just not acceptable, FFA should act today. provide wages and strip the club of the owners.

They have had more than three chances to sort there shit out. i don't know why the owners are sticking around, they aren't going to make any money, it's only going to cost them money, they should just walk away
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2016, 12:22:19 PM
I'm 100% behind the players if they make this move. Everyone has bills to pay so this continual pay situation is ridiculous.

Best case scenario will be too get rid of Bakries and Cobb asap. Only the FFA can do this.

Agree 100%.  I imagine that this is part of a strategy to force FFA's hand.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2016, 12:23:51 PM
I'm 100% behind the players if they make this move. Everyone has bills to pay so this continual pay situation is ridiculous.

Best case scenario will be too get rid of Bakries and Cobb asap. Only the FFA can do this.

I should point out, I'm behind the players as well, they need to look after themselves, and not being paid, puts them and there families under a lot of undue stress.

Not great for the club if the players leave... but they have been warned before, we lost players last year due to this...
It's just not acceptable, FFA should act today. provide wages and strip the club of the owners.

They have had more than three chances to sort there shit out. i don't know why the owners are sticking around, they aren't going to make any money, it's only going to cost them money, they should just walk away

They must be hanging on to the hope that they can still make a couple of million on the sale.

This is a complete train wreck.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 16, 2016, 01:01:15 PM
Vince Rugari on Twitter:
"All bar one player has been paid according to the PFA."
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on August 16, 2016, 01:35:31 PM
Vince Rugari on Twitter:
"All bar one player has been paid according to the PFA."

so, this is all just a bad rumour ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: goalfeast on August 16, 2016, 08:30:51 PM
TWG claim all players and staff have been paid.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on August 16, 2016, 09:35:26 PM
I reckon just pass a tin around each game day to pay the players
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: JackHammer on August 16, 2016, 09:38:00 PM
I reckon just pass a tin around each game day to pay the players

Do you reckon the Strikers would apply for a Brisbane A-league licence if a spot became available Sep?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on August 16, 2016, 09:47:27 PM
I reckon just pass a tin around each game day to pay the players

Do you reckon the Strikers would apply for a Brisbane A-league licence if a spot became available Sep?

They already have their tins ready.





....but it has always been their stated objective to play in the highest league available to them....so Yes.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2016, 09:55:01 PM
Vince Rugari on Twitter:
"All bar one player has been paid according to the PFA."

so, this is all just a bad rumour ;D


I will be more cautious next time!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2016, 09:57:33 PM
Vince Rugari on Twitter:
"All bar one player has been paid according to the PFA."


so, this is all just a bad rumour ;D



I will be more cautious next time!


I take that back:

From the Fox site:

"Though their salaries were paid, Roar players have begun seeking advice on having their contracts annulled, following the example of former Brisbane midfielder Luke Brattan who used the late payment of superannuation to walk away last year."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/football-federation-australia-want-answers-as-roar-engulfed-in-fresh-wave-of-aleague-controversy/news-story/64e17815c989b38db319aff9b7040f91 (http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/football-federation-australia-want-answers-as-roar-engulfed-in-fresh-wave-of-aleague-controversy/news-story/64e17815c989b38db319aff9b7040f91)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 01, 2016, 03:31:44 PM
We've signed Brett Holman!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: David Gregory on September 01, 2016, 03:33:48 PM
Great signing
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: MK on September 01, 2016, 03:35:06 PM
We've signed Brett Holman!

Dang, beat me to it!

Not sure how to feel about this - he used to frustrate the shit out of for the NT. Seemed to go missing for large parts of games.. Maybe that was just a reflection of the set-up/coaching style at the time and he'll flourish under the tutelage of an old mate. Either way, some more attacking potency should help take the pressure off certain older heads, while upping the competition for the younger ones.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on September 01, 2016, 03:38:56 PM
Hopefully he can help out our midfield, and provide some experience to the young mid's to build off.

Not the most exciting signing, but it's good to have him than no one.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: noodles on September 01, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
who?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on September 01, 2016, 03:53:02 PM
Confirmed or rumour?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 01, 2016, 03:59:27 PM
Confirmed or rumour?
Confirmed by the club on Twitter.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on September 02, 2016, 01:16:53 PM
Four of the young lads picked for U20s Chapness, OToole , Rowles and Prassad .
Away until end of October with tounaments in Veitnam and Bahrain .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 02, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
I notice Kingsman said there will be one more player brought in after Holman....hope its a left back ...
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on September 02, 2016, 05:33:21 PM
I notice Kingsman said there will be one more player brought in after Holman....hope its a left back ...

...or someone who can play as a left back....
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 07, 2016, 11:32:55 AM
*UPDATED*
*Added Brett Holman. I'm not 100% sure on his contract length but it's definitely minimum 2 years because he goes onto a marquee spot for the 2017/18 season.*

Here's the list as of today 7th September 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
- -

Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Matt McKay
13. Luke DeVere
12. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
11. Brett Holman
10. Nicholas D'Agostino
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
30/05/2015 - Luke Brattan - Released.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 07, 2016, 11:34:04 AM
2 spots left open. 3 foreign spots available.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: FireBlades19 on September 07, 2016, 12:42:16 PM
2 spots left open. 3 foreign spots available.

you think we would be active in the mid season transfer window with those spots available....
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 07, 2016, 01:34:38 PM
2 spots left open. 3 foreign spots available.

you think we would be active in the mid season transfer window with those spots available....
Yeah that's the most likely scenario. There is a chance that the likes of D'Agostino, Maclaren, Petratos and Borrello could be sounded out by OS clubs meaning JA will need to plug those losses. Also from what various people have said, Shannon Brady is well on the outer and if that's true then a "mutual contract termination" could be on the cards there too.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: TenaciousAC on September 07, 2016, 10:47:18 PM
Also from what various people have said, Shannon Brady is well on the outer and if that's true then a "mutual contract termination" could be on the cards there too.

And that worked wonders regarding Jerome Polenz..... oh wait.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: David Gregory on September 08, 2016, 05:12:40 PM
All of a sudden Shannon Brady is not popular on this forum.
When his ridiculous 4 year contract was given, most were doing summersaults with excitement and proffessing a golden career.
I was more than critical of brady as he has very little talent.
Hervas was another that from day one or even before he arrived was a dud.
We have a couple more now. One has arrived via ross Aloisi and his friend, the other from craig moore's management.
Neither are upto it but good luck if you can get the gig.
We have a good team so for a while we can cover for them.
But just to remind you.
Had Hervas not come on against the wanderers we would have played another grand final.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 08, 2016, 08:51:14 PM
We have a couple more now. One has arrived via ross Aloisi and his friend, the other from craig moore's management.
Neither are upto it but good luck if you can get the gig.
We have a good team so for a while we can cover for them.
Hello David
You don't say who the couple more duds are?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 08, 2016, 10:16:46 PM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orangblack on September 08, 2016, 10:41:43 PM
Japanese fullback Hiroki Omori to trial with Roar this Saturday:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/breaking-news/japanese-fullback-hiroki-omori-to-trial-with-brisbane-roar-against-mariners-on-saturday/news-story/260319fe25501ae92038e789a40d8031 (http://www.foxsports.com.au/breaking-news/japanese-fullback-hiroki-omori-to-trial-with-brisbane-roar-against-mariners-on-saturday/news-story/260319fe25501ae92038e789a40d8031)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 09, 2016, 05:41:30 AM
Japanese fullback Hiroki Omori to trial with Roar this Saturday:

[url]http://www.foxsports.com.au/breaking-news/japanese-fullback-hiroki-omori-to-trial-with-brisbane-roar-against-mariners-on-saturday/news-story/260319fe25501ae92038e789a40d8031[/url] ([url]http://www.foxsports.com.au/breaking-news/japanese-fullback-hiroki-omori-to-trial-with-brisbane-roar-against-mariners-on-saturday/news-story/260319fe25501ae92038e789a40d8031[/url])

I am glad to see that JA and co do look at what is on offer locally. Always on the lookout for the next Ivan Franjic.
But using up a visa position in this way seems a real shot in the dark. And suggests that maybe the other visa player (another signing to come) that was talked about by JA  fell through.
At face value, maybe he just impressed as the  article says and was not in the plan.
Does anybody know anything about this guy?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on September 09, 2016, 06:19:17 AM
He's a right back, so JA looks to be trying to cover the gap left by Polenz. I was impressed by him in the Strikers v City game. Went forward a lot, and harassed the City defensive flanks...and was solid in defence too.
21 games in the JFL and 42 in J3, most for the full 90.
Only 2 clubs listed in his profile, from 2013 to 2016...joined both on free transfer.


Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on September 09, 2016, 09:43:50 AM
He's a right back, so JA looks to be trying to cover the gap left by Polenz. I was impressed by him in the Strikers v City game. Went forward a lot, and harassed the City defensive flanks...and was solid in defence too.
21 games in the JFL and 42 in J3, most for the full 90.
Only 2 clubs listed in his profile, from 2013 to 2016...joined both on free transfer.

Im pretty sure he played left back against city, and looked pretty tidy. Had a big motor and was up and down the wing all night.  From memory his crossing was not great though. Also hard to tell his actual quality as he was fully fit playing the end of his season against a club in their early stages of preseason.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on September 09, 2016, 11:25:45 AM
He's a right back, so JA looks to be trying to cover the gap left by Polenz. I was impressed by him in the Strikers v City game. Went forward a lot, and harassed the City defensive flanks...and was solid in defence too.
21 games in the JFL and 42 in J3, most for the full 90.
Only 2 clubs listed in his profile, from 2013 to 2016...joined both on free transfer.

Im pretty sure he played left back against city, and looked pretty tidy. Had a big motor and was up and down the wing all night.  From memory his crossing was not great though. Also hard to tell his actual quality as he was fully fit playing the end of his season against a club in their early stages of preseason.
Yep. You're right. Played left back. I Just watched the game again. Lots of pace. Got forward a lot, but never seemed out of position in defence. Looks a good prospect.
It was a pin-point Omori free kick, from the right that set up the Strikers goal. Maybe the set piece specialist we're lacking as well....?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: David Gregory on September 09, 2016, 12:08:12 PM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.



Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: LiverROAR on September 09, 2016, 02:34:33 PM

We have a couple more now. One has arrived via ross Aloisi and his friend, the other from craig moore's management.
Neither are upto it but good luck if you can get the gig.

Can you name these 2 players? I presume Brett Holman isn't one of them given your "great signing" comment.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 09, 2016, 03:21:31 PM
He's a right back, so JA looks to be trying to cover the gap left by Polenz. I was impressed by him in the Strikers v City game. Went forward a lot, and harassed the City defensive flanks...and was solid in defence too.
21 games in the JFL and 42 in J3, most for the full 90.
Only 2 clubs listed in his profile, from 2013 to 2016...joined both on free transfer.


Im pretty sure he played left back against city, and looked pretty tidy. Had a big motor and was up and down the wing all night.  From memory his crossing was not great though. Also hard to tell his actual quality as he was fully fit playing the end of his season against a club in their early stages of preseason.

Yep. You're right. Played left back. I Just watched the game again. Lots of pace. Got forward a lot, but never seemed out of position in defence. Looks a good prospect.
It was a pin-point Omori free kick, from the right that set up the Strikers goal. Maybe the set piece specialist we're lacking as well....?

I have just had a look at the Fox footage. Ignore the bit post the Strikers goal.
http://www.theffacup.com.au/matchcentre/Brisbane-Strikers-v-Melbourne-City-FC/883886 (http://www.theffacup.com.au/matchcentre/Brisbane-Strikers-v-Melbourne-City-FC/883886)
It is a great free kick with the left foot. Although poor defending from a team in its off season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: TenaciousAC on September 09, 2016, 07:01:13 PM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.

DG,

Miron wanted to know who you could recommend. Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

When you mention someone you don't like, trust me, the forum hears you loud & clear. So, which players catch your eye as the sort of players the club should aim to bring in ?

You said we were naive for pumping the tyres of Brady. Well..... who are you advocating for ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: suspectandy on September 10, 2016, 08:07:10 AM

We have a couple more now. One has arrived via ross Aloisi and his friend, the other from craig moore's management.
Neither are upto it but good luck if you can get the gig.

Can you name these 2 players? I presume Brett Holman isn't one of them given your "great signing" comment.
I'd like to know which 2 players you're talking about too, or is it a secret?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: David Gregory on September 10, 2016, 08:15:06 AM

We have a couple more now. One has arrived via ross Aloisi and his friend, the other from craig moore's management.
Neither are upto it but good luck if you can get the gig.

Can you name these 2 players? I presume Brett Holman isn't one of them given your "great signing" comment.
I'd like to know which 2 players you're talking about too, or is it a secret?

Haha
There is enough info in there to work it out.
Plus Holman is a good signing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: David Gregory on September 10, 2016, 08:23:03 AM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.

DG,

Miron wanted to know who you could recommend. Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

When you mention someone you don't like, trust me, the forum hears you loud & clear. So, which players catch your eye as the sort of players the club should aim to bring in ?

You said we were naive for pumping the tyres of Brady. Well..... who are you advocating for ?

Good try, my comments are free, my advice is expensive.
I advocated Georgevski a few seasons back, when he was free. He was actually offerred to Mulvey before he signed for melbourne but mulvey said he never heard off him. Probably at that time magic mike was more interested in following the donkees at doomben than checking out players who had played champions league.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on September 10, 2016, 08:37:09 AM

We have a couple more now. One has arrived via ross Aloisi and his friend, the other from craig moore's management.
Neither are upto it but good luck if you can get the gig.

Can you name these 2 players? I presume Brett Holman isn't one of them given your "great signing" comment.
I'd like to know which 2 players you're talking about too, or is it a secret?

Haha
There is enough info in there to work it out.
Plus Holman is a good signing.

Shannon Brady is very much on the outer. I've seen a couple of training sessions and it's very obvious.

Time will tell weather Holman is a game breaker or not. I'm not a huge fan of Holman. I'm willing to see how he performs in the league.
I'm not sure who DG's 2 players are but my focus is on Pepper & Joey K.

The Roar have had a very poor pre season. Can JA turn it around with the players he has? Well IMO has does not have enough depth in the team to really pressure the starting 11. He's building a good future at the club with some good youth players coming through, however that's years away.


Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 10, 2016, 09:46:45 AM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.





well "Champ" we are not all blessed with your foresight ,intimate insight into all things Roar and football knowledge, so perhaps you could name names for those duller ones of us ......
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on September 10, 2016, 10:03:50 AM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.





well "Champ" we are not all blessed with your foresight ,intimate insight into all things Roar and football knowledge, so perhaps you could name names for those duller ones of us ......
Don't worry Miron....we'll find out at the end of the season when we get the customary DG "I told you so"
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 10, 2016, 10:09:02 AM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.





well "Champ" we are not all blessed with your foresight ,intimate insight into all things Roar and football knowledge, so perhaps you could name names for those duller ones of us ......
Don't worry Miron....we'll find out at the end of the season when we get the customary DG "I told you so"
Ha ! Why is it that when I hear the word "Champ" in a sentence I then think the word "insecure" ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: LiverROAR on September 10, 2016, 11:37:28 AM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.

DG,

Miron wanted to know who you could recommend. Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

When you mention someone you don't like, trust me, the forum hears you loud & clear. So, which players catch your eye as the sort of players the club should aim to bring in ?

You said we were naive for pumping the tyres of Brady. Well..... who are you advocating for ?

Good try, my comments are free, my advice is expensive.
I advocated Georgevski a few seasons back, when he was free. He was actually offerred to Mulvey before he signed for melbourne but mulvey said he never heard off him. Probably at that time magic mike was more interested in following the donkees at doomben than checking out players who had played champions league.
I was keen on Georgievski too back then. Not any more. Had a very mixed season last year. Was on the outer with Muscat in the middle of the season and got brought back late (not sure why). He is a liability defensively and has to be a moral for a straight red at some point this season. Can't stay on his feet when tackling and picked up 10 yellow cards from 19 starts + 4 subs with no goals to compensate for his defensive frailties. He's not getting any younger so I suspect the "desperation" in his tackling style will only worsen as his pace drops off.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on September 10, 2016, 02:16:43 PM
It would appear DG that you are the only person to know who is a good pick up and who isn't ...Can you give JA a call ? He could use a man with your foresight .

Hey champ.
I gave you two players that would not cut it before the season started.
One did not play at all and the other cost us 3 losses in a row and a grand final birth.
Where is the problem.
I just gave you another two for this season. See how we go.

DG,

Miron wanted to know who you could recommend. Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

When you mention someone you don't like, trust me, the forum hears you loud & clear. So, which players catch your eye as the sort of players the club should aim to bring in ?

You said we were naive for pumping the tyres of Brady. Well..... who are you advocating for ?

Good try, my comments are free, my advice is expensive.
I advocated Georgevski a few seasons back, when he was free. He was actually offerred to Mulvey before he signed for melbourne but mulvey said he never heard off him. Probably at that time magic mike was more interested in following the donkees at doomben than checking out players who had played champions league.
I was keen on Georgievski too back then. Not any more. Had a very mixed season last year. Was on the outer with Muscat in the middle of the season and got brought back late (not sure why). He is a liability defensively and has to be a moral for a straight red at some point this season. Can't stay on his feet when tackling and picked up 10 yellow cards from 19 starts + 4 subs with no goals to compensate for his defensive frailties. He's not getting any younger so I suspect the "desperation" in his tackling style will only worsen as his pace drops off.

He reminds me a lot of Danny Tiatto.  Red card just waiting to happen.  Should have had more.  He's a shocker for a two footed studs up tackle.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 13, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
Any comments on the Konstandopoulos deal?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 13, 2016, 07:56:38 PM
Any comments on the Konstandopoulos deal?

I haven't personally seen him play but I guess it's a good thing that we're using up the "Scholarship" slots.

Most importantly he doesn't take up a spot on the senior squad.

Quote
Brisbane Roar Football Director Craig Moore says it?s a terrific achievement for Konstandopoulos and says the challenge is for him to continue his development and strive for first-team game time.

?We have decided to take the new scholarship initiative from FFA for Nathan,? Moore said.

?He has worked incredibly hard and it allows us to expand on our eligible players for the Hyundai A-League. He does however, sit outside our playing roster.

?Nathan's challenge now is to push every day and work towards first team action.?

The Hyundai A-League Scholarship program allows clubs to sign up to six players from its Foxtel National Youth League roster on senior contracts.

[url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-secure-young-midfielder-on-scholarship/1txsghdbb3slp1swfewfdpc24m[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-secure-young-midfielder-on-scholarship/1txsghdbb3slp1swfewfdpc24m[/url])
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: melv on September 14, 2016, 08:36:32 AM
Interestingly, I remember Konstandopoulos being one of the players Josep Gombau said he was trying to bring to New York to be a part of David Villa's academy. Not sure what happened there (or with Gombau and that academy...) but it suggests he must have some talent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on September 14, 2016, 08:43:13 AM
I also haven't seen him play, but hey, he is Greek....say no more.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Sandman on September 14, 2016, 01:15:12 PM
He came on in the FFA Cup game and I thought we played a lot better with him on the park.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 15, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 13th September 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
------


Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Matt McKay
13. Luke DeVere
12. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
11. Brett Holman
10. Nicholas D'Agostino
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
30/05/2015 - Luke Brattan - Released.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: JiMMM on September 15, 2016, 12:39:36 PM
so out of that list who are out of contract this year

Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT - probably resign
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown) - don't know but probably let go
21. Joey Katebian - unknown
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - unknown
19. Jacob Pepper - unknown but probably let go
18. Jade North - retire or resign
17. Dimitri Petratos - overseas or resign
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - retire or resign
15. Michael Theo - let go
14. Matt McKay - resign
13. Luke DeVere - resign subjct to recovery
12. Jamie Maclaren - overseas or resign

I don't think we are going to have a lot of say in what happens with this group it will depend on what they want to do.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 15, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
I'm thinking:

Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT - probably resign - AGREED
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown) - don't know but probably let go - MOST LIKELY STAY ON
21. Joey Katebian - unknown - MOST LIKELY STAY ON
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - unknown - AGREED
19. Jacob Pepper - MOST LIKELY STAY ON
18. Jade North - retire or resign - RETIRE
17. Dimitri Petratos - overseas or resign - OVERSEAS OR MOVES ON
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - retire or resign - RETIRE
15. Michael Theo - let go - MOVE ON OR RETIRE
14. Matt McKay - resign - AGREED
13. Luke DeVere - resign subjct to recovery - RE-SIGN
12. Jamie Maclaren - overseas or resign - OVERSEAS
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on October 11, 2016, 04:38:06 PM
*UPDATED* (Added Manuel Arana Rodriguez)

Here's the list as of today 11th October 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
------


Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Matt McKay
13. Luke DeVere
12. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
11. Brett Holman
10. Nicholas D'Agostino
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
30/05/2015 - Luke Brattan - Released.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on December 06, 2016, 09:00:30 AM
*UPDATED WITH MATT MCKAY CONTRACT EXTENSION*

Here's the list as of today 6th December 2016

Uncontracted, rumoured signings etc:
------


Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Luke DeVere
13. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
12. Matt McKay
11. Brett Holman
10. Nicholas D'Agostino
9. Connor O'Toole
8. Kye Rowles
7. Corey Brown
6. Jamie Young
5. Jack Hingert
4. Brandon Borrello
3. Thomas Oar
2. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
1. Shannon Brady

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
30/05/2015 - Luke Brattan - Released.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on December 06, 2016, 09:02:59 AM
Looking at the above list there's a fair few that the club would want to nail down asap:

22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - UNCONVINCED
21. Joey Katebian - UNCONVINCED
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - MUST
19. Jacob Pepper - NO NEED
18. Jade North - MAYBE
17. Dimitri Petratos - MUST
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - MAYBE
15. Michael Theo - MAYBE
14. Luke DeVere - MUST
13. Jamie Maclaren - MUST
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: FireBlades19 on December 06, 2016, 12:54:53 PM
Looking at the above list there's a fair few that the club would want to nail down asap:

22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - UNCONVINCED
21. Joey Katebian - UNCONVINCED
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - MUST
19. Jacob Pepper - NO NEED
18. Jade North - MAYBE
17. Dimitri Petratos - MUST
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - MAYBE
15. Michael Theo - MAYBE
14. Luke DeVere - MUST
13. Jamie Maclaren - MUST

im sure the club and John will be working towards resigning who we need
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on December 07, 2016, 08:12:52 AM
Looks increasingly likely we'll lose McClaren.  Just a hunch - JA knew this was on the cards and Katebian has been signed as a development player.  If McClaren does leave, expect Katebian to see increased game time towards the end of the season.

Thomas really must retire.  Can't see why we would rehire an ordinary going on 33 year old Spanish winger.

North and McKay are surely going into their last seasons next year.   McKay is losing his pace and workrate.  Would like to see more of our youth team guys getting first team minutes.  For the life of me I can't understand why one of the younger guys isn't getting exposure ahead of Pepper.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on December 07, 2016, 11:27:18 AM
From Fox Sports:

"BRISBANE ROAR

Problem: Age

Options: Brisbane?s starting line-up against Melbourne City contained Michael Theo (35), Jade North (34), Thomas Kristensen (33), Thomas Broich (35) and Matt McKay (33). All of these players will have a birthday before the end of the season, while 32-year-olds Manuel Arana (bench) and Brett Holman (knee injury, five weeks) have been squad regulars. That means, if you include Holman in the ?best XI?, seven of Roar?s starting eleven will be past their prime.

Solution: Brisbane need to rejuvenate the squad with both youngsters and players in their mid-20s who have years to go at A-League level. Links to Robbie Keane (36) were never going to be the answer."

This has been an increasing problem for 3 seasons now.  Aloisi needed to rejuvenate at the end of last season and he didn't.  This is why we are drawing 1-1 instead of winning, and it is why I believe we will fall further and further from the front as the season wears on.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.  I don't rate the Aloisis, and this one of the reasons.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on December 07, 2016, 12:16:06 PM
From Fox Sports:

"BRISBANE ROAR

Problem: Age

Options: Brisbane?s starting line-up against Melbourne City contained Michael Theo (35), Jade North (34), Thomas Kristensen (33), Thomas Broich (35) and Matt McKay (33). All of these players will have a birthday before the end of the season, while 32-year-olds Manuel Arana (bench) and Brett Holman (knee injury, five weeks) have been squad regulars. That means, if you include Holman in the ?best XI?, seven of Roar?s starting eleven will be past their prime.

Solution: Brisbane need to rejuvenate the squad with both youngsters and players in their mid-20s who have years to go at A-League level. Links to Robbie Keane (36) were never going to be the answer."

This has been an increasing problem for 3 seasons now.  Aloisi needed to rejuvenate at the end of last season and he didn't.  This is why we are drawing 1-1 instead of winning, and it is why I believe we will fall further and further from the front as the season wears on.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.  I don't rate the Aloisis, and this one of the reasons.

They have brought in:

Younger players: Pepper (24), Maclaren (23), Oar (25), Katebian (21), Caletti (18), Rowles (18), O'Toole (19).

VS

Older players: Corona (34 and voted our player of the season), Arana (32), Kristensen (33 and shaping up to be one of our best this season).

I personally don't think they have done too badly. Sure, our squad is older, but how much opportunity have they really had to "rejuvinate" the whole squad?

I took the time to go and look back at the player contracts thread from around the time Aloisi came in to see who he could have let go and replaced. The only older player he could really get rid of at the end of last season would have been North (who I think has been pretty good this year, despite his dive).

It's also a little bit humorous that you have posted, quoting the contracted players list and said "In other words, Aloisi has to tread water for next season, and then can do proper rebuild in 2017-18."
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on December 07, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
From Fox Sports:

"BRISBANE ROAR

Problem: Age

Options: Brisbane?s starting line-up against Melbourne City contained Michael Theo (35), Jade North (34), Thomas Kristensen (33), Thomas Broich (35) and Matt McKay (33). All of these players will have a birthday before the end of the season, while 32-year-olds Manuel Arana (bench) and Brett Holman (knee injury, five weeks) have been squad regulars. That means, if you include Holman in the ?best XI?, seven of Roar?s starting eleven will be past their prime.

Solution: Brisbane need to rejuvenate the squad with both youngsters and players in their mid-20s who have years to go at A-League level. Links to Robbie Keane (36) were never going to be the answer."

This has been an increasing problem for 3 seasons now.  Aloisi needed to rejuvenate at the end of last season and he didn't.  This is why we are drawing 1-1 instead of winning, and it is why I believe we will fall further and further from the front as the season wears on.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.  I don't rate the Aloisis, and this one of the reasons.

They have brought in:

Younger players: Pepper (24), Maclaren (23), Oar (25), Katebian (21), Caletti (18), Rowles (18), O'Toole (19).

VS

Older players: Corona (34 and voted our player of the season), Arana (32), Kristensen (33 and shaping up to be one of our best this season).

I personally don't think they have done too badly. Sure, our squad is older, but how much opportunity have they really had to "rejuvinate" the whole squad?

I took the time to go and look back at the player contracts thread from around the time Aloisi came in to see who he could have let go and replaced. The only older player he could really get rid of at the end of last season would have been North (who I think has been pretty good this year, despite his dive).

It's also a little bit humorous that you have posted, quoting the contracted players list and said "In other words, Aloisi has to tread water for next season, and then can do proper rebuild in 2017-18."

Quite correct to remind me that JA has had very little freedom of action to the end of this season.

I do observe, however, that the younger players he brought in were too young to alleviate the age issue in the first team bar one, Oar.  Pepper was a mistake.  He's the right age, but not the right player.  We needed players who would seriously challenge for a first team place.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on December 07, 2016, 12:30:53 PM
Also interesting, listening to Marco's podcast with Ross Aloisi. They were discussing the Henrique situation and Ross said they wanted to sign him when he came back from Malaysia, however Cobb had put a stop on all signings so they couldn't do it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on December 07, 2016, 12:50:56 PM
From Fox Sports:

"BRISBANE ROAR

Problem: Age

Options: Brisbane?s starting line-up against Melbourne City contained Michael Theo (35), Jade North (34), Thomas Kristensen (33), Thomas Broich (35) and Matt McKay (33). All of these players will have a birthday before the end of the season, while 32-year-olds Manuel Arana (bench) and Brett Holman (knee injury, five weeks) have been squad regulars. That means, if you include Holman in the ?best XI?, seven of Roar?s starting eleven will be past their prime.

Solution: Brisbane need to rejuvenate the squad with both youngsters and players in their mid-20s who have years to go at A-League level. Links to Robbie Keane (36) were never going to be the answer."

This has been an increasing problem for 3 seasons now.  Aloisi needed to rejuvenate at the end of last season and he didn't.  This is why we are drawing 1-1 instead of winning, and it is why I believe we will fall further and further from the front as the season wears on.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.  I don't rate the Aloisis, and this one of the reasons.

They have brought in:

Younger players: Pepper (24), Maclaren (23), Oar (25), Katebian (21), Caletti (18), Rowles (18), O'Toole (19).

VS

Older players: Corona (34 and voted our player of the season), Arana (32), Kristensen (33 and shaping up to be one of our best this season).

I personally don't think they have done too badly. Sure, our squad is older, but how much opportunity have they really had to "rejuvinate" the whole squad?

I took the time to go and look back at the player contracts thread from around the time Aloisi came in to see who he could have let go and replaced. The only older player he could really get rid of at the end of last season would have been North (who I think has been pretty good this year, despite his dive).

It's also a little bit humorous that you have posted, quoting the contracted players list and said "In other words, Aloisi has to tread water for next season, and then can do proper rebuild in 2017-18."

Quite correct to remind me that JA has had very little freedom of action to the end of this season.

I do observe, however, that the younger players he brought in were too young to alleviate the age issue in the first team bar one, Oar.  Pepper was a mistake.  He's the right age, but not the right player.  We needed players who would seriously challenge for a first team place.

But to be frank we let go of young players we had groomed through the NYL ranks. Clut was already there and handy, Litfin could be groomed and Jackson was also a young player we already had.  We pushed them out the door when we could be blooding them alongside the more experienced players. In my opinion we brought in players who weren't that neccesarily better than those we had or better than where we could develop the younger players to. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 07, 2016, 01:01:21 PM
Cobb was such a disaster it feels like a bad dream now.

We have youth in the ranks we just need to play them. I've always Neen dissapointed with our usage of subs. I would be a lot more aggressive ... if you've done well enough to make the bench you should be rewarded with 10mins per game. I don't think we are going to win the championship this year. ..so why not set up to win the next.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on December 07, 2016, 01:22:44 PM
It's all well and good to state that he we need to get youngsters but yeah in reality the very good ones don't come cheap.

Also do we have a few signed in Konstandopoulos, Caletti, Katebian, D'Agostino, O'Toole, Rowles and Brady.

It is those boys job to train as hard as they can and break into the top side not simply JA dumping an experienced player for youth if they're not up to scratch.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 07, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
I don't think you necessary have to dump a player to give youth a chance. You just have to phase them in incrementally each week.  Katebian and Konsta deserve minutes imo 

If you don't play them,  they won't bridge the gap from nyl / npl to hal. I've seen very few players graduate from our youth teams over the years to become first team regulars. Donachie, Brattan, Borello, Brown are the only players I can think of. That is over like 6 seasons since ive paid attention. Meanwhile...we sold genuine talent, Geria being a key loss but also Ingham has a lot of potential. Losing Donachie was also a huge indicator of the mess the club is in. Brattan situation is of course a bit different

One of my favourite things as a fan is seeing local talent develop. We have a lot of potential to do that and we should find more ways to make it happen faster

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on December 07, 2016, 04:00:58 PM
I don't think you necessary have to dump a player to give youth a chance. You just have to phase them in incrementally each week.  Katebian and Konsta deserve minutes imo 

If you don't play them,  they won't bridge the gap from nyl / npl to hal. I've seen very few players graduate from our youth teams over the years to become first team regulars. Donachie, Brattan, Borello, Brown are the only players I can think of. That is over like 6 seasons since ive paid attention. Meanwhile...we sold genuine talent, Geria being a key loss but also Ingham has a lot of potential. Losing Donachie was also a huge indicator of the mess the club is in. Brattan situation is of course a bit different

One of my favourite things as a fan is seeing local talent develop. We have a lot of potential to do that and we should find more ways to make it happen faster


Forgot about Geria and Ingham - but in terms of quality youth - as recently as May last year the NYL side came equal first in the FULL NYL Comp. Losing the competition on a single goal difference - one less goal scored, so they couldn't have been too bad a youth side.

BTW Jmac was in the RG Yth side

Of that side I think there are only 2 players left at the club - 18 months later

 Brisbane Roar Youth: 3 Cameron CRESTANI, 5 Matthew SCHMIDT, 6 Luke PAVLOU (7 Benjamin LITFIN 46?), 10 Devante CLUT, 12 Abrahim YANGO (11 Samual SIBATUARA 85?), 14 George LAMBADORIDIS, 17 Daniel BOWLES, 18 Lachlan JACKSON, 19 Shelford DAIS, 20 Kofi DANNING (16 Nicholas D?AGOSTINO 69?) - See more at: http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#sthash.vvippopM.dpuf (http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#sthash.vvippopM.dpuf)
Read more at http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#xS04JIoJ45GjW6mt.99 (http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#xS04JIoJ45GjW6mt.99)

although it seems Perth only kept 3 of their players on the day


Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on December 08, 2016, 11:30:33 AM
I don't think you necessary have to dump a player to give youth a chance. You just have to phase them in incrementally each week.  Katebian and Konsta deserve minutes imo 

If you don't play them,  they won't bridge the gap from nyl / npl to hal. I've seen very few players graduate from our youth teams over the years to become first team regulars. Donachie, Brattan, Borello, Brown are the only players I can think of. That is over like 6 seasons since ive paid attention. Meanwhile...we sold genuine talent, Geria being a key loss but also Ingham has a lot of potential. Losing Donachie was also a huge indicator of the mess the club is in. Brattan situation is of course a bit different

One of my favourite things as a fan is seeing local talent develop. We have a lot of potential to do that and we should find more ways to make it happen faster


Forgot about Geria and Ingham - but in terms of quality youth - as recently as May last year the NYL side came equal first in the FULL NYL Comp. Losing the competition on a single goal difference - one less goal scored, so they couldn't have been too bad a youth side.

BTW Jmac was in the RG Yth side

Of that side I think there are only 2 players left at the club - 18 months later

 Brisbane Roar Youth: 3 Cameron CRESTANI, 5 Matthew SCHMIDT, 6 Luke PAVLOU (7 Benjamin LITFIN 46?), 10 Devante CLUT, 12 Abrahim YANGO (11 Samual SIBATUARA 85?), 14 George LAMBADORIDIS, 17 Daniel BOWLES, 18 Lachlan JACKSON, 19 Shelford DAIS, 20 Kofi DANNING (16 Nicholas D?AGOSTINO 69?) - See more at: [url]http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#sthash.vvippopM.dpuf[/url] ([url]http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#sthash.vvippopM.dpuf[/url])
Read more at [url]http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#xS04JIoJ45GjW6mt.99[/url] ([url]http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/heartbreak-for-glory-youngsters/zhzgw31srvkj1d7ercjb0nwqb#xS04JIoJ45GjW6mt.99[/url])

although it seems Perth only kept 3 of their players on the day





What happened to Yango? I thought he looked very promising in his cameos for the first team.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 08, 2016, 11:55:12 AM
Was wondering the same thing. .... nyl players seem to just dissappear. .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 08, 2016, 12:00:09 PM
Seems like at this stage, the nyl doesn't prepare players for the hal. That they instead must go from the nyl and prove themselves in the npl before being close to hal ready. Seems the wrong way around.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on December 08, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
Seems like at this stage, the nyl doesn't prepare players for the hal. That they instead must go from the nyl and prove themselves in the npl before being close to hal ready. Seems the wrong way around.

Yeah, the same thought has occurred to me.  Given the number of very good youth teams we have produced, you would think that more players should have come through or at least be pushing for a place.  The idea that Pepper, who has been let go by two other A League clubs, is on our bench and starting to cover injuries rather makes a mockery of our many years of youth team development.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 08, 2016, 01:12:59 PM
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too.. doesn't make sense
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on December 08, 2016, 01:23:32 PM
Yango played for Avondale FC in the Victorian NPL for the 2016 season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on December 08, 2016, 03:18:09 PM
Our youth players don't receive enough opportunities at AL level.
Coaches are results driven and the aloisi brothers don't want to lose and have the perception that playing youth players will lose them games. I've been to a few training sessions and the young players mentioned train very hard.

Katabian and daggers are proven goal scorers and I think only katabian has received about 10 minutes this year-even when Macca was away with national team

We all get angry when we lose good young talent but in all honesty, can we blame them????

I can see us losing maybe 4 or 5 of our known youth players at season end due to the fact that they want AL experience

If they were getting 15-20 mins per game, by seasons end they would have enough experience to be considered regulars

Sadly, I can't see that happening

i see on someone's twitter page that daggers has been voted NPL youth player of the year - 2nd year in a row - NOT ON CLUB TWITTER

Can't see us hanging on to the likes of him and others as they will be keen to get AL experience

I see katabian and o'toole included in squad v Adelaide

I'll be very surprised if either of them are on the bench
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 08, 2016, 03:34:16 PM
Yeah. The beauty about forwards is subbing them on won't lose you a game though. Konsta playing DM is a riskier mobe on the other hand.  So given we are rarely chasing a game surely the risk / reward of giving 10 minutes to katebian or daggers per game is worth doing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on December 08, 2016, 05:50:04 PM
If I recall daggers was on the bench v newcastle and we made a substitution at 3-0 down
We put on a defender - Bowles I think.

That shows me that JA & co don't have faith in the youngsters

And no there wasn't any injured defenders at that time
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 09, 2016, 10:09:19 PM
Exactly. ...what a useless substitution.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on December 11, 2016, 09:04:31 AM
Another round of good shifts by ex Roar Youth. Donks, Clut, Geria, Ingham all putting in good performances so far this weekend.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on December 12, 2016, 12:04:51 PM
It was interesting to note that the two Youth players "PROMOTED" to the senior team were again not even looked at for the bench this week.
Don't know why there is a big fuss that they are promoted as they are never looked at. Katabian played with youth on Saturday and O'Toole was 17th man

Surely a young player could have been used on Sunday for 15 minutes towards the end

Sad state of affairs but won't change whilst we are winning. My concern is if the aloisi boys leave, we are going to have a big chasm between experienced older players and very green youth players (which is occurring now)
It appears that they really aren't planning for long term
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on December 12, 2016, 12:40:55 PM
It was interesting to note that the two Youth players "PROMOTED" to the senior team were again not even looked at for the bench this week.
Don't know why there is a big fuss that they are promoted as they are never looked at. Katabian played with youth on Saturday and O'Toole was 17th man

Surely a young player could have been used on Sunday for 15 minutes towards the end

Sad state of affairs but won't change whilst we are winning. My concern is if the aloisi boys leave, we are going to have a big chasm between experienced older players and very green youth players (which is occurring now)
It appears that they really aren't planning for long term
With hindsight, when you are 4-0 up, then it is a good time to blood some youngsters, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I am not sure it is fair to single out JA as anti youth. Earlier on, pre season,  I was thinking he was going to rely too heavily on youth.
I haven't really checked in depth, but don't recall Ange being any different. Brattan was a bit part player for some time whilst Eric had the number six role, and had to wait until Eric left I recall.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
JA has supported young Brown when most people (myself included) were calling for new blood at left back.
JA really gave Maclaren a go when Perth went for the more experienced Irishman.
Borrello is getting a go under JA. Only 21
Konstandopoulos has made a debut in the FFA cup. Aged 20
I am pretty certain that Katebian also has had one or two appearances already.
Also, JA has by no means the highest number of visa players in the comp.
I reckon with injuries and suspensions and also a very busy fixture list coming up, the younger guys are going to get a go. For sure.
But whilst there is experience available, then why not go for it.
The message for Katebian and O'Toole is surely that they are on JA's radar.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on December 12, 2016, 01:31:43 PM
It was interesting to note that the two Youth players "PROMOTED" to the senior team were again not even looked at for the bench this week.
Don't know why there is a big fuss that they are promoted as they are never looked at. Katabian played with youth on Saturday and O'Toole was 17th man

Surely a young player could have been used on Sunday for 15 minutes towards the end

Sad state of affairs but won't change whilst we are winning. My concern is if the aloisi boys leave, we are going to have a big chasm between experienced older players and very green youth players (which is occurring now)
It appears that they really aren't planning for long term
With hindsight, when you are 4-0 up, then it is a good time to blood some youngsters, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I am not sure it is fair to single out JA as anti youth. Earlier on, pre season,  I was thinking he was going to rely too heavily on youth.
I haven't really checked in depth, but don't recall Ange being any different. Brattan was a bit part player for some time whilst Eric had the number six role, and had to wait until Eric left I recall.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
JA has supported young Brown when most people (myself included) were calling for new blood at left back.
JA really gave Maclaren a go when Perth went for the more experienced Irishman.
Borrello is getting a go under JA. Only 21
Konstandopoulos has made a debut in the FFA cup. Aged 20
I am pretty certain that Katebian also has had one or two appearances already.
Also, JA has by no means the highest number of visa players in the comp.
I reckon with injuries and suspensions and also a very busy fixture list coming up, the younger guys are going to get a go. For sure.
But whilst there is experience available, then why not go for it.
The message for Katebian and O'Toole is surely that they are on JA's radar.

Goof summation. 3 nill up and there is no reason not to rest players and bring on youth. We all know from our own experiences that to learn you need consistent exposure. A few minutes here and there will do nothing to develop these players.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on December 12, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
I concur with Chico Raul as well.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on December 12, 2016, 02:55:52 PM
One thing is for sure - McClaren is not going to get any more NT call ups the way he is playing.  Katebian is going to have limited opps.

As for his agent - get real, Paddy. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 06, 2017, 10:16:14 AM
Rumor from Tom Smithies from The Daily Telegraph:

Quote
OAR COULD SET SAIL

HOW long Tommy Oar remains at Brisbane as one of the club?s marquees is a matter of some debate within the dressing room, where his teammates believe Oar has a buyout clause in his contract that a Chinese team is prepared to meet.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/former-socceroos-star-scott-mcdonald-set-for-aleague-homecoming/news-story/2fdad72ddd5a39c245ec99ad1b99a21e (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/former-socceroos-star-scott-mcdonald-set-for-aleague-homecoming/news-story/2fdad72ddd5a39c245ec99ad1b99a21e)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: lucci on January 06, 2017, 10:59:34 AM
Rumor from Tom Smithies from The Daily Telegraph:

Quote
OAR COULD SET SAIL

HOW long Tommy Oar remains at Brisbane as one of the club?s marquees is a matter of some debate within the dressing room, where his teammates believe Oar has a buyout clause in his contract that a Chinese team is prepared to meet.

[url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/former-socceroos-star-scott-mcdonald-set-for-aleague-homecoming/news-story/2fdad72ddd5a39c245ec99ad1b99a21e[/url] ([url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/former-socceroos-star-scott-mcdonald-set-for-aleague-homecoming/news-story/2fdad72ddd5a39c245ec99ad1b99a21e[/url])


I'm totally okay with this

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on January 06, 2017, 11:49:32 AM
Rumor from Tom Smithies from The Daily Telegraph:

Quote
OAR COULD SET SAIL

HOW long Tommy Oar remains at Brisbane as one of the club?s marquees is a matter of some debate within the dressing room, where his teammates believe Oar has a buyout clause in his contract that a Chinese team is prepared to meet.

[url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/former-socceroos-star-scott-mcdonald-set-for-aleague-homecoming/news-story/2fdad72ddd5a39c245ec99ad1b99a21e[/url] ([url]http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/former-socceroos-star-scott-mcdonald-set-for-aleague-homecoming/news-story/2fdad72ddd5a39c245ec99ad1b99a21e[/url])


I'm totally okay with this

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


I don't mind cashing in on Oar if someone meets the buy out clause,

I was excited when we signed him, but he doesn't look happy, nor is playing well enough to justify to keep for his supposed wage.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on January 06, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
Agreed. Oar isn't providing what a marquee should provide. I can't see him doing any better than he is doing currently, so if we can onload him and try again next season for another marquee, I'd take it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 06, 2017, 12:56:51 PM
*BUMP*

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Luke DeVere
13. Jamie Maclaren
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on January 06, 2017, 01:17:16 PM
*BUMP*

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Luke DeVere
13. Jamie Maclaren

What I would like to see/think will happen -

22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - Leave
21. Joey Katebian - Probably leave to find playing time
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - Hopefully stay
19. Jacob Pepper - Leave
18. Jade North - Leave/retire
17. Dimitri Petratos - Probably leave if Holman continues getting minutes ahead of him
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - Retire/Coaching
15. Michael Theo - Leave (has said he isn't retiring)
14. Luke DeVere - Hopefully stay
13. Jamie Maclaren - Will probably end up leaving if he hasn't signed anything by now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on January 06, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
*BUMP*

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Luke DeVere
13. Jamie Maclaren

What I would like to see/think will happen -

22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - Leave
21. Joey Katebian - Probably leave to find playing time
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - Hopefully stay
19. Jacob Pepper - Leave
18. Jade North - Leave/retire
17. Dimitri Petratos - Probably leave if Holman continues getting minutes ahead of him
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - Retire/Coaching
15. Michael Theo - Leave (has said he isn't retiring)
14. Luke DeVere - Hopefully stay
13. Jamie Maclaren - Will probably end up leaving if he hasn't signed anything by now.

So do you want me to polish my boots?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on January 06, 2017, 01:52:09 PM
*BUMP*

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Luke DeVere
13. Jamie Maclaren

What I would like to see/think will happen -

22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - Leave
21. Joey Katebian - Probably leave to find playing time
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - Hopefully stay
19. Jacob Pepper - Leave
18. Jade North - Leave/retire
17. Dimitri Petratos - Probably leave if Holman continues getting minutes ahead of him
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - Retire/Coaching
15. Michael Theo - Leave (has said he isn't retiring)
14. Luke DeVere - Hopefully stay
13. Jamie Maclaren - Will probably end up leaving if he hasn't signed anything by now.

So do you want me to polish my boots?

If you could mate, that would be good.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on January 06, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
*BUMP*

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
21. Joey Katebian
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Dimitri Petratos
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
15. Michael Theo
14. Luke DeVere
13. Jamie Maclaren


What I would like to see/think will happen -

22. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - Leave
21. Joey Katebian - Probably leave to find playing time
20. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn) - Hopefully stay
19. Jacob Pepper - Leave
18. Jade North - Leave/retire
17. Dimitri Petratos - Probably leave if Holman continues getting minutes ahead of him
16. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - Retire/Coaching
15. Michael Theo - Leave (has said he isn't retiring)
14. Luke DeVere - Hopefully stay
13. Jamie Maclaren - Will probably end up leaving if he hasn't signed anything by now.


So do you want me to polish my boots?


If you could mate, that would be good.

Article published today states that Jade North is looking to continue.
Interestingly Jack, Theo, TK and Luke De Vere all made the December team of the month. Three of which have contracts under review
http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/hyundai-a-league-team-of-the-month-dec-2016-3ztjzblghybw110vdol45wmzn (http://www.a-league.com.au/photo-gallery/hyundai-a-league-team-of-the-month-dec-2016-3ztjzblghybw110vdol45wmzn)
Personally, top of my wish list is a sane off season with no financial or ownership spats, during which the club can rebuild as opposed to the insanity of these past few seasons.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 06, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
I wonder if it'd be healthy for the club if a few of the "senior" boys did move on and some of the NYL boys got their chances. I mean they're going pretty well in the league and a all of them would be very hungry to get the HAL chance.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on January 06, 2017, 10:53:56 PM
I wonder if it'd be healthy for the club if a few of the "senior" boys did move on and some of the NYL boys got their chances. I mean they're going pretty well in the league and a all of them would be very hungry to get the HAL chance.

It time the youth get a chance, i'd let North go, Theo can go, Broich onto the coaching side of things, Jamie will be gone, Arana can go.

We have an old team, its time we gave the youth a chance, they are raw, but they can be developed... i'd rather watch a young guy get a chance than signing "Pepper" and other bench players.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on January 06, 2017, 11:15:25 PM
I think Broich would a terrible coach - to mild mannered and soft.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on January 07, 2017, 12:28:36 AM
I think Broich would a terrible coach - to mild mannered and soft.

Maybe so, but i don't know him personally so i don't really know, what people show on stage, can be different to off the stage.

But i think he may be able to offer something to the youth..

He is a Roar Legend, have to find some role for him.

I remember Giggs been told the same as he was quiet, not loud and mild managed.. he's did a few years as assistant manager at Man U.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on January 07, 2017, 08:28:45 AM
I think Broich would a terrible coach - to mild mannered and soft.

But does he know to from too?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on January 10, 2017, 05:44:55 PM
Broich would be better as a technical director or someone involved with youth. Rado is a similar personality ... not cut out for being a manager. In my opinion JA is, but I don't think he has the knowledge to make us champions again. I feel like he is on work experience here.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on January 10, 2017, 05:51:52 PM
I think Broich would a terrible coach - to mild mannered and soft.

But does he know to from too?

Could be.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mightyroar on January 10, 2017, 10:08:55 PM
I understand both Jmac and Oar will be leaving for Asia during this January transfer window.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on January 10, 2017, 10:33:25 PM
hmmm people feeling  Broich is too mild mannered to be a coach,didn't know you had to be the opposite of mild mannered to be a coach. Amor went OK last year. Who knows maybe Thomas is too mild mannered but we won't know until he gets a go . Stick him as youth coach and see .

So mightyroar ..why do you "understand"  Oar and Jmac are going to Asia in January ? ....inside knowledge or do you go to Daniel Bowles coffee
 shop too ?
Mind you ....not too hard to imagine as neither is good enough for anywhere else at the moment . ;)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on January 10, 2017, 11:43:24 PM
I wonder what the odds are on Brisbane winning the Wooden Spoon this season?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on January 11, 2017, 08:32:26 AM
I understand both Jmac and Oar will be leaving for Asia during this January transfer window.

Your source?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on January 11, 2017, 08:33:32 AM
I wonder what the odds are on Brisbane winning the Wooden Spoon this season?

Actually, Sep, I think Oar and Jmac leaving is a positive. It will make Aloisi shake up a dysfunctional team.  Both players have been about as functional as tits on a bull this season.

if they are leaving, of course
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 12, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
JMac is now on 27 goals from 38 games. Berisha was 26 from his first 38.

Makes you wonder what JMac could've been on had he been playing in the Berisha days?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on January 15, 2017, 07:09:06 PM
Ben Liftin released by Phoenix.
He now has had some training under Merrick and fought for a starting possie. He might add another point of pressure to Macca if we sign him. Shouldn't cost too much.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on January 15, 2017, 08:55:27 PM
Ben Liftin released by Phoenix.
He now has had some training under Merrick and fought for a starting possie. He might add another point of pressure to Macca if we sign him. Shouldn't cost too much.
I thought he was a midfielder....?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on January 15, 2017, 10:00:24 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/thomas-broich-to-delay-contract-talks-with-brisbane-roar-to-help-club-secure-its-young-stars/news-story/f0517663742a3b1f318366dba6ff503a (http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/thomas-broich-to-delay-contract-talks-with-brisbane-roar-to-help-club-secure-its-young-stars/news-story/f0517663742a3b1f318366dba6ff503a)
This is heart warming from Broich. This man is truly a legend.

?Eventually we have to sit down and talk it all through because it?s a transition phase for the club as well,? Broich said.

?We have to still be a little bit patient before we make that call.

?There?s no pressure. If at the end of the season I feel like playing one more year and they want me here for one more season, we?ll just do that.
I?m at a stage in my career where I just take it day by day ? it?s not like I?m 27 fighting for a new deal. I?m in a really comfortable place.?
?I?m very fond of the club and what we?ve created here means a lot to me,? Broich said.

?You hear me talk about the brand of football, the club we want to be, I?ve never had anything like that in football.

?It just means the world to me.?

?But there are other days when I really feel surprisingly fit and I still love my football,? he said.

?I?m hardly ever injured, so I say to myself ?why not keep playing??, but ultimately for me it?s about vision, about what we can still achieve together at this club.

?We have a really good relationship and I?ve got a lot to contribute on and off the park. I can see myself involved in the club in whatever role in the future.?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on January 16, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
A fair dinkum Roar legend for sure.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: kb55 on January 25, 2017, 08:27:08 AM
Tweet from Ray Gatt "Have heard Dimi Petratos has signed with the Jets for next season. Great signing"
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 25, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
Tweet from Ray Gatt "Have heard Dimi Petratos has signed with the Jets for next season. Great signing"
Yeah just read that too.. I'm conflicted.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on January 25, 2017, 10:11:37 AM
Tweet from Ray Gatt "Have heard Dimi Petratos has signed with the Jets for next season. Great signing"
Tweet from Ray Gatt "Have heard Dimi Petratos has signed with the Jets for next season. Great signing"
Yeah just read that too.. I'm conflicted.

Very bad news if true as I was looking for Petratos to bring to the game a lot of the elements that Broich has brought in the past.
Not quite the stand out that Thomas has been  in terms of play making but edges Thomas as a finisher.
If you compare Dimi say to Arana then Dimi is out of sight. But maybe that is not hard.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mongie on January 25, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
Not really the end of the world. He's a good player, but there are others available. Might mean we can give someone else (e.g. Konstandopoulos) a chance.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on January 25, 2017, 01:34:50 PM
Not really the end of the world. He's a good player, but there are others available. Might mean we can give someone else (e.g. Konstandopoulos) a chance.


I think Dimi has a nice set piece in him and can come up with a good goal occasionally in open play be but for me he doesn't really contribute that much. He doesn't defend well, and is very hard for other players to read in attack.
Often we simply need a ball whipped into the box for Macca but Dimi will cut in ,effectively taking Macca out of play.
Maybe with more confidence and longer game time he will mature into a good no 10 but at present, for me, he isn't there yet
We will miss his free kicks though as he has finally started to convert some .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 25, 2017, 01:52:03 PM
Not really the end of the world. He's a good player, but there are others available. Might mean we can give someone else (e.g. Konstandopoulos) a chance.


I think Dimi has a nice set piece in him and can come up with a good goal occasionally in open play be but for me he doesn't really contribute that much. He doesn't defend well, and is very hard for other players to read in attack.
Often we simply need a ball whipped into the box for Macca but Dimi will cut in ,effectively taking Macca out of play.
Maybe with more confidence and longer game time he will mature into a good no 10 but at present, for me, he isn't there yet
We will miss his free kicks though as he has finally started to convert some .
I agree with your summation Miron.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on January 26, 2017, 04:39:31 PM
Benny Litfin now at Bentleigh Greens in Victoria
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on January 26, 2017, 10:58:41 PM
The talent exodus to victoria continues. I'm excited by nplv 1 and 2. It's going to be an awesome b league in its own right.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on January 27, 2017, 09:16:28 AM
The talent exodus to victoria continues. I'm excited by nplv 1 and 2. It's going to be an awesome b league in its own right.
Agreed. There will be more and more recognizable players in the NPL as some players move on from HAL clubs. Should hopefully bring the standard across the board up.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on January 29, 2017, 09:52:26 PM
Saw Hume City Play Brisbane Strikers the other night.

Danny Kim and Jayden Prassad - Both Roar Youth (ex) - Now with Hume
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on February 13, 2017, 04:02:01 PM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 13th February 2017

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
21. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
20. Joey Katebian
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Jade North
17. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
16. Michael Theo
15. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
14. Matt McKay
13. Brett Holman
12. Nicholas D'Agostino
11. Connor O'Toole
10. Kye Rowles
9. Corey Brown
8. Jamie Young
7. Jack Hingert
6. Brandon Borrello
5. Thomas Oar
4. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
30/05/2015 - Luke Brattan - Released.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on February 14, 2017, 10:00:23 PM
Brisbane Roar have bolstered its defensive stocks, signing Australian-born Greek central defender Avram Papadopoulos.
http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-add-australia-born-greek-defender-to-squad/ (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-add-australia-born-greek-defender-to-squad/)

It gives me a warm feeling inside to have a Papadopoulos in the squad.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on February 15, 2017, 06:30:16 AM
Brisbane Roar have bolstered its defensive stocks, signing Australian-born Greek central defender Avram Papadopoulos.
[url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-add-australia-born-greek-defender-to-squad/[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-add-australia-born-greek-defender-to-squad/[/url])

It gives me a warm feeling inside to have a Papadopoulos in the squad.

I think he was playing in Japan until November. So that is a good two and half months of fitness to regain.
So maybe he will be on the bench. Hopefully he is fit. Has Craig Moore actually seen him, or is it a another Kurtisi?
Given the two games a week, we really need to be able to rotate.
I am just saying that getting back up is great news but is he fit?
Hopefully we get some more detail soon.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on February 15, 2017, 07:33:46 AM
not such a warm feeling for me ......he has been implicated in match fixing...may be innocent but Sydney FC passed on him when Jurman left because of it 
Link : http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/sydney/sydney-fc-decide-against-pursuing-greek-defender-avraam-papadopoulos/news-story/ac1b8afd21d54896ad567513a3b7c515 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/sydney/sydney-fc-decide-against-pursuing-greek-defender-avraam-papadopoulos/news-story/ac1b8afd21d54896ad567513a3b7c515)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Besty on February 15, 2017, 07:53:48 AM
Match fixing allegations leave a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth too. Though this was a few years ago, they were looking at 85 people and nothing has come of it, so hopefully there was nothing in it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: OTTO on February 15, 2017, 08:11:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TOYuKCnWM

Yea i agree hope he is clean...
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on February 15, 2017, 09:26:06 AM
Match fixing allegations leave a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth too. Though this was a few years ago, they were looking at 85 people and nothing has come of it, so hopefully there was nothing in it.

there is a big difference between being looked at and being prosecuted or even charged. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. As there have been no charges laid against him i will give him the benefit of the doubt. for comparison Bailey Wright was also being looked at for match fixing but there has been no evidence
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on February 15, 2017, 09:38:28 AM
Match fixing allegations leave a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth too. Though this was a few years ago, they were looking at 85 people and nothing has come of it, so hopefully there was nothing in it.

there is a big difference between being looked at and being prosecuted or even charged. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. As there have been no charges laid against him i will give him the benefit of the doubt. for comparison Bailey Wright was also being looked at for match fixing but there has been no evidence

Agree.  We have to assume innocent until proven otherwise. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on February 15, 2017, 09:46:10 AM
Decent piece of business there by Brisbane.

Our CB stocks are thin so bringing in this experienced fellow as an injury replacement is ideal. DeVere and North are our number 1 pairing so "Papa" will get a chance to work on his fitness and our style whilst maybe getting some junk minutes in a couple of games.
Another positive is that IF he impresses he may be a chance of earning a contract for next season. Jade North will want to continue to play well now too as he hasn't got a contract for next season as yet.

Can't find any resolution information on the match fixing allegations. From what I gather the investigation was back in 2011 so I'm sure if he'd been found guilty he would've had a black mark to his name.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on February 15, 2017, 10:30:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TOYuKCnWM

Yea i agree hope he is clean...
Based on the video he looks awesome in 1 v 1 situations.
So hopefully the guy is fit.
How does it work with injury replacement and the salary cap?
I believe there was already extra dollars under the cap. I assume that with Petratos gone, there is a bit more.
But what is the situation with injury replacement?
Is there an option to exclude Bowles salary from the cap as well? 
I have heard of such a thing in AFL, but not sure about A-League?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on February 15, 2017, 11:25:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TOYuKCnWM

Yea i agree hope he is clean...
Based on the video he looks awesome in 1 v 1 situations.
So hopefully the guy is fit.
How does it work with injury replacement and the salary cap?
I believe there was already extra dollars under the cap. I assume that with Petratos gone, there is a bit more.
But what is the situation with injury replacement?
Is there an option to exclude Bowles salary from the cap as well? 
I have heard of such a thing in AFL, but not sure about A-League?

It will depend on how they have actually put things down, but as he was a free agent when our window closed it opens up plenty of options. I believe if he is an injury replacement that means that bowles salary is not counted towards the cap BUT you can only pay the replacement the same amount as bowles was on which would mean that we couldnt give him petratos's wage as well. However i believe we could sign him as an injury replacement for all but the last game and then use petratos's space in the cap for that last game.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: denzele on February 15, 2017, 12:08:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TOYuKCnWM

Yea i agree hope he is clean...
Based on the video he looks awesome in 1 v 1 situations.
So hopefully the guy is fit.
How does it work with injury replacement and the salary cap?
I believe there was already extra dollars under the cap. I assume that with Petratos gone, there is a bit more.
But what is the situation with injury replacement?
Is there an option to exclude Bowles salary from the cap as well? 
I have heard of such a thing in AFL, but not sure about A-League?

Can't stop wondering  how many free kicks would be given against him if the ref was from A-League . May need a bit of adjusting once starts playing over here . Otherwise I can see red cards in there  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on February 15, 2017, 12:21:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TOYuKCnWM

Yea i agree hope he is clean...
Based on the video he looks awesome in 1 v 1 situations.
So hopefully the guy is fit.
How does it work with injury replacement and the salary cap?
I believe there was already extra dollars under the cap. I assume that with Petratos gone, there is a bit more.
But what is the situation with injury replacement?
Is there an option to exclude Bowles salary from the cap as well? 
I have heard of such a thing in AFL, but not sure about A-League?

It will depend on how they have actually put things down, but as he was a free agent when our window closed it opens up plenty of options. I believe if he is an injury replacement that means that bowles salary is not counted towards the cap BUT you can only pay the replacement the same amount as bowles was on which would mean that we couldnt give him petratos's wage as well. However i believe we could sign him as an injury replacement for all but the last game and then use petratos's space in the cap for that last game.
Thanks.
He has missed a fair bit of the European and ALeague season, and obviously has not secured a new contract in Asia.
Possibly smell of match fixing was influential  or maybe there is another reason he is still not in Japan.
So you would think from his perspective, the opportunity to train and play is attractive.
As far as I can see he left Jubilo Iwata by mutual consent in November. 
Jubilo Iwata have three foreigners one of which is from  Uzbekistan so that is not the reason he left.
I saw Denzele's comment re A League ref's and tend to agree. He reminds me of Alan Hunter's "no prisoners" style of defending back in the NSL.  Possibly another Dino Djulbic style defender.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: FireBlades19 on February 15, 2017, 12:37:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-TOYuKCnWM

Yea i agree hope he is clean...
Based on the video he looks awesome in 1 v 1 situations.
So hopefully the guy is fit.
How does it work with injury replacement and the salary cap?
I believe there was already extra dollars under the cap. I assume that with Petratos gone, there is a bit more.
But what is the situation with injury replacement?
Is there an option to exclude Bowles salary from the cap as well? 
I have heard of such a thing in AFL, but not sure about A-League?

It will depend on how they have actually put things down, but as he was a free agent when our window closed it opens up plenty of options. I believe if he is an injury replacement that means that bowles salary is not counted towards the cap BUT you can only pay the replacement the same amount as bowles was on which would mean that we couldnt give him petratos's wage as well. However i believe we could sign him as an injury replacement for all but the last game and then use petratos's space in the cap for that last game.
Thanks.
He has missed a fair bit of the European and ALeague season, and obviously has not secured a new contract in Asia.
Possibly smell of match fixing was influential  or maybe there is another reason he is still not in Japan.
So you would think from his perspective, the opportunity to train and play is attractive.
As far as I can see he left Jubilo Iwata by mutual consent in November. 
Jubilo Iwata have three foreigners one of which is from  Uzbekistan so that is not the reason he left.
I saw Denzele's comment re A League ref's and tend to agree. He reminds me of Alan Hunter's "no prisoners" style of defending back in the NSL.  Possibly another Dino Djulbic style defender.

another Dino wouldnt be too bad as long as he stays out of the refs books for the season..
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on February 15, 2017, 01:02:34 PM
looks like he is good at sticking a foot in and winning the ball ...only concern is how often he goes to ground when tackling..
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: OTTO on February 16, 2017, 02:38:35 PM
With McGowan family in the news.. makes me wonder what Ryan McGowan movments will be. been off contract for a month  dropped from his Chinese  club did we look at him ?!?!  Guess he will go to syd...
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on February 19, 2017, 06:04:12 PM
North staying for another season: http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on February 19, 2017, 08:08:27 PM
North staying for another season: [url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby[/url])

Good call. He's been one of our best this season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on February 19, 2017, 08:31:13 PM
North staying for another season: [url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby[/url])

Good call. He's been one of our best this season.


Will make it interesting if Papadopoulos ends up being decent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on February 20, 2017, 05:55:16 PM
Interesting to see if JA runs with north as a constant in the team or starts a rotation with an up and comer cb. Surely JA and north would know his role is now in transition.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on February 20, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
North staying for another season: [url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/vice-captain-north-puts-pen-to-paper/1640s5szwdp5r1b8mabqkqjcby[/url])

Good call. He's been one of our best this season.


Will make it interesting if Papadopoulos ends up being decent.

I thought I read somewhere that Bowles' injury is a 12 month prospect so we will need another hardened CB to start next season anyways?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on February 24, 2017, 12:00:03 PM
*Updated*

Here's the list as of today 24th February 2017

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
4*.Avram Papadopoulos - Injury Replacement for Daniel Bowles
21. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
20. Joey Katebian
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Thomas Broich (Fgn)
17. Michael Theo
16. Jamie Maclaren

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
15. Jade North
14. Matt McKay
13. Brett Holman
12. Nicholas D'Agostino
11. Connor O'Toole
10. Kye Rowles
9. Corey Brown
8. Jamie Young
7. Jack Hingert
6. Brandon Borrello
5. Thomas Oar
4. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory.
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers.
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on February 27, 2017, 05:33:37 PM
Marcelo Carrusca says he wants to leave Adelaide.
Better or worse option for us than Arana?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on February 27, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Crestani 46 - the centre back?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on February 27, 2017, 10:31:50 PM
Carrusca case is interesting. I'd say no pool thawing him and Holman. Probably would have opted for Carrusca over the two.

However, attitude wise, Holman is probably a clear winner. Carrusca seems to have dropped the ball after winning last year.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on February 28, 2017, 09:06:41 AM
Carrusca looks to me like a player who has run his race.  He will be 34 next season, and he's been poor this season.  We're already overloaded with players well into their 30s.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on February 28, 2017, 09:08:02 AM
Signing Holman as a marquee was a decision of breathtaking stupidity. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on February 28, 2017, 09:51:09 AM
Signing Holman as a marquee was a decision of breathtaking stupidity. 

I couldn't agree more!

Not sure how true but I heard today that the company doing Roar physio work has quit through money and other issues.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on February 28, 2017, 11:57:43 AM
Holman has a lot of one touch passing movements, that often produce's good options up front. He works hard around the pitch when off the ball.

If were looking for amazing marquee players coming to the Aleague we may as well take a sleeping pill and wake up in 10 years,,,, Mmmm most are heading elsewhere. I have to laugh when i read some comments on such websites as the roar FB page about getting players in.. We are one of the last options for any decent players below 30. We have to wait until the transfer windows are about to close to see who is left over. Then we can have a go... If any of the leftovers are worth it.

The Aleague marquee player is often a player past their prime, but could still get more money overseas. However the FFA want them here to milk the last out of their playing year(s) as a marketing campaign for the aleague. Hence the out of cap payments. And assistance fund. Oh the Cahill clause i think its known as.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on February 28, 2017, 07:30:55 PM
Holman looks like Butters might look in 10 years.
He throws his hands up when the ball is lost, stops suddenly when a pass goes astray, and generally seems to be watching the game rather than participating when off the ball.
He and Arana have been pretty disappointing so far. I know they both have ability and skill. They both appear to lack will and passion.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 04, 2017, 01:43:49 PM
More commentary about Roar's precarious finances in an article on the SBS site speculating that JA to go to Adelaide next season. For double his current deal.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on March 04, 2017, 04:29:54 PM
More commentary about Roar's precarious finances in an article on the SBS site speculating that JA to go to Adelaide next season. For double his current deal.

Because he's been so successful with the Roar??

I wonder if it would include his bro?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 04, 2017, 04:39:20 PM
More commentary about Roar's precarious finances in an article on the SBS site speculating that JA to go to Adelaide next season. For double his current deal.

Because he's been so successful with the Roar??

I wonder if it would include his bro?
Check the world game site for yourself. It seems JA is on $250k a year and Adelaide can offer $500k. Brisbane Roar  appear to be having financial issues still/again and could not compete.
The world game site suggests Ross would go too.
Possibly this is speculation based on Amor likely to go at the end of the season. Who knows?
I am expecting yet another off season of financial dramas.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on March 04, 2017, 05:13:43 PM
More commentary about Roar's precarious finances in an article on the SBS site speculating that JA to go to Adelaide next season. For double his current deal.

Because he's been so successful with the Roar??

I wonder if it would include his bro?
Check the world game site for yourself. It seems JA is on $250k a year and Adelaide can offer $500k. Brisbane Roar  appear to be having financial issues still/again and could not compete.
The world game site suggests Ross would go too.
Possibly this is speculation based on Amor likely to go at the end of the season. Who knows?
I am expecting yet another off season of financial dramas.

Yep looks like they would go as a pair, I hate nepotism! I didn't like it when he came as our assistant. Makes you wonder who's calling the shots.
As for financial dramas they never went away but look like spiking again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on March 06, 2017, 11:35:12 AM
Not sure how much truth is in that article.

Craig Moore came out on social media berating the author about not contacting anyone at the club for a comment or anything prior to publishing it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 12, 2017, 08:04:12 PM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/12/top-ten-league-players-market-next-season (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/12/top-ten-league-players-market-next-season)
This article by Greg Pritchard is a bit of a review on players whose contracts come up for renewal at the end of the season.
We are likely to lose Macca, but we are not the only club with talent not signed up beyond the end of the season.
The players I would like for Roar are Donovan and Castro.
And there is not club in the League that would not want Castro.
I think Perth will move heaven and earth to keep Castro, and if Mariners lose Donovan, it won't be to us.
But to suggest we might take Nichols back as a Thomas Broich replacement!! I read that and thought. Are you serious?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on March 13, 2017, 09:18:13 AM
On Nichols I could not see him entertaining the thought of coming back to the club. Yes on-field he had plenty of success but off it there's never been much love between the majority of fans and him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on March 13, 2017, 10:13:22 AM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/12/top-ten-league-players-market-next-season[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/03/12/top-ten-league-players-market-next-season[/url])
This article by Greg Pritchard is a bit of a review on players whose contracts come up for renewal at the end of the season.
We are likely to lose Macca, but we are not the only club with talent not signed up beyond the end of the season.
The players I would like for Roar are Donovan and Castro.
And there is not club in the League that would not want Castro.
I think Perth will move heaven and earth to keep Castro, and if Mariners lose Donovan, it won't be to us.
But to suggest we might take Nichols back as a Thomas Broich replacement!! I read that and thought. Are you serious?


I dont think we have the resources to capture any of those players. at the end of this season we are likely to lose/let go Macca, Arana, pepper and probably broich. Macca and Broich would likely be on ~250k each arana and pepper on ~80-100k. Calettie will have to be upgraded to a senior deal so that probably leaves 500-600k to replace a starting striker, starting play maker and rotation midfielder/winger, not a lot of cash to get decent players. without broich, petratos and arana we suddenly only have 1 player for LW, AM, RW which needs attention.

luckily we will get a little bit of extra cash from the increase in cap 250k minimum (possibly up to 750k), there will probably also be a fair bit of cash freed up from theo (either get a younger replacement or downgrade his contract as he is older and probably no longer first choice). still with no marquee spots available our recruiting will have to be very, very good to get good enough players to be competitive again next season.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: kb55 on March 13, 2017, 12:19:35 PM
Re earlier comment "Not sure how true but I heard today that the company doing Roar physio work has quit through money and other issues."
I heard the same thing on the weekend - physio not getting paid.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on March 13, 2017, 01:58:31 PM
Re earlier comment "Not sure how true but I heard today that the company doing Roar physio work has quit through money and other issues."
I heard the same thing on the weekend - physio not getting paid.

That not great to hear,

JA has already said that he won't go through another off season like the last two, can't blame him, plus if there is a job in Adelaide for him, its a no brainer.

While if we lose JA, there isn't  much we can do about that, it would just be nice to have a coach long term to build on the talent we have.

Ongoing issues like staff not being paid, kinda puts off players signing for your club.

Now were is that Red Bull Owner.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 29, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
Caletti uncertain of his future
http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/ (http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/)
Is the Roar insane? Why would they not be making sure JC is signed for next season?

If ever there was time for supporters to rally round and make sure this guy stays with us, surely it is now!
From my perspective no JC at Roar in 2017-2018 = no renewed membership. What about the  rest of you?

Brisbane Roar youngster Joe Caletti says he is not yet sure whether he will remain with the Queensland club beyond the end of the current 2016-17 season.
The 18-year-old signed for the Roar in January 2016 and has since broken into their first team setup, making the most of squad rotation between the Asian Champions League (ACL) and A-League.
Caletti starred in Brisbane?s 1-0 win over Melbourne Victory at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday and was rewarded with a place in the A-League?s Team of the Week.
He is expecting offers to arrive if he continues to perform.
?I guess it?s just going to reflect on how I perform for the rest of this season,? he said.
?If I perform well, I might get some offers or get another offer here, I?m not sure yet.
?I?m just really focused on putting in some good performances here.?
Caletti paid tribute to Brisbane?s wiser heads, crediting them for his strong form.
?(It?s nice), especially that successful group of players with experience that we have,? Caletti said.
?It makes my job a lot easier and they help me out on the field as well, especially as a young player coming through, so I?m really grateful for that.
?On game day, I don?t need to lift. I?m always up for it because I?ve been wanting to play in the A-League for so long.?
Brisbane sit equal third on the table with Melbourne City. Both teams have chalked up 36 points and are vying to secure third position
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on March 29, 2017, 07:01:50 PM
Caletti uncertain of his future
[url]http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/[/url] ([url]http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/[/url])
Is the Roar insane? Why would they not be making sure JC is signed for next season?

If ever there was time for supporters to rally round and make sure this guy stays with us, surely it is now!
From my perspective no JC at Roar in 2017-2018 = no renewed membership. What about the  rest of you?

Brisbane Roar youngster Joe Caletti says he is not yet sure whether he will remain with the Queensland club beyond the end of the current 2016-17 season.
The 18-year-old signed for the Roar in January 2016 and has since broken into their first team setup, making the most of squad rotation between the Asian Champions League (ACL) and A-League.
Caletti starred in Brisbane?s 1-0 win over Melbourne Victory at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday and was rewarded with a place in the A-League?s Team of the Week.
He is expecting offers to arrive if he continues to perform.
?I guess it?s just going to reflect on how I perform for the rest of this season,? he said.
?If I perform well, I might get some offers or get another offer here, I?m not sure yet.
?I?m just really focused on putting in some good performances here.?
Caletti paid tribute to Brisbane?s wiser heads, crediting them for his strong form.
?(It?s nice), especially that successful group of players with experience that we have,? Caletti said.
?It makes my job a lot easier and they help me out on the field as well, especially as a young player coming through, so I?m really grateful for that.
?On game day, I don?t need to lift. I?m always up for it because I?ve been wanting to play in the A-League for so long.?
Brisbane sit equal third on the table with Melbourne City. Both teams have chalked up 36 points and are vying to secure third position


Seems a little strange.. I'm guessing the A's are waiting to see how contract negoations go for them.. Then sign players like Joe and some other young ones where ever they end up.
Thats why it can be a catch 22 for clubs with prominent coaches running the show. I keep saying the club must be pro active in it's future with players and coaches.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on March 29, 2017, 07:42:27 PM
Caletti uncertain of his future
[url]http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/[/url] ([url]http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/[/url])
Is the Roar insane? Why would they not be making sure JC is signed for next season?

If ever there was time for supporters to rally round and make sure this guy stays with us, surely it is now!
From my perspective no JC at Roar in 2017-2018 = no renewed membership. What about the  rest of you?

Brisbane Roar youngster Joe Caletti says he is not yet sure whether he will remain with the Queensland club beyond the end of the current 2016-17 season.
The 18-year-old signed for the Roar in January 2016 and has since broken into their first team setup, making the most of squad rotation between the Asian Champions League (ACL) and A-League.
Caletti starred in Brisbane?s 1-0 win over Melbourne Victory at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday and was rewarded with a place in the A-League?s Team of the Week.
He is expecting offers to arrive if he continues to perform.
?I guess it?s just going to reflect on how I perform for the rest of this season,? he said.
?If I perform well, I might get some offers or get another offer here, I?m not sure yet.
?I?m just really focused on putting in some good performances here.?
Caletti paid tribute to Brisbane?s wiser heads, crediting them for his strong form.
?(It?s nice), especially that successful group of players with experience that we have,? Caletti said.
?It makes my job a lot easier and they help me out on the field as well, especially as a young player coming through, so I?m really grateful for that.
?On game day, I don?t need to lift. I?m always up for it because I?ve been wanting to play in the A-League for so long.?
Brisbane sit equal third on the table with Melbourne City. Both teams have chalked up 36 points and are vying to secure third position


I am sure they are, but there is only so much they can do. So much room in the cap when we already have McKay and Kristensen signed on. Yes he is a great prospect, but we have no idea what he is asking for and whether it is reasonable.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on March 30, 2017, 07:43:10 AM
Caletti uncertain of his future
[url]http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/[/url] ([url]http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-starlet-joe-caletti-unsure-where-future-lies-112/[/url])
Is the Roar insane? Why would they not be making sure JC is signed for next season?

If ever there was time for supporters to rally round and make sure this guy stays with us, surely it is now!
From my perspective no JC at Roar in 2017-2018 = no renewed membership. What about the  rest of you?

Brisbane Roar youngster Joe Caletti says he is not yet sure whether he will remain with the Queensland club beyond the end of the current 2016-17 season.
The 18-year-old signed for the Roar in January 2016 and has since broken into their first team setup, making the most of squad rotation between the Asian Champions League (ACL) and A-League.
Caletti starred in Brisbane?s 1-0 win over Melbourne Victory at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday and was rewarded with a place in the A-League?s Team of the Week.
He is expecting offers to arrive if he continues to perform.
?I guess it?s just going to reflect on how I perform for the rest of this season,? he said.
?If I perform well, I might get some offers or get another offer here, I?m not sure yet.
?I?m just really focused on putting in some good performances here.?
Caletti paid tribute to Brisbane?s wiser heads, crediting them for his strong form.
?(It?s nice), especially that successful group of players with experience that we have,? Caletti said.
?It makes my job a lot easier and they help me out on the field as well, especially as a young player coming through, so I?m really grateful for that.
?On game day, I don?t need to lift. I?m always up for it because I?ve been wanting to play in the A-League for so long.?
Brisbane sit equal third on the table with Melbourne City. Both teams have chalked up 36 points and are vying to secure third position


I am sure they are, but there is only so much they can do. So much room in the cap when we already have McKay and Kristensen signed on. Yes he is a great prospect, but we have no idea what he is asking for and whether it is reasonable.


I'd be guessing he'd be asking for around 70-90 k. He's had 5 aleague games. 4 starts 1 off the bench and subbed off twice. He has not really faced one of the stronger Aleague clubs yet at full strength ( a depleted MV last week ).
He's struggled in the ACL games against serious opposition.  He's on a learning curve like all young players. I do think we should be keeping him though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on March 30, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
Marco is reporting that he is close to signing a new deal with us.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 30, 2017, 08:43:38 AM
Marco is reporting that he is close to signing a new deal with us.
I saw Marco's piece and that is encouraging.
But I am standing by what I say. If we cannot keep Caletti then it speaks volumes about the health of the club.
Fortunately we still have a salary cap, which improves our chances to keep him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on March 30, 2017, 09:33:58 AM
Marco is reporting that he is close to signing a new deal with us.

Marco is not 100% reliable. He gets his grabs. He was reporting JA was signing a deal on Tuesday night... Nothing yet.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 30, 2017, 02:27:25 PM
There is a piece on the Fox Sports website by Vince Rugari on Macca.
It seems that Macca and Roar have not had discussions since what was reported a while back regarding the comments by Paddy Dominguez on the offer.
It sounds like there is plenty of interest in Macca from other clubs as you would expect. Nothing decided.
What I like about what is reported is how important playing for the Green and Gold is for Macca.
I think it is great to have a player for whom representing Australia is so important.
What I read into the article is that Macca is not driven purely by money but wants to maximise the prospect of playing in the Green and Gold.
So wherever he plays next season, he needs to be playing and maximising his chances of playing in the World Cup (assuming we qualify).
Looking at the current A league top teams Macca would not necessarily be guaranteed first choice at a fair few clubs, which starts to limit his options. Even Adelaide seem to have found a striker of late. 
I hope he stays.
On a side note, there has been a lot of comment re the Socceroos's last two performances. 
What our performances so far  highlight is that whilst Australia has some decent midfielders especially with Moy and Rogic to come back into the side, we  really do not have a world class striker.
It is  the missing piece of the puzzle for Ange.
Macca needs the chance to develop to his full potential and is as good as anyone else that is in the frame.
Staying at Roar is not a bad option.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 30, 2017, 03:09:58 PM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/ (http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on March 30, 2017, 04:05:37 PM
There is a piece on the Fox Sports website by Vince Rugari on Macca.
It seems that Macca and Roar have not had discussions since what was reported a while back regarding the comments by Paddy Dominguez on the offer.
It sounds like there is plenty of interest in Macca from other clubs as you would expect. Nothing decided.
What I like about what is reported is how important playing for the Green and Gold is for Macca.
I think it is great to have a player for whom representing Australia is so important.
What I read into the article is that Macca is not driven purely by money but wants to maximise the prospect of playing in the Green and Gold.
So wherever he plays next season, he needs to be playing and maximising his chances of playing in the World Cup (assuming we qualify).
Looking at the current A league top teams Macca would not necessarily be guaranteed first choice at a fair few clubs, which starts to limit his options. Even Adelaide seem to have found a striker of late. 
I hope he stays.
On a side note, there has been a lot of comment re the Socceroos's last two performances. 
What our performances so far  highlight is that whilst Australia has some decent midfielders especially with Moy and Rogic to come back into the side, we  really do not have a world class striker.
It is  the missing piece of the puzzle for Ange.
Macca needs the chance to develop to his full potential and is as good as anyone else that is in the frame.
Staying at Roar is not a bad option.

I doubt he would look at either Melbourne club to try and compete for a starting spot with Bes and Fornaroli.

I think he would straight away disregard the Jets, Mariners and Nix. I doubt they would offer more money than us and have worse squads.

Perth could make a play for him if they can't keep Taggart after his loan, but they still have Keogh for the next season.

Adelaide may be an option, as Baba has said he isn't sure what he is doing after the season. Big risk going to the almost wooden spooners who are probably in for a rebuild.

I think Bobo is off contract after this season, so perhaps Sydney FC will make a play. They would have the money and a marquee spot open. They seem more likely to go for another big name though.

Western Sydney are in desperate need of a striker and have marquee spots open. I'd say they would likely be making an offer.

For us, I think we may not be able to give him the most money, but he knows how we play. We have a decent squad. What we are missing is the tactics to take advantage of what he can do. Perhaps if our midfield finds some creativity, he would benefit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on March 30, 2017, 04:33:55 PM
There is a piece on the Fox Sports website by Vince Rugari on Macca.
It seems that Macca and Roar have not had discussions since what was reported a while back regarding the comments by Paddy Dominguez on the offer.
It sounds like there is plenty of interest in Macca from other clubs as you would expect. Nothing decided.
What I like about what is reported is how important playing for the Green and Gold is for Macca.
I think it is great to have a player for whom representing Australia is so important.
What I read into the article is that Macca is not driven purely by money but wants to maximise the prospect of playing in the Green and Gold.
So wherever he plays next season, he needs to be playing and maximising his chances of playing in the World Cup (assuming we qualify).
Looking at the current A league top teams Macca would not necessarily be guaranteed first choice at a fair few clubs, which starts to limit his options. Even Adelaide seem to have found a striker of late. 
I hope he stays.
On a side note, there has been a lot of comment re the Socceroos's last two performances. 
What our performances so far  highlight is that whilst Australia has some decent midfielders especially with Moy and Rogic to come back into the side, we  really do not have a world class striker.
It is  the missing piece of the puzzle for Ange.
Macca needs the chance to develop to his full potential and is as good as anyone else that is in the frame.
Staying at Roar is not a bad option.

I doubt he would look at either Melbourne club to try and compete for a starting spot with Bes and Fornaroli.

I think he would straight away disregard the Jets, Mariners and Nix. I doubt they would offer more money than us and have worse squads.

Perth could make a play for him if they can't keep Taggart after his loan, but they still have Keogh for the next season.

Adelaide may be an option, as Baba has said he isn't sure what he is doing after the season. Big risk going to the almost wooden spooners who are probably in for a rebuild.

I think Bobo is off contract after this season, so perhaps Sydney FC will make a play. They would have the money and a marquee spot open. They seem more likely to go for another big name though.

Western Sydney are in desperate need of a striker and have marquee spots open. I'd say they would likely be making an offer.

For us, I think we may not be able to give him the most money, but he knows how we play. We have a decent squad. What we are missing is the tactics to take advantage of what he can do. Perhaps if our midfield finds some creativity, he would benefit.
Agree. Except if Sydney let Bobo go, then maybe they will be interested in Macca.
Ange has made comments about young players going overseas too soon. He blames it on the salary cap.
The last thing Macca needs is to go somewhere for more money and not play week in week out. He needs to be the first choice.
He needs to think carefully now about what he wants.
He could  sign another Roar contract with an exit clause allowing him to go to another club if the  right offer comes. But he still needs to be careful that it is the right offer.
If he can get to Moscow in 2018 and show case his stuff, he can kick on from there. Although Australia may not make it to Moscow.
If Roar can make third spot in the  A League (which incidentally would be helped by Macca scoring a few goals) , then there is another shot at ACL next year.
Personally I don't see anything in the ACL for the Roar but it may benefit individual players like Macca. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on March 30, 2017, 06:55:41 PM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
[url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url] ([url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url])


Congratulations Dane Ingham. Wow what's up with the Roar? An international and no mention,, just checked the aleague site and its on their to.
NZ have some decent players currently.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on March 30, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
That information was posted through the A-League site and also on the club's twitter feed, and I also remember reading about it when he was selected, and after they played.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on March 31, 2017, 08:49:39 AM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
[url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url] ([url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url])


Congratulations Dane Ingham. Wow what's up with the Roar? An international and no mention,, just checked the aleague site and its on their to.
NZ have some decent players currently.


This is bullshit. This is NZ making that he can't play for anyone else if he turns out to be a decent player.  Pure speculation and very dubious ethically. There is no way Dane is an international.

This is preying on young players.  Dane is too young to make this decision, but he's screwed now, and to suggest that he is a Kiwi is just ludicrous.

Deeply unethical on the part of the NZ coach and management.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on March 31, 2017, 09:36:10 AM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
[url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url] ([url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url])


Congratulations Dane Ingham. Wow what's up with the Roar? An international and no mention,, just checked the aleague site and its on their to.
NZ have some decent players currently.


This is bullshit. This is NZ making that he can't play for anyone else if he turns out to be a decent player.  Pure speculation and very dubious ethically. There is no way Dane is an international.

This is preying on young players.  Dane is too young to make this decision, but he's screwed now, and to suggest that he is a Kiwi is just ludicrous.

Deeply unethical on the part of the NZ coach and management.


According to the below article, he sat down with his family and they made the decision together. He apparently supported both Australia and New Zealand growing up also.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/brisbane-roars-dane-ingham-explains-why-he-opted-to-represent-new-zealand/news-story/cfd6e8c74c597723d269833af787438b (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/brisbane-roars-dane-ingham-explains-why-he-opted-to-represent-new-zealand/news-story/cfd6e8c74c597723d269833af787438b)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on March 31, 2017, 10:44:19 AM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
[url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url] ([url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url])


Congratulations Dane Ingham. Wow what's up with the Roar? An international and no mention,, just checked the aleague site and its on their to.
NZ have some decent players currently.


This is bullshit. This is NZ making that he can't play for anyone else if he turns out to be a decent player.  Pure speculation and very dubious ethically. There is no way Dane is an international.

This is preying on young players.  Dane is too young to make this decision, but he's screwed now, and to suggest that he is a Kiwi is just ludicrous.

Deeply unethical on the part of the NZ coach and management.


That's one way to look at at...

Although do you know who the NZ coach is? As i understand it be be Alan Hudsons son Anthony Hudson.. You do know who Hudson is? 

Ingham would be now up for selection to go to the  NZ under20's world cup in Korea next month. Then up for the confeds cup in Russia... Surely this sort of exposure would have to improve him as a player. As long as he comes back a better player for the Roar all good.. Is it all important how you get that exposure, or is it more important that you get it,,,, making him a better player surely.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on March 31, 2017, 10:54:39 AM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
[url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url] ([url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url])


Congratulations Dane Ingham. Wow what's up with the Roar? An international and no mention,, just checked the aleague site and its on their to.
NZ have some decent players currently.


This is bullshit. This is NZ making that he can't play for anyone else if he turns out to be a decent player.  Pure speculation and very dubious ethically. There is no way Dane is an international.

This is preying on young players.  Dane is too young to make this decision, but he's screwed now, and to suggest that he is a Kiwi is just ludicrous.

Deeply unethical on the part of the NZ coach and management.


That's one way to look at at...

Although do you know who the NZ coach is? As i understand it be be Alan Hudsons son Anthony Hudson.. You do know who Hudson is? 

Ingham would be now up for selection to go to the  NZ under20's world cup in Korea next month. Then up for the confeds cup in Russia... Surely this sort of exposure would have to improve him as a player. As long as he comes back a better player for the Roar all good.. Is it all important how you get that exposure, or is it more important that you get it,,,, making him a better player surely.


I do know who Alan Hudson is, Harry, but I'm not sure what relevance that has.

I accept your points, without having them change my view.  This is a country being cynically opportunistic by locking up a young playerl on the grounds of potential.  And, frankly, if they Kiwis need to call up a teenager who isn't even a first team A League player, and this brother, who is a fringe player only - neither of whom can be remotely considered New Zealanders - then their playing stocks must be desperate.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Harry H on March 31, 2017, 11:30:39 AM
I haven't see it reported yet up here in NRL City, but Dane Ingham made his debut for New Zealand v Fiji on Tuesday.
Congratulations!
[url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url] ([url]http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/all-whites-book-final-with-second-fiji-win/[/url])


Congratulations Dane Ingham. Wow what's up with the Roar? An international and no mention,, just checked the aleague site and its on their to.
NZ have some decent players currently.


This is bullshit. This is NZ making that he can't play for anyone else if he turns out to be a decent player.  Pure speculation and very dubious ethically. There is no way Dane is an international.

This is preying on young players.  Dane is too young to make this decision, but he's screwed now, and to suggest that he is a Kiwi is just ludicrous.

Deeply unethical on the part of the NZ coach and management.


That's one way to look at at...

Although do you know who the NZ coach is? As i understand it be be Alan Hudsons son Anthony Hudson.. You do know who Hudson is? 

Ingham would be now up for selection to go to the  NZ under20's world cup in Korea next month. Then up for the confeds cup in Russia... Surely this sort of exposure would have to improve him as a player. As long as he comes back a better player for the Roar all good.. Is it all important how you get that exposure, or is it more important that you get it,,,, making him a better player surely.


I do know who Alan Hudson is, Harry, but I'm not sure what relevance that has.

I accept your points, without having them change my view.  This is a country being cynically opportunistic by locking up a young playerl on the grounds of potential.  And, frankly, if they Kiwis need to call up a teenager who isn't even a first team A League player, and this brother, who is a fringe player only - neither of whom can be remotely considered New Zealanders - then their playing stocks must be desperate.


As everybody knows about Aust football is not always what you know, but who you know. That would be my relevance with the Hudson connection.
I just read a few thing about the Anthony. Youngest coach / manager to ever get his UEFA pro licence. Redknapp rates him highly and so on.

Not much difference to Aust currently...LBH... In fact it would be an interesting match up.  The kiwis have some players that would be a walk up a start in the Aust team. Rojas, Reid, Wood.

That would be good,,,, nothing like a bit of an international derby to get the blood flowing. Especially a Aust-NZ one.

Any way good luck to both of them.. Nobody started at the top and there are plenty of internationals around you could say the same think about.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on March 31, 2017, 11:33:04 AM
Not sure why you're up in arms Coast. Plenty of other countries do it as well. Heck I reckon even Australia have capped a couple of youngsters over the last 20 years just so they're locked in.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on April 20, 2017, 01:38:03 PM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 20th April 2017

Contracted till the end of 2016/17 Season:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT
Joe Caletti - YOUTH CONTRACT (Length unknown)
4*.Avram Papadopoulos - Injury Replacement for Daniel Bowles
21. Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn)
20. Joey Katebian
19. Jacob Pepper
18. Thomas Broich (Fgn) - LEAVING
17. Michael Theo
16. Jamie Maclaren (most likely leaving)

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
15. Jade North
14. Matt McKay
13. Brett Holman
12. Nicholas D'Agostino
11. Connor O'Toole
10. Kye Rowles
9. Corey Brown
8. Jamie Young
7. Jack Hingert
6. Brandon Borrello
5. Thomas Oar
4. Daniel Bowles

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
29/04/2016 - Jean Carlo Solorzano - Released. Contract Expired.
28/04/2016 - Devante Clut - Released. Newcastle Jets.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on April 20, 2017, 04:30:09 PM
What do we do about Crestani?

Should we try and get him onto a contract? Will it become too many CB's though as we've got DeVere, North and Bowles onboard plus Avraam is playing well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on April 20, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
What do we do about Crestani?

Should we try and get him onto a contract? Will it become too many CB's though as we've got DeVere, North and Bowles onboard plus Avraam is playing well.
My 10 cents worth. This is all pure speculation on my part. You asked the question!
Isn't Kye Roles also a central defender too?
As regards Crestani,  I think for him, the key is who covers during Jack's absence at RB?
The main difference is that Crestani can tackle whilst I think Dane Ingham has more pace.
The last article I saw in February was we are talking 2018 for Daniel Bowles to return.
Given the number of central defenders, I think Crestani's best hope is as a right back, and based on the Nix game, he got the nod over Ingham. Despite his problems on Sunday's first half, I think he will get the nod against WSW. WSW are a physical side. I expect WSW to target him big time.  If he does well, he should get a contract, with Ingham still be a youth player. This is his chance.
We may end up letting Papa go which you would think will almost certainly be to another A League club.
Even though Papa is arguably stronger than De Vere. Purely because of the situation around who is contracted already.
I am not sure how it works with injury back ups.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on April 26, 2017, 11:50:36 AM
So our busy schedule has really highlighted some areas for improvement in the off-season.

Will Theo get another contract? I would keep him on if he is willing to sign for cheap, otherwise I think we should look elsewhere.

Lots of depth at CB, which is nice. I am really likely Avram but I doubt he will stay (will probably go to another A-League club), as we won't be able to afford North, DeVere, Bowles and Avram.

LB and RB are an issue for me. We have had several experimental players in these roles (playing out of position) and no one has really stood out. O'Toole is a LB so it would be good to see him get some time to show what he can do. I suppose Bowles coming back solves the RB issue as he is a capable back up.

Kristensen, McKay and Caletti is plenty for DM, although do we have any other youth DMs that could be brought through?

Holman starting at AM and then youth as an option?

RW is a big issue. Brady hasn't shown he is up for it yet and surely this schedule is taking it's toll on Borello. Good on him for powering through though. Guy must be super fit.

With Broich going, the LW belongs to Oar. Hopefully he can elevate his play to be worthy of his marquee status. Any decent back ups here?

Daggers is showing potential. Whether can is reliable enough as a second option, I am not sure.

Assuming Maclaren, Broich are gone, we need a prolific striker, a LW to push Oar, an AM to push Holman, a RW to provide some relief for Borello, perhaps a new keeper to replace Theo (hopefully cheaper to free up money for other positions). I would love for JA to find a decent version of Arana. Classy/creative foreigner who can play across the front 3. Probably wishful thinking though.

                      Young

Hingert    DeVere    North    Brown

         Kristensen     McKay

                     Holman

Borello                                   Oar

                 TBD forward

Bench: TBD GK (or Theo), Caletti, Bowles, TBD new (and decent Arana), TBD forward (or Daggers)

It is a solid squad, but surely lacking some creativity. I feel like there will be a giant Broich sized hole next season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on April 26, 2017, 12:40:26 PM
So our busy schedule has really highlighted some areas for improvement in the off-season.

Will Theo get another contract? I would keep him on if he is willing to sign for cheap, otherwise I think we should look elsewhere.

Lots of depth at CB, which is nice. I am really likely Avram but I doubt he will stay (will probably go to another A-League club), as we won't be able to afford North, DeVere, Bowles and Avram.

LB and RB are an issue for me. We have had several experimental players in these roles (playing out of position) and no one has really stood out. O'Toole is a LB so it would be good to see him get some time to show what he can do. I suppose Bowles coming back solves the RB issue as he is a capable back up.

Kristensen, McKay and Caletti is plenty for DM, although do we have any other youth DMs that could be brought through?

Holman starting at AM and then youth as an option?

RW is a big issue. Brady hasn't shown he is up for it yet and surely this schedule is taking it's toll on Borello. Good on him for powering through though. Guy must be super fit.

With Broich going, the LW belongs to Oar. Hopefully he can elevate his play to be worthy of his marquee status. Any decent back ups here?

Daggers is showing potential. Whether can is reliable enough as a second option, I am not sure.

Assuming Maclaren, Broich are gone, we need a prolific striker, a LW to push Oar, an AM to push Holman, a RW to provide some relief for Borello, perhaps a new keeper to replace Theo (hopefully cheaper to free up money for other positions). I would love for JA to find a decent version of Arana. Classy/creative foreigner who can play across the front 3. Probably wishful thinking though.

                      Young

Hingert    DeVere    North    Brown

         Kristensen     McKay

                     Holman

Borello                                   Oar

                 TBD forward

Bench: TBD GK (or Theo), Caletti, Bowles, TBD new (and decent Arana), TBD forward (or Daggers)

It is a solid squad, but surely lacking some creativity. I feel like there will be a giant Broich sized hole next season.

Good analysis, i would like to keep Avram and rotate the three CB's but i agree that it might be hard to find enough cash to keep him (particularly with a Maca sized hole to fill up front under the cap),given the previous I would move Crestani into the squad as CB depth with Bowles also capable of covering there, that means we need to start looking at developing a young RB to come into the squad in the next 3 years.

I  think that Daggers has looked better in Holeman's 10 role rather than up front at number 9. At this stage i am quite happy to keep him as the bench AM player to replace holeman and do a job up front if we are desperate.

pepper and Arana need to be let go (though i am on the fence with Arana as i think he is CHEAP). konstanta Calletie replaces pepper as the "depth player" and Konstanta replaces Calletie as the youth prospect.

that leaves a prolific striker and a player that can play backup LW/RW (preferably a good one that people would be happy to be a first team player) and then fill out whats left with youth players.

we will likely still end up in the same situation as this year with youth having to play a big role (assuming we get an acl spot) but that is the trouble with a salary capped league, with a little better preparation (now that Dodd is not looking after players fitness) we should have the squad to again compete for the league. Aloisi has to focus on recruiting 2 key players and we should be ok, but that is do or die really get a poor striker and the season is gone before it started (i expect a backended marquee deal again, plays for cheap next season then moves into the marquee spot). wild speculation right now but I reckon Scott Mcdonald is on our radar, 33, played 36 games in the scottish league this season for 11 goals and likely off contract.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on April 26, 2017, 09:50:11 PM
So our busy schedule has really highlighted some areas for improvement in the off-season.

Will Theo get another contract? I would keep him on if he is willing to sign for cheap, otherwise I think we should look elsewhere.

Lots of depth at CB, which is nice. I am really likely Avram but I doubt he will stay (will probably go to another A-League club), as we won't be able to afford North, DeVere, Bowles and Avram.

LB and RB are an issue for me. We have had several experimental players in these roles (playing out of position) and no one has really stood out. O'Toole is a LB so it would be good to see him get some time to show what he can do. I suppose Bowles coming back solves the RB issue as he is a capable back up.

Kristensen, McKay and Caletti is plenty for DM, although do we have any other youth DMs that could be brought through?

Holman starting at AM and then youth as an option?

RW is a big issue. Brady hasn't shown he is up for it yet and surely this schedule is taking it's toll on Borello. Good on him for powering through though. Guy must be super fit.

With Broich going, the LW belongs to Oar. Hopefully he can elevate his play to be worthy of his marquee status. Any decent back ups here?

Daggers is showing potential. Whether can is reliable enough as a second option, I am not sure.

Assuming Maclaren, Broich are gone, we need a prolific striker, a LW to push Oar, an AM to push Holman, a RW to provide some relief for Borello, perhaps a new keeper to replace Theo (hopefully cheaper to free up money for other positions). I would love for JA to find a decent version of Arana. Classy/creative foreigner who can play across the front 3. Probably wishful thinking though.

                      Young

Hingert    DeVere    North    Brown

         Kristensen     McKay

                     Holman

Borello                                   Oar

                 TBD forward

Bench: TBD GK (or Theo), Caletti, Bowles, TBD new (and decent Arana), TBD forward (or Daggers)

It is a solid squad, but surely lacking some creativity. I feel like there will be a giant Broich sized hole next season.

Good analysis, i would like to keep Avram and rotate the three CB's but i agree that it might be hard to find enough cash to keep him (particularly with a Maca sized hole to fill up front under the cap),given the previous I would move Crestani into the squad as CB depth with Bowles also capable of covering there, that means we need to start looking at developing a young RB to come into the squad in the next 3 years.

I  think that Daggers has looked better in Holeman's 10 role rather than up front at number 9. At this stage i am quite happy to keep him as the bench AM player to replace holeman and do a job up front if we are desperate.

pepper and Arana need to be let go (though i am on the fence with Arana as i think he is CHEAP). konstanta Calletie replaces pepper as the "depth player" and Konstanta replaces Calletie as the youth prospect.

that leaves a prolific striker and a player that can play backup LW/RW (preferably a good one that people would be happy to be a first team player) and then fill out whats left with youth players.

we will likely still end up in the same situation as this year with youth having to play a big role (assuming we get an acl spot) but that is the trouble with a salary capped league, with a little better preparation (now that Dodd is not looking after players fitness) we should have the squad to again compete for the league. Aloisi has to focus on recruiting 2 key players and we should be ok, but that is do or die really get a poor striker and the season is gone before it started (i expect a backended marquee deal again, plays for cheap next season then moves into the marquee spot). wild speculation right now but I reckon Scott Mcdonald is on our radar, 33, played 36 games in the scottish league this season for 11 goals and likely off contract.
The CM is reporting that Papa wants to stay; Roar want him to stay; and that contract talks are in progress.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on April 27, 2017, 12:20:21 AM
Arana def gone after tonight.... aloisi's face said it all
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on April 27, 2017, 05:50:28 PM
Jumpei Kuskami may be released by WSW.
Apart from the pen he was outstanding as an attacking midfielder in the games against us. Thoughts?
Anyone else at WSW that is worth a look?
To me picking up a known entity who has played A League is a better than option than taking a punt on a Hervas or Arana.
I don't think there is anyone at FFA City we might want apart from say Brandan?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on April 27, 2017, 06:19:18 PM
Jumpei Kuskami may be released by WSW.
Apart from the pen he was outstanding as an attacking midfielder in the games against us. Thoughts?
Anyone else at WSW that is worth a look?
To me picking up a known entity who has played A League is a better than option than taking a punt on a Hervas or Arana.
I don't think there is anyone at FFA City we might want apart from say Brandan?

WSW fans have rubbished him most of the season and I thought he has been pretty average overall. Certainly don't think he would displace anyone in the starting XI currently and, as a visa player, he really should.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Tr0jan on April 27, 2017, 07:13:13 PM
Jumpei Kuskami may be released by WSW.
Apart from the pen he was outstanding as an attacking midfielder in the games against us. Thoughts?
Anyone else at WSW that is worth a look?
To me picking up a known entity who has played A League is a better than option than taking a punt on a Hervas or Arana.
I don't think there is anyone at FFA City we might want apart from say Brandan?

No to both. Brandan has a horrendous attitude and his antics, for mine, aren't wanted.

Jumpei is half a product. Occasionally makes a good run but his final product is poor. Bad decision making in the final third and rushed passes and poor finishing.

They are both on a level with Arana.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on April 27, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
Troisi or Castro would be useful.

Kusakami and Brandan are both hot and cold. Troisi is approaching the best period of his career and Castro I haven't seen play terribly.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on April 27, 2017, 09:38:19 PM
Troisi or Castro would be useful.

Kusakami and Brandan are both hot and cold. Troisi is approaching the best period of his career and Castro I haven't seen play terribly.
Problem with those two I believe is that they would command Marquee Dollars which we don't have.

You could argue that Troisi & Castro in current form would definitely edge Oar at the moment but I Holman is running close to them at the moment.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on April 28, 2017, 09:14:32 AM
Troisi or Castro would be useful.

Kusakami and Brandan are both hot and cold. Troisi is approaching the best period of his career and Castro I haven't seen play terribly.
Problem with those two I believe is that they would command Marquee Dollars which we don't have.

You could argue that Troisi & Castro in current form would definitely edge Oar at the moment but I Holman is running close to them at the moment.


Both of those players play in positions we already have covered and probably cant spend big on. We need a striker for next season, that is where the bulk of our money will need to be spent. We do need an attacking mid that can play anywhere up front and troisi definitely fits that bill but would demand a big salary that we dont have to offer. Saying that we could do a backended marquee deal as we did with holeman and oar.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Yowie Dude on April 28, 2017, 11:05:57 AM
*Oops - moved to relavent topic - http://theroarforum.com/index.php?topic=9420.msg205346;topicseen#new (http://theroarforum.com/index.php?topic=9420.msg205346;topicseen#new)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: OTTO on May 01, 2017, 06:51:46 PM

So our busy schedule has really highlighted some areas for improvement in the off-season.

Will Theo get another contract? I would keep him on if he is willing to sign for cheap, otherwise I think we should look elsewhere.

Lots of depth at CB, which is nice. I am really likely Avram but I doubt he will stay (will probably go to another A-League club), as we won't be able to afford North, DeVere, Bowles and Avram.

LB and RB are an issue for me. We have had several experimental players in these roles (playing out of position) and no one has really stood out. O'Toole is a LB so it would be good to see him get some time to show what he can do. I suppose Bowles coming back solves the RB issue as he is a capable back up.

Kristensen, McKay and Caletti is plenty for DM, although do we have any other youth DMs that could be brought through?

Holman starting at AM and then youth as an option?

RW is a big issue. Brady hasn't shown he is up for it yet and surely this schedule is taking it's toll on Borello. Good on him for powering through though. Guy must be super fit.

With Broich going, the LW belongs to Oar. Hopefully he can elevate his play to be worthy of his marquee status. Any decent back ups here?

Daggers is showing potential. Whether can is reliable enough as a second option, I am not sure.

Assuming Maclaren, Broich are gone, we need a prolific striker, a LW to push Oar, an AM to push Holman, a RW to provide some relief for Borello, perhaps a new keeper to replace Theo (hopefully cheaper to free up money for other positions). I would love for JA to find a decent version of Arana. Classy/creative foreigner who can play across the front 3. Probably wishful thinking though.

                      Young

Hingert    DeVere    North    Brown

         Kristensen     McKay

                     Holman

Borello                                   Oar

                 TBD forward

Bench: TBD GK (or Theo), Caletti, Bowles, TBD new (and decent Arana), TBD forward (or Daggers)

It is a solid squad, but surely lacking some creativity. I feel like there will be a giant Broich sized hole next season.


Good analysis, i would like to keep Avram and rotate the three CB's but i agree that it might be hard to find enough cash to keep him (particularly with a Maca sized hole to fill up front under the cap),given the previous I would move Crestani into the squad as CB depth with Bowles also capable of covering there, that means we need to start looking at developing a young RB to come into the squad in the next 3 years.

I  think that Daggers has looked better in Holeman's 10 role rather than up front at number 9. At this stage i am quite happy to keep him as the bench AM player to replace holeman and do a job up front if we are desperate.

pepper and Arana need to be let go (though i am on the fence with Arana as i think he is CHEAP). konstanta Calletie replaces pepper as the "depth player" and Konstanta replaces Calletie as the youth prospect.

that leaves a prolific striker and a player that can play backup LW/RW (preferably a good one that people would be happy to be a first team player) and then fill out whats left with youth players.

we will likely still end up in the same situation as this year with youth having to play a big role (assuming we get an acl spot) but that is the trouble with a salary capped league, with a little better preparation (now that Dodd is not looking after players fitness) we should have the squad to again compete for the league. Aloisi has to focus on recruiting 2 key players and we should be ok, but that is do or die really get a poor striker and the season is gone before it started (i expect a backended marquee deal again, plays for cheap next season then moves into the marquee spot). wild speculation right now but I reckon Scott Mcdonald is on our radar, 33, played 36 games in the scottish league this season for 11 goals and likely off contract.
 

I was looking back at these posts good input guys. really funny i was looking at ending contracts and available players and Scott Mcdonald  name came up ..but also who knows what new rules could be made up like ( Guest Marquee ) still wish we got Diego Forl?n was dreaming of Robbie Keane haha
the idea of prolific striker is great but hard to come by maybe,some names i was looking into.starting with Georgios Samaras and Mcdonald
 
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I cant stop thinking what will happen with Macca and Broich getting abit anoying. also dont know about what the pay will be like for Oar and Holman both great but.. yea.
looking at depth these guy came to mind Erik Paartalu or  Michael Thwaite ( dont know what willl happen CB wise) wonder is Chris Herd would move to Brisbane? an experienced asian player at LB or attcking mid..
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 01, 2017, 09:50:19 PM
Corey Gameiro has been released
Having seen how Luke De Vere has come back after severe injury and a lengthy spell on the sidelines, maybe his career can be resurrected. 
We never really back filled Dimi.
Having seen how young players Corey Brown, Macca, Borrello and JC have developed/continue to develop at Roar, a chance here might be attractive for Gameiro.
And probably he is not expensive.
He was very promising in his early career but never quite took off and has had injuries. Worth a punt?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: jamboree on May 02, 2017, 05:04:25 AM
I see the following issues that the roar need to sort out in the off season:
1) GK -- Young was poor with his feet and in the air. Do we keep Theo for another season ? or give a youngster a go to free up salary cap
2) Too many centre-backs without enough full back cover
3) TK cover ? McKay and Caletti do not offer enough defensive cover -- should we play 3 centre-backs if TK is out ?
4) CAM/LW cover -- need another option for ACL
5) Striker
Would a different style of striker suit roar more than McLaren ?? A hold up player who is strong in the air maybe better suited to Oar/Brown crossing balls in the box. My other concern are the goals from the other attackers -- Holman, Oar, Caletti, Mckay and TK don't score a lot and Borrello is inconsistent.
D'Agostino is relatively short but perhaps stronger.
A player like Fornarolli/Keogh/Bobo could have held the ball against Victory or been a target when we were under the pump.

I agree with option of Gameiro. Big risk but better than Arana.
Other options: Marinkovic from Perth -- good at set pieces
Slippery fish ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 02, 2017, 03:36:40 PM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit)

Paddy Dominguez is such a wanker.  In another time he would have been selling dodgy watches in Kings Cross.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 02, 2017, 05:31:23 PM

So our busy schedule has really highlighted some areas for improvement in the off-season.

Will Theo get another contract? I would keep him on if he is willing to sign for cheap, otherwise I think we should look elsewhere.

Lots of depth at CB, which is nice. I am really likely Avram but I doubt he will stay (will probably go to another A-League club), as we won't be able to afford North, DeVere, Bowles and Avram.

LB and RB are an issue for me. We have had several experimental players in these roles (playing out of position) and no one has really stood out. O'Toole is a LB so it would be good to see him get some time to show what he can do. I suppose Bowles coming back solves the RB issue as he is a capable back up.

Kristensen, McKay and Caletti is plenty for DM, although do we have any other youth DMs that could be brought through?

Holman starting at AM and then youth as an option?

RW is a big issue. Brady hasn't shown he is up for it yet and surely this schedule is taking it's toll on Borello. Good on him for powering through though. Guy must be super fit.

With Broich going, the LW belongs to Oar. Hopefully he can elevate his play to be worthy of his marquee status. Any decent back ups here?

Daggers is showing potential. Whether can is reliable enough as a second option, I am not sure.

Assuming Maclaren, Broich are gone, we need a prolific striker, a LW to push Oar, an AM to push Holman, a RW to provide some relief for Borello, perhaps a new keeper to replace Theo (hopefully cheaper to free up money for other positions). I would love for JA to find a decent version of Arana. Classy/creative foreigner who can play across the front 3. Probably wishful thinking though.

                      Young

Hingert    DeVere    North    Brown

         Kristensen     McKay

                     Holman

Borello                                   Oar

                 TBD forward

Bench: TBD GK (or Theo), Caletti, Bowles, TBD new (and decent Arana), TBD forward (or Daggers)

It is a solid squad, but surely lacking some creativity. I feel like there will be a giant Broich sized hole next season.


Good analysis, i would like to keep Avram and rotate the three CB's but i agree that it might be hard to find enough cash to keep him (particularly with a Maca sized hole to fill up front under the cap),given the previous I would move Crestani into the squad as CB depth with Bowles also capable of covering there, that means we need to start looking at developing a young RB to come into the squad in the next 3 years.

I  think that Daggers has looked better in Holeman's 10 role rather than up front at number 9. At this stage i am quite happy to keep him as the bench AM player to replace holeman and do a job up front if we are desperate.

pepper and Arana need to be let go (though i am on the fence with Arana as i think he is CHEAP). konstanta Calletie replaces pepper as the "depth player" and Konstanta replaces Calletie as the youth prospect.

that leaves a prolific striker and a player that can play backup LW/RW (preferably a good one that people would be happy to be a first team player) and then fill out whats left with youth players.

we will likely still end up in the same situation as this year with youth having to play a big role (assuming we get an acl spot) but that is the trouble with a salary capped league, with a little better preparation (now that Dodd is not looking after players fitness) we should have the squad to again compete for the league. Aloisi has to focus on recruiting 2 key players and we should be ok, but that is do or die really get a poor striker and the season is gone before it started (i expect a backended marquee deal again, plays for cheap next season then moves into the marquee spot). wild speculation right now but I reckon Scott Mcdonald is on our radar, 33, played 36 games in the scottish league this season for 11 goals and likely off contract.
 

I was looking back at these posts good input guys. really funny i was looking at ending contracts and available players and Scott Mcdonald  name came up ..but also who knows what new rules could be made up like ( Guest Marquee ) still wish we got Diego Forl?n was dreaming of Robbie Keane haha
the idea of prolific striker is great but hard to come by maybe,some names i was looking into.starting with Georgios Samaras and Mcdonald
 
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I cant stop thinking what will happen with Macca and Broich getting abit anoying. also dont know about what the pay will be like for Oar and Holman both great but.. yea.
looking at depth these guy came to mind Erik Paartalu or  Michael Thwaite ( dont know what willl happen CB wise) wonder is Chris Herd would move to Brisbane? an experienced asian player at LB or attcking mid..

Re dobo's suggestion, a player than can play left wing, Fahid Ben Khalfallah is available and at 34 worth a one year contract. He did in the semi what Broich used to do for us in big games. Put in a cross for Bes to score. When they played up here last time, he was their best player.  I think he is better than Oar. Better than Arana. Not as magic as Thomas perhaps, but a good player. I just don't see that we have anyone else in the youth coming through to give us depth on the left and push Tommy Oar.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 03, 2017, 09:41:59 AM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit[/url])

Paddy Dominguez is such a wanker.  In another time he would have been selling dodgy watches in Kings Cross.

It is what it is.

Paddy was always gonna try and create as much hype about JMac as he could.

I'll be very interested to see where he goes. I personally would seriously consider playing another season at Brisbane. He's in serious Socceroos contention and there is definitely a risk in him going OS as he may not get the same amount of game time which would jeopardize his Socceroos chances.

Also what other Aussie clubs would be a chance to pick him up?
Victory - No.  Bes leads the line there
City - No. Fornaroli leads the line there
Perth - No, Sydney - No,. Adelaide or WSW - Maybe?
Jets, Nix & Mariners would not be in the picture considering their not really anywhere near the top of the league material.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 03, 2017, 10:07:57 AM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit[/url])

Paddy Dominguez is such a wanker.  In another time he would have been selling dodgy watches in Kings Cross.

It is what it is.

Paddy was always gonna try and create as much hype about JMac as he could.

I'll be very interested to see where he goes. I personally would seriously consider playing another season at Brisbane. He's in serious Socceroos contention and there is definitely a risk in him going OS as he may not get the same amount of game time which would jeopardize his Socceroos chances.

Also what other Aussie clubs would be a chance to pick him up?
Victory - No.  Bes leads the line there
City - No. Fornaroli leads the line there
Perth - No, Sydney - No,. Adelaide or WSW - Maybe?
Jets, Nix & Mariners would not be in the picture considering their not really anywhere near the top of the league material.


I think Adelaide will try to hold onto Diawara. WSW would be the only realistic A-League option as they have marquee spots free. If he isn't going there (or staying with us), it won't be the A-League.

I think there would also be a bit of a 'strike while the iron is hot' mentality from Jamie and Paddy. He has had two fantastic seasons in a row. He could take a chance and try to make it three, but if he doesn't pull it off, his value overseas would drop considerably.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 03, 2017, 10:41:14 AM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/02/europe-calls-maclaren-hastens-roar-exit[/url])

Paddy Dominguez is such a wanker.  In another time he would have been selling dodgy watches in Kings Cross.

It is what it is.

Paddy was always gonna try and create as much hype about JMac as he could.

I'll be very interested to see where he goes. I personally would seriously consider playing another season at Brisbane. He's in serious Socceroos contention and there is definitely a risk in him going OS as he may not get the same amount of game time which would jeopardize his Socceroos chances.

Also what other Aussie clubs would be a chance to pick him up?
Victory - No.  Bes leads the line there
City - No. Fornaroli leads the line there
Perth - No, Sydney - No,. Adelaide or WSW - Maybe?
Jets, Nix & Mariners would not be in the picture considering their not really anywhere near the top of the league material.


I think Adelaide will try to hold onto Diawara. WSW would be the only realistic A-League option as they have marquee spots free. If he isn't going there (or staying with us), it won't be the A-League.

I think there would also be a bit of a 'strike while the iron is hot' mentality from Jamie and Paddy. He has had two fantastic seasons in a row. He could take a chance and try to make it three, but if he doesn't pull it off, his value overseas would drop considerably.

If Macca stays with Roar he has a good chance of breaking into the Socceroos especially as the Socceroos don't really have an established first choice striker. If he does that, and if we make the World Cup in 2018, he is in a great place to show case his skills and kick on. The risk is that if he goes now which admittedly seems likely, he might end up with less game time.
I am sure that he will have learned from his time at Blackburn. And his family will no doubt be giving him good advice. On the other hand, if he listens to his agent who has a vested financial interest, then he is gone.
Technically I would think his contract is still active for a while,  so although the agent according to SBS is talking about decisions in the next two weeks, Macca should at least see if he gets a Socceroo selection for next month. And play and score against Ulsan in the meantime.  I assume he is training this week with the Roar. Anyone know?
With the agent, you have to assume a lot of what he says is straight from the car sales yard.......................If you want Macca you best be quick because he will be gone in the next two weeks sort of thing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 03, 2017, 11:03:29 AM
Ben Kalfalah will probably be asking too much for what we can offer. he was meant to have an automatic 1 year extension to his Victory contract but Vic have negotiated it out as it would have cost them too much. have heard that he is off to the Jets on pretty much the same contract as he is on at Vic so i doubt he will be an option.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 03, 2017, 11:04:11 AM
If he stays at the roar he'll resent it as a missed opportunity to go abroad. He should go now......but a wc with Australia makes playing it safe a decent idea.  The problem is he hasn't delivered for the socceroos at all ... so playing it safe may not work in his favour anyway.

Jamie has been great for us. But with him we at at most a counter attacking team. He can't score against a defended box. He can't even go 1v1 and create a scoring opportunity for himself. We need to find someone better.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 03, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
If he stays at the roar he'll resent it as a missed opportunity to go abroad. He should go now......but a wc with Australia makes playing it safe a decent idea.  The problem is he hasn't delivered for the socceroos at all ... so playing it safe may not work in his favour anyway.

Jamie has been great for us. But with him we at at most a counter attacking team. He can't score against a defended box. He can't even go 1v1 and create a scoring opportunity for himself. We need to find someone better.

His inability to beat a defender is a defining characteristic of his game.    As I noted earlier, he depends on other players to do the work. 

Personally I think Daggers will be a more dangerous player, and I hope he gets more time next season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 03, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
If he stays at the roar he'll resent it as a missed opportunity to go abroad. He should go now......but a wc with Australia makes playing it safe a decent idea.  The problem is he hasn't delivered for the socceroos at all ... so playing it safe may not work in his favour anyway.

Jamie has been great for us. But with him we at at most a counter attacking team. He can't score against a defended box. He can't even go 1v1 and create a scoring opportunity for himself. We need to find someone better.

His inability to beat a defender is a defining characteristic of his game.    As I noted earlier, he depends on other players to do the work. 

Personally I think Daggers will be a more dangerous player, and I hope he gets more time next season.
Macca is not the complete product but I think people are being harsh.
It is hard to be too critical with 20 goals per season.
In that semi final apart from the goal scored by Bes, there were a few other occasions where others created opportunities for him, off which he did not score.
Unfortunately, our mids failed to create much compared to the Victory midfield.
Macca was most proud of the goal he scored in the 1-0 win against Victory up here and that was an indication of his class.
I hope you are right about Daggers, although possibly he is shaping up as a number 10, and not a number 9 in our system. He is certainly confident in his ability. Hopefully we get to see a few more goals from him next season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 03, 2017, 03:15:46 PM
For mine, JMac's ability to score 40 goals in 53 Brisbane Roar A-League appearances trumps every single negative opinion he's being subjected to. The boy is simply special.

On comparison, Bes scored 34 goals in his first 53 appearances for us. Also to try and point out that Bes is a better finisher is not right. Don't forget that since Bes left Roar, he's had the likes of Khalfallah(sp), Rojas, Troisi, Barbarouses, Finkler, Ingham, Archie & Austin etc to help him to tick over 100 goals. Berisha most definitely hasn't been a one man band at Melbourne Victory!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 03, 2017, 03:30:57 PM
For mine, JMac's ability to score 40 goals in 53 Brisbane Roar A-League appearances trumps every single negative opinion he's being subjected to. The boy is simply special.

On comparison, Bes scored 34 goals in his first 53 appearances for us. Also to try and point out that Bes is a better finisher is not right. Don't forget that since Bes left Roar, he's had the likes of Khalfallah(sp), Rojas, Troisi, Barbarouses, Finkler, Ingham, Archie & Austin etc to help him to tick over 100 goals. Berisha most definitely hasn't been a one man band at Melbourne Victory!

Maclaren also has 52 shots on target (81 total), against Bes who had 34 (57 total). With more experience, Jamie will be converting a lot more of the chances he created. If he improved even slightly 1 on 1, he would have had a few more this season. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on May 03, 2017, 04:31:50 PM
Imagine if he had a head!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on May 03, 2017, 07:12:39 PM
Could be the cue for Yowie Dude.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 05, 2017, 10:44:54 AM
I don't think anyone is saying macca isn't a good player. Were just saying he has done his time and we should be happy that he is going off to challenge himself. There are areas he could be better that's for sure. His stats are good...but I don't like the long ball, counter style we are forced to play with him.  It's an opportunity for us with both Thomas and Macca gone to recruit two players that will compliment each other in attack. Aloisi will be free to change our style should he see fit. Although he was a poacher so our system will probably stay the same.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 05, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Yes there's definitely no guessing where we need to strengthen our squad big time:

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Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Yowie Dude on May 05, 2017, 02:05:24 PM
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Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Yowie Dude on May 05, 2017, 03:00:10 PM
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Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Yowie Dude on May 05, 2017, 03:49:05 PM
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Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 05, 2017, 03:55:34 PM
You need to get together with the David Squires bloke! lol
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 05, 2017, 06:48:54 PM
11 goals less then 15 16..... wow how did manage 3rd!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 07, 2017, 12:02:24 PM
Katebian has posted via his Instagram that he isn't getting another contract.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on May 08, 2017, 03:42:30 AM
Roar to farewell club legend Thomas Broich and sharpshooter Jamie Maclaren


May 7, 2017 11:55pm|
by Marco Monteverde|
Source: The Courier-Mail

THOMAS Broich and Jamie Maclaren will say goodbye to Brisbane Roar this week, but veteran goalkeeper Michael Theo has signed a new one-year deal with the three-time A-League champions.

While Theo won?t play in Brisbane?s season-ending AFC Champions League clash against Ulsan Hyundai on Wednesday night because of a knee injury, the 36-year-old gloveman will return in Roar colours for the club?s 2017-18 campaign.

Theo?s new deal will extend his Roar stay to an eighth season after he moved to Brisbane in 2010 following a forgettable stint with English club Norwich City.

Fan favourite Broich is embraced by fans.Fan favourite Broich is embraced by fans.Source: AAP
The five-time A-League title winner will face stiff opposition from Jamie Young, who has another year of his current deal to run, for the first-choice keeper?s spot.

The Roar hope former Greek international defender Avraam Papadopoulos and teenage midfielder Joe Caletti join Theo in re-committing to the club.

Both have been offered new deals, with the Roar confident of retaining both players.

It's also understood that midfielder Jacob Pepper will sign a new Brisbane contract.

Spanish import Manuel Arana will have clean-out surgery on his ankle on Thursday, with a decision to be made soon after on whether he remains a Roar player next season.

Joining club legend Broich and star striker Maclaren in leaving the club is young attacker Joey Katebian.

The 21-year-old forward, who joined the Roar from Melbourne Victory, played just 29 minutes of A-League football in his only season with Brisbane.

He won?t feature on Wednesday, having already departed the club.

The Roar have started their search for a striker next season to replace the prolific Maclaren, who is set to head to Europe.

Roar officials have promoted Wednesday night as the chance for supporters to say goodbye to 36-year-old Broich, who hopes to continue his career elsewhere after failing to be guaranteed a new contract by Brisbane coach John Aloisi.

Aloisi?s new Roar coaching contract will be finalised this week, with an announcement expected in time for the club?s presentation night on Saturday.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 08, 2017, 07:22:11 AM
Roar to farewell club legend Thomas Broich and sharpshooter Jamie Maclaren


May 7, 2017 11:55pm|
by Marco Monteverde|
Source: The Courier-Mail

THOMAS Broich and Jamie Maclaren will say goodbye to Brisbane Roar this week, but veteran goalkeeper Michael Theo has signed a new one-year deal with the three-time A-League champions.

While Theo won?t play in Brisbane?s season-ending AFC Champions League clash against Ulsan Hyundai on Wednesday night because of a knee injury, the 36-year-old gloveman will return in Roar colours for the club?s 2017-18 campaign.

Theo?s new deal will extend his Roar stay to an eighth season after he moved to Brisbane in 2010 following a forgettable stint with English club Norwich City.

Fan favourite Broich is embraced by fans.Fan favourite Broich is embraced by fans.Source: AAP
The five-time A-League title winner will face stiff opposition from Jamie Young, who has another year of his current deal to run, for the first-choice keeper?s spot.

The Roar hope former Greek international defender Avraam Papadopoulos and teenage midfielder Joe Caletti join Theo in re-committing to the club.

Both have been offered new deals, with the Roar confident of retaining both players.

It's also understood that midfielder Jacob Pepper will sign a new Brisbane contract.

Spanish import Manuel Arana will have clean-out surgery on his ankle on Thursday, with a decision to be made soon after on whether he remains a Roar player next season.

Joining club legend Broich and star striker Maclaren in leaving the club is young attacker Joey Katebian.

The 21-year-old forward, who joined the Roar from Melbourne Victory, played just 29 minutes of A-League football in his only season with Brisbane.

He won?t feature on Wednesday, having already departed the club.

The Roar have started their search for a striker next season to replace the prolific Maclaren, who is set to head to Europe.

Roar officials have promoted Wednesday night as the chance for supporters to say goodbye to 36-year-old Broich, who hopes to continue his career elsewhere after failing to be guaranteed a new contract by Brisbane coach John Aloisi.

Aloisi?s new Roar coaching contract will be finalised this week, with an announcement expected in time for the club?s presentation night on Saturday.

Hopefully both come very, very cheap. JA seems to be opposed to using all of our visa spots so I am not too concerned about Arana being a waste of a spot if it wasn't going to be used anyway.

Next season will be a huge test for the Aloisi's recruitment. If they can find an absolutely prolific striker who can mirror Maclaren's goal scoring record, it may save them. If we end up with someone like Kokko for the Jets, i'd say we will be seeing the lower end of the table and the Aloisi's being shown the door.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 08, 2017, 07:25:10 AM
Roar to farewell club legend Thomas Broich and sharpshooter Jamie Maclaren


May 7, 2017 11:55pm|
by Marco Monteverde|
Source: The Courier-Mail

THOMAS Broich and Jamie Maclaren will say goodbye to Brisbane Roar this week, but veteran goalkeeper Michael Theo has signed a new one-year deal with the three-time A-League champions.

While Theo won?t play in Brisbane?s season-ending AFC Champions League clash against Ulsan Hyundai on Wednesday night because of a knee injury, the 36-year-old gloveman will return in Roar colours for the club?s 2017-18 campaign.

Theo?s new deal will extend his Roar stay to an eighth season after he moved to Brisbane in 2010 following a forgettable stint with English club Norwich City.

Fan favourite Broich is embraced by fans.Fan favourite Broich is embraced by fans.Source: AAP
The five-time A-League title winner will face stiff opposition from Jamie Young, who has another year of his current deal to run, for the first-choice keeper?s spot.

The Roar hope former Greek international defender Avraam Papadopoulos and teenage midfielder Joe Caletti join Theo in re-committing to the club.

Both have been offered new deals, with the Roar confident of retaining both players.

It's also understood that midfielder Jacob Pepper will sign a new Brisbane contract.

Spanish import Manuel Arana will have clean-out surgery on his ankle on Thursday, with a decision to be made soon after on whether he remains a Roar player next season.

Joining club legend Broich and star striker Maclaren in leaving the club is young attacker Joey Katebian.

The 21-year-old forward, who joined the Roar from Melbourne Victory, played just 29 minutes of A-League football in his only season with Brisbane.

He won?t feature on Wednesday, having already departed the club.

The Roar have started their search for a striker next season to replace the prolific Maclaren, who is set to head to Europe.

Roar officials have promoted Wednesday night as the chance for supporters to say goodbye to 36-year-old Broich, who hopes to continue his career elsewhere after failing to be guaranteed a new contract by Brisbane coach John Aloisi.

Aloisi?s new Roar coaching contract will be finalised this week, with an announcement expected in time for the club?s presentation night on Saturday.

Hopefully both come very, very cheap. JA seems to be opposed to using all of our visa spots so I am not too concerned about Arana being a waste of a spot if it wasn't going to be used anyway.

Next season will be a huge test for the Aloisi's recruitment. If they can find an absolutely prolific striker who can mirror Maclaren's goal scoring record, it may save them. If we end up with someone like Kokko for the Jets, i'd say we will be seeing the lower end of the table and the Aloisi's being shown the door.
Baffling! Underwhelming! Frightening! Delusional!
What do you say? All of the above.
We lose the A League's best ever import from our midfield, having lost another useful midfielder mid season. And we are keeping Pepper and an injured Arana. Oh Dear! How Sad! never mind!
Real slapstick comedy.
Were the coaching staff watching the same games as me?
It is as well that we shore up the keeper and CM roles because sounds like we are in for a rough trot. Perhaps they have been watching Bozza's Hyundai promo. Let's get 11 goal keepers!
All I can say is that this new striker not only has to be a 20 goal a season finisher, he also has to be a helluva playmaker.
Good that we get to say goodbye one last time to Macca and Broich, although the WSW game was really it. This could be a real downer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: denzele on May 08, 2017, 08:11:05 AM
Pepper staying??? Oh dear god...
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 08, 2017, 08:55:41 AM
Pepper staying??? Oh dear god...
Re my comments on Arana the article said a decision is yet to be made. I have to admit that when I saw that I pressed the "Panic Now" button.
I would not expect Arana to be kept but the Pepper decision really has undermined my confidence.
We now have to hope that TK is kept  fully fit rendering the Pepper decision somewhat academic in the short term and hope that we still get a creative midfielder from somewhere (although we have to accept that the likes of Thomas come along once in a lifetime).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 08, 2017, 09:13:43 AM
Is anyone else concerned that we will be going into next season with largely an unimproved first XI? It wasn't good enough this season, so why would it be good enough next season?

Theo getting another contract, so the same battle continues between him and Young.

Our back four is pretty much sorted. The only thing left to determine is whether Avraam will sign a contract and likely pair with DeVere.

TK and McKay will pick themselves. I highly doubt JA will let one of our marquees sit on the bench, so Holman will start.

Borello should retain his RW starting spot and, as with Holman, our other marquee Oar will start on the LW. With that, a new forward is really the only open position for our starting XI.

I am hoping that big changes are made is with our bench. I am happy with either Young and Theo as the number 2. I think Caletti deserves a spot on the bench. Bowles can cover RB, CB and probably LB if needed, so I think he should be there. The last two bench positions need to go to players who can turn a game on it's head and I don't think we have those players in the squad at the moment. Hopefully JA can muster some magic and find two classy foreigners (a creative, goal scoring midfielder/free-kick specialist and one that can play across the front 3).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 08, 2017, 10:05:42 AM
At  the end of 2015-2016 my sense was that we were doing ok going forwards. We just needed to improve defensively this season.
49 scored. A woeful 40 conceded. Difference + 9.
I had a sense this season that defensively we had improved at the expense of goal scoring.
Brown really emerged as hugely improved compared to the previous season, TK looked better defensively than Corona. De Vere was reasonably solid, and Papa immense later on, Young settled in as a genuine contender between the sticks . etc etc.
When I compared the stats though it does not back that up.
In 2016-2017 we scored 43 which supports the fewer goals , but at the other end, still 37 conceded. +6.  Hardly a title winning defensive effort.
Whilst is is stating the bleeding obvious that we have a problem to replace both Macca and Thomas, we have a fair bit more to do defensively. 
Especially when you look at the likes of Sydney FC.
Is it personnel or tactics or a matter of inability through injury to field a settled team? Whatever, it still needs fixing.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 08, 2017, 10:46:58 AM
Another year fielding the same midfield players who were found wanting against top teams.... everything sides on who replaces broich and maclaren. Any mistakes there and we are mid table at best.

Arana and pepper are players who have not delivered high standards. Why keep them and block our youth! Pisses me off. JA needs to take chances!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 08, 2017, 11:45:04 AM
Another year fielding the same midfield players who were found wanting against top teams.... everything sides on who replaces broich and maclaren. Any mistakes there and we are mid table at best.

Arana and pepper are players who have not delivered high standards. Why keep them and block our youth! Pisses me off. JA needs to take chances!

my only thought is that they are both likely not to see much game time, are cheap and are reasonable depth players (ie not on the bench every week but can come into the bench if absolutely needed). You would have to think that Calettie has the bench spot wrapped up and will get more game time with Mckay ageing and needing rotation (as broich did this year). if we pick up a decent AM that can play across the front 3, one that can give Borrello, Oar and holeman a run for their money then Arana will also take up that depth spot. at the moment we are a mid table team, a prolific striker puts us in top 4 contention, a prolific striker and a quality AM puts us in title contention, not a bad place to be.


Especially when you look at the likes of Sydney FC.
Is it personnel or tactics or a matter of inability through injury to field a settled team? Whatever, it still needs fixing.

as was on display in the GF last night Sydney and Vic adopted tactics that broke up opposition play (persistent fouling) that was very successful. when you look player for player against our team i think it is really only Nicovic that stands well and truly above the quality we have in our team. Personally i would be really upset if we went down the same path of fouling, it really kills the game and makes for a terrible game to watch. hopefully with a bit of media pressure on the style of play we will see teams go back to a more watchable style
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 08, 2017, 12:28:58 PM
Defensively I think we have the right cattle so it's all about refinement and working together better tactically. In Hingert, Brown, DeVere, North, Papadopoulus, Bowles we have 6 guys that would start at pretty much any club. Keeper wise we're quite strong as well as both are very good. Connor O'Toole and Kye Rowles are in the wings too and will need to repay the faith or risk not being offered contracts at the end of next season.

In midfield we need more creativity. Kristensen, McKay and Caletti are hard workers but we won't be much of a threat if Holman is our only source of for killer passes and unlocking defenses. Oar in my mind isn't an option in there either as I see him more as a winger and someone who likes taking on opponents.
I'm not too concerned at Pepper being retained as cover for TK, McKay and Caletti either.

Up top we have Borrello and D'Agostino as currently our most potent weapons. Arana has not impressed and Brady still seems on the outer so JA has to concentrate seriously in this area. Can he find another JMac, Bes or Fornaroli somewhere?? That is the question. Add in a Troisi, Ninkovic type player and things will start looking more promising.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 08, 2017, 12:57:51 PM
Defensively I think we have the right cattle so it's all about refinement and working together better tactically. In Hingert, Brown, DeVere, North, Papadopoulus, Bowles we have 6 guys that would start at pretty much any club. Keeper wise we're quite strong as well as both are very good. Connor O'Toole and Kye Rowles are in the wings too and will need to repay the faith or risk not being offered contracts at the end of next season.

In midfield we need more creativity. Kristensen, McKay and Caletti are hard workers but we won't be much of a threat if Holman is our only source of for killer passes and unlocking defenses. Oar in my mind isn't an option in there either as I see him more as a winger and someone who likes taking on opponents.
I'm not too concerned at Pepper being retained as cover for TK, McKay and Caletti either.

Up top we have Borrello and D'Agostino as currently our most potent weapons. Arana has not impressed and Brady still seems on the outer so JA has to concentrate seriously in this area. Can he find another JMac, Bes or Fornaroli somewhere?? That is the question. Add in a Troisi, Ninkovic type player and things will start looking more promising.

I think the issue here is that this is asking Aloisi to find two top of the league, marquee-wage demanding players who will be able to fit in under the cap.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on May 08, 2017, 01:42:03 PM
Would have preferred we kept Broich for another year than keep Arana, I know who would be showing the more enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 08, 2017, 05:18:12 PM
Would have preferred we kept Broich for another year than keep Arana, I know who would be showing the more enthusiasm.

According to the A League website, there is some room under the Loyalty Player category where a Club can spend up to a collective $200,000 across any number of Players that have given 5 or more consecutive seasons of service to the Club.  A portion of a Loyalty Player?s contract value is excluded from the Salary Cap based on a progressive scale from 25% (5th continuous season) to 50% (10th continuous season onwards)   
Matty McKay does not qualify as he left and returned in 2013. As did Jade North. I can't think of anyone else except Theo and Thomas Broich who both came in 2010 giving them 7 years each, and Jack Hingert who came in 2011 giving him 6 years continuous service. So 35% of their salary can be ex cap as long as the total does not exceed the $200k.

Which makes the announcement of Theo's contract extension all the more puzzling given we have Jamie Young in the wings but no-one in the wings for Thomas Broich.
Of the three eligible players, you would have to think that Thomas Broich would be the one that most fits the intent of this exclusion and gain FFA approval. 

Here's the link. Am I missing something?
http://www.a-league.com.au/about (http://www.a-league.com.au/about)

JA said it is complicated, and it definitely is, but today's decision by Thomas that it is not worth playing on Wednesday is a strong indicator that something is not right.
I think the likelihood that Thomas will play for another A League club next year is a fair bit higher than I for one previously thought.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 09, 2017, 09:27:53 AM
Would have preferred we kept Broich for another year than keep Arana, I know who would be showing the more enthusiasm.

According to the A League website, there is some room under the Loyalty Player category where a Club can spend up to a collective $200,000 across any number of Players that have given 5 or more consecutive seasons of service to the Club.  A portion of a Loyalty Player?s contract value is excluded from the Salary Cap based on a progressive scale from 25% (5th continuous season) to 50% (10th continuous season onwards)   
Matty McKay does not qualify as he left and returned in 2013. As did Jade North. I can't think of anyone else except Theo and Thomas Broich who both came in 2010 giving them 7 years each, and Jack Hingert who came in 2011 giving him 6 years continuous service. So 35% of their salary can be ex cap as long as the total does not exceed the $200k.

Which makes the announcement of Theo's contract extension all the more puzzling given we have Jamie Young in the wings but no-one in the wings for Thomas Broich.
Of the three eligible players, you would have to think that Thomas Broich would be the one that most fits the intent of this exclusion and gain FFA approval. 

Here's the link. Am I missing something?
[url]http://www.a-league.com.au/about[/url] ([url]http://www.a-league.com.au/about[/url])

JA said it is complicated, and it definitely is, but today's decision by Thomas that it is not worth playing on Wednesday is a strong indicator that something is not right.
I think the likelihood that Thomas will play for another A League club next year is a fair bit higher than I for one previously thought.



I believe that this season we had all but maxed out 200k the home grown allowance with Theo and Hingert (meaning they were paid ~ $500k between them, sounds right). Next season im pretty sure North, Borrello and Mckay also become eligible for discount under that scheme. So im pretty sure there is already no more discount available, even if theo takes a large pay cut and is moved out of the discount scheme.

I am disappointed that Broich wont play out his days with us but it looks like Aloisi is trying to set us up to play a different style of football, that he just cant play with Broich in the team. I get the feeling that he is looking to play a high pressing, high tempo game (why not, it was extremely effective for SFC and Vic and at the start of the season City). As much as I love Broich you cant do that with both him and Holeman in the same team. Aloisi has earnt the right to try and implement his strategy, no doubt it is a complicated situation and will upset a few people, but i will give him the opportunity to try it. He has made his bed now, if it works then good on him he has made the right call, if it fails then it is his head on the chopping block (and might just open up the path for Broich to come back and take the head coach role)

EDIT:
well shit just seen that borrello is headed OS. that make recruitment harder. who are we going to go after in right wing,
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 09, 2017, 10:26:24 AM
Would have preferred we kept Broich for another year than keep Arana, I know who would be showing the more enthusiasm.

According to the A League website, there is some room under the Loyalty Player category where a Club can spend up to a collective $200,000 across any number of Players that have given 5 or more consecutive seasons of service to the Club.  A portion of a Loyalty Player?s contract value is excluded from the Salary Cap based on a progressive scale from 25% (5th continuous season) to 50% (10th continuous season onwards)   
Matty McKay does not qualify as he left and returned in 2013. As did Jade North. I can't think of anyone else except Theo and Thomas Broich who both came in 2010 giving them 7 years each, and Jack Hingert who came in 2011 giving him 6 years continuous service. So 35% of their salary can be ex cap as long as the total does not exceed the $200k.

Which makes the announcement of Theo's contract extension all the more puzzling given we have Jamie Young in the wings but no-one in the wings for Thomas Broich.
Of the three eligible players, you would have to think that Thomas Broich would be the one that most fits the intent of this exclusion and gain FFA approval. 

Here's the link. Am I missing something?
[url]http://www.a-league.com.au/about[/url] ([url]http://www.a-league.com.au/about[/url])

JA said it is complicated, and it definitely is, but today's decision by Thomas that it is not worth playing on Wednesday is a strong indicator that something is not right.
I think the likelihood that Thomas will play for another A League club next year is a fair bit higher than I for one previously thought.



I believe that this season we had all but maxed out 200k the home grown allowance with Theo and Hingert (meaning they were paid ~ $500k between them, sounds right). Next season im pretty sure North, Borrello and Mckay also become eligible for discount under that scheme. So im pretty sure there is already no more discount available, even if theo takes a large pay cut and is moved out of the discount scheme.

I am disappointed that Broich wont play out his days with us but it looks like Aloisi is trying to set us up to play a different style of football, that he just cant play with Broich in the team. I get the feeling that he is looking to play a high pressing, high tempo game (why not, it was extremely effective for SFC and Vic and at the start of the season City). As much as I love Broich you cant do that with both him and Holeman in the same team. Aloisi has earnt the right to try and implement his strategy, no doubt it is a complicated situation and will upset a few people, but i will give him the opportunity to try it. He has made his bed now, if it works then good on him he has made the right call, if it fails then it is his head on the chopping block (and might just open up the path for Broich to come back and take the head coach role)

EDIT:
well shit just seen that borrello is headed OS. that make recruitment harder. who are we going to go after in right wing,


Unfortunately, I think this may be why we are looking to re-sign Arana.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on May 09, 2017, 10:45:11 AM
I don't think Arana and high pressing and high tempo go together.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 09, 2017, 12:44:01 PM
From the Sydney FC Forum:

"Borello to 1860 Munich, fee of $450k apparently."
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on May 09, 2017, 01:28:24 PM
From the Sydney FC Forum:

"Borello to 1860 Munich, fee of $450k apparently."

Backed up by foxsports....http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/brandon-borrello-brisbane-roar-exit-21yearold-set-to-move-to-germany/news-story/0b88ee14d266849a55a97c3434c60d5b (http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/brandon-borrello-brisbane-roar-exit-21yearold-set-to-move-to-germany/news-story/0b88ee14d266849a55a97c3434c60d5b)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 09, 2017, 01:30:22 PM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/09/borrello-leave-brisbane-europe (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/09/borrello-leave-brisbane-europe)

The one thing I felt good about was keeping borello. Our future doesn't want to stay. Donachie. Jackson. Brattan. Geria. Now borello, the only decent young attacker left. We are in a really bad place atm. JA needs to do incredibly well now.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 09, 2017, 03:17:18 PM
There has been a pre-match media conference today apparently. In true Roar fashion, we don?t get information from the horse?s mouth. As in nothing on the official website.  I thought that was why we had an official website but what would I know?  Better to glean a bit from SBS, another bit from Fox, and other bit of info from somewhere else?.. Does Roar actually have a media officer?

This is what Joel Fruci from Outside 90 reported:

Brisbane Roar boss John Aloisi has offered updates on the futures of in-demand pair Brandon Borrello and Jamie Maclaren.
Both players have been linked with moves away from the Queensland club, particularly the latter.
News of a Brisbane departure for Borrello has only surfaced recently, with the winger linked with a move to the 2.Bundesliga.
Maclaren has been hotly rumoured to be transferring back overseas, four years after the 23-year-old departed Blackburn Rovers? youth setup.
Aloisi did not confirm Borrello?s exit when quizzed on the topic at Tuesday?s prematch media conference before Brisbane?s final Asian Champions League match against Ulsan Hyundai.
?I can?t confirm anything, but he (Borrello) is playing tomorrow night. He?s still a Brisbane Roar player,? he said of the 21-year-old.
?We?ve had a lot of interest in not only Brandon but a lot of our players, especially the younger players. That means we?re doing something right at this football club.?
Aloisi revealed he believes Maclaren will head back abroad, but that the striker is still unsure of exactly where he will end up.
?He?s said that he hasn?t got anything yet, so he hasn?t decided on where his future is. I think he?ll go overseas which we understand, we respect,? the coach explained.
 ?Hopefully he goes onto another level.?
When asked about potential replacements for the pair, Aloisi hinted the hunt for new faces had already begun.
?You always have to look ? we?ve been looking non-stop,? he said.
?Have we found a replacement for these players? Not yet. I?m sure that we will.?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 09, 2017, 05:06:40 PM
Hopefully robbie Keane isn't his answer! Nor shannon Cole.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 09, 2017, 05:30:11 PM
Jacob Pepper!  Oh, wait...
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 09, 2017, 05:30:46 PM
Borello could do well in Germany.  Good luck to him. He's going at a good age.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on May 09, 2017, 06:34:48 PM
Borello could do well in Germany.  Good luck to him. He's going at a good age.

Who do you reckon he will join in about 18 months: Victory or Sydney?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: denzele on May 09, 2017, 07:10:44 PM
Borello could do well in Germany.  Good luck to him. He's going at a good age.

Who do you reckon he will join in about 18 months: Victory or Sydney?
Definitely not coming back to Roar . That's for sure .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: cottonjaws on May 09, 2017, 07:17:33 PM
I wonder if Broich helped line up the Borello deal. Maybe that's why he is on the outer.

I really don't know what to think of JA and crew - I think Avraam and TK were very astute pick ups and a real credit to JA, but then I see Pepper and Theo being given extensions while we show Broich the door.

With Dimi, Borello, Broich and Maclaren gone it speaks to a complete revamp - who's next out the door McKay? Jamie Young?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on May 09, 2017, 07:48:33 PM
I'll guess Jamie Young!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 10, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
Thinking of Aus players in Germany and Ben Halloran and Kwame Yeboah come to mind. I wonder how those 2 boys are going.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 10, 2017, 04:07:33 PM
There has been a pre-match media conference today apparently. In true Roar fashion, we don?t get information from the horse?s mouth. As in nothing on the official website.  I thought that was why we had an official website but what would I know?  Better to glean a bit from SBS, another bit from Fox, and other bit of info from somewhere else?.. Does Roar actually have a media officer?

This is what Joel Fruci from Outside 90 reported:

Brisbane Roar boss John Aloisi has offered updates on the futures of in-demand pair Brandon Borrello and Jamie Maclaren.
Both players have been linked with moves away from the Queensland club, particularly the latter.
News of a Brisbane departure for Borrello has only surfaced recently, with the winger linked with a move to the 2.Bundesliga.
Maclaren has been hotly rumoured to be transferring back overseas, four years after the 23-year-old departed Blackburn Rovers? youth setup.
Aloisi did not confirm Borrello?s exit when quizzed on the topic at Tuesday?s prematch media conference before Brisbane?s final Asian Champions League match against Ulsan Hyundai.
?I can?t confirm anything, but he (Borrello) is playing tomorrow night. He?s still a Brisbane Roar player,? he said of the 21-year-old.
?We?ve had a lot of interest in not only Brandon but a lot of our players, especially the younger players. That means we?re doing something right at this football club.?
Aloisi revealed he believes Maclaren will head back abroad, but that the striker is still unsure of exactly where he will end up.
?He?s said that he hasn?t got anything yet, so he hasn?t decided on where his future is. I think he?ll go overseas which we understand, we respect,? the coach explained.
 ?Hopefully he goes onto another level.?
When asked about potential replacements for the pair, Aloisi hinted the hunt for new faces had already begun.
?You always have to look ? we?ve been looking non-stop,? he said.
?Have we found a replacement for these players? Not yet. I?m sure that we will.?

Here is a bit more from Phil Dillon. Published on The Satellite. It overlaps the above but has a few more quotes. It would be great  if Roar actually put the presser on Facebook or the web-site.
JA mentions Macca and TK as successful outcomes. No mention of Pepper, Arana or Hervas though as flops,  and I think that is what has most people worried about.  Will we get someone good or not? The resigning of Pepper was not encouraging. Here it is:

Brisbane Roar coach John Aloisi says the club is already on the hunt for new players as it prepares for its final game of the season - an Asian Champions League clash with Ulsan Hyundai at Suncorp Stadium tonight.
Striker Jamie Maclaren has already stated his intentions to move on, while yesterday there were reports suggesting fellow attacker Brandon Borrello was set to join a second-division German club.
Add that to the fact veteran Thomas Broich has played his last game for the Roar and it seems Aloisi will have a lot of work to do after tonight's clash.
But the former Socceroos striker said the wheels were already turning on potential replacements.
"You always have to look," Aloisi said.
"That's part of coaching. That's part of the salary cap.
"When halfway through the season you are thinking that players might move on, they might not be here next season, you already have to plan your cap and the players you can replace them with.
"We have been looking non-stop.
"Have we found a replacement for these players? Not yet. But I am sure that we will.
"Corona, who was our player of the season last year, left in a certain period in the off-season and we found Thomas Kristensen.
"I needed a striker in pre-season in the previous campaign and I found Jamie Maclaren, so there are players out there. It's just making sure they are the right fit for the team and the right fit for the football club and making sure we get that right.
"We won't rush into anything."
Aloisi would not confirm whether the rumours of Borrello's departure were true but said the fact he and a number of other players were on the radar of European clubs meant the Roar must be doing something right.
Skipper Matt McKay said it was important the season ended on a high note with a victory against the Korean outfit, which defeated the Roar 6-0 the last time the sides met. The Roar are out of contention to make the next round of the competition.
"You can call this game whatever you want but we are out there to win," he said.
"We want to end the season on a positive note.
"Like you have all been saying we have players leaving.
"We want the players who are staying to be in a positive mood going into the off-season, so when we arrive back early July for the start of pre-season we are ready and raring to go and making ourselves a better team come next season.
"So this is the start of next season for me."

I am not sure why the Quotes get changed into question marks around the text. Anyone know?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 10, 2017, 04:22:42 PM
**UPDATED WITH LATEST INFO**

Here's the list as of today 10th May 2017

Coming off contract:
Nathan Konstandopoulos - SCHOLARSHIP CONTRACT (Unknown what is happening)
Joe Caletti - Club hoping to re-sign
Avram Papadopoulos  - Club hoping to re-sign
Manuel Arana Rodriguez (Fgn) - Possible re-signing
Jacob Pepper - Looking to be re-signed
Jamie Maclaren - Looking to leave (OS)

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
16. Jade North
15. Matt McKay
14. Brett Holman
13. Nicholas D'Agostino
12. Connor O'Toole
11. Kye Rowles
10. Corey Brown
9. Jamie Young
8. Jack Hingert
7. Brandon Borrello - Possible OS Transfer
6. Thomas Oar
5. Daniel Bowles
4. Michael Theo

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
10/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia).
01/06/2016 - James Donachie - Released. Contract Expired. Melbourne Victory
03/05/2016 - Steven Lustica - Released. Contract Expired. Western Sydney Wanderers
03/05/2016 - Javier Hervas - Released. Contract Expired.
29/04/2016 - Shane Stefanutto - Retiring.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 10, 2017, 04:23:23 PM
Very interesting to realise how many players are coming off contract after next season!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: denzele on May 10, 2017, 09:22:48 PM
This is interesting. Reports that Mclaren and Borello will play together in Germany. FC Kaiserslautern apparently.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 11, 2017, 12:01:32 AM
2nd bundesliga a good move. My punt is Borello will be more successful of the two and will last the distance, just as leckie did. Maclaren i hope does well....just feel like he is limited system and position wise.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 11, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
For what it's worth, On Line Courier Mail (11/05) states the official situation is:

BRISBANE ROAR

Ins:

Outs:
Thomas Broich (unknown),
Brandon Borrello (FC Kaiserslautern),
Jamie Maclaren (reported: FC Kaiserslautern)

Off-contract:
Manuel Arana,
Joe Caletti,
Joseph Katebian,
Nathan Konstandopoulos,
Jacob Pepper,
Mark Rodic,
Michael Theo,
Avraam Papadopoulos

F ull Squad:
Michael Theo,
Luke DeVere,
Daniel Bowles,
Corey Brown,
Avraam Papadopoulos,
Thomas Kristensen,
Jacob Pepper,
Jamie Maclaren,
Brett Holman,
Tommy Oar,
Jade North,
Manuel Arana,
Nathan Konstandopoulos,
Matt McKay,
Jack Hingert,
Shannon Brady,
Jamie Young,
Kye Rowles,
Nick D?Agostino,
Joe Caletti,
Joey Katebian,
Tomislav Bilic,
Cameron Crestani,
Dane Ingham

Marquees: Brett Holman and Tommy Oar

I note Victory only have Bes as a marquee.  Rojas and Troisi fit under the cap. Yet Roar deem Holman and Oar (who are arguably not as good as Rojas and Troisi ) as marquees.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 11, 2017, 11:17:12 AM
For what it's worth, On Line Courier Mail (11/05) states the official situation is:

BRISBANE ROAR

Ins:

Outs:
Thomas Broich (unknown),
Brandon Borrello (FC Kaiserslautern),
Jamie Maclaren (reported: FC Kaiserslautern)

Off-contract:
Manuel Arana,
Joe Caletti,
Joseph Katebian,
Nathan Konstandopoulos,
Jacob Pepper,
Mark Rodic,
Michael Theo,
Avraam Papadopoulos

F ull Squad:
Michael Theo,
Luke DeVere,
Daniel Bowles,
Corey Brown,
Avraam Papadopoulos,
Thomas Kristensen,
Jacob Pepper,
Jamie Maclaren,
Brett Holman,
Tommy Oar,
Jade North,
Manuel Arana,
Nathan Konstandopoulos,
Matt McKay,
Jack Hingert,
Shannon Brady,
Jamie Young,
Kye Rowles,
Nick D?Agostino,
Joe Caletti,
Joey Katebian,
Tomislav Bilic,
Cameron Crestani,
Dane Ingham

Marquees: Brett Holman and Tommy Oar

I note Victory only have Bes as a marquee.  Rojas and Troisi fit under the cap. Yet Roar deem Holman and Oar (who are arguably not as good as Rojas and Troisi ) as marquees.

So of the off-contacts, I'd have Avraam and Caletti. The rest could go.

Regarding the marquee status, Troisi made it pretty clear earlier in the season that he would only re-sign with Victory if he was getting marquee wages (the were freed up when Bozanic left). I think it was also assumed that Rojas would go back overseas, but perhaps they will be able to fit him under the cap.

I am going to leave my judgement on Holman and Oar until they have had a full pre-season. Both certainly haven't been up to standard this season, but were brought in later, have had injuries and haven't owned their position (in Oar's case). Both have shown glimpses this season, so lets hope they can do it consistently next season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 11, 2017, 11:32:33 AM

Marquees: Brett Holman and Tommy Oar

I note Victory only have Bes as a marquee.  Rojas and Troisi fit under the cap. Yet Roar deem Holman and Oar (who are arguably not as good as Rojas and Troisi ) as marquees.

It is because we backended their contracts there was no way we were going to fit everyone in our squad under the cap this season (and the end of the season before) so Oar and Holeman play for very little this season and make up for it next season. really they probably average high cap wage players ~300-400k per season but probably played for 100k (assumption no actual knowledge) this season and 500-700k next season. with out doing that we would probably have had no chance of keeping Devere or signing Holeman at all. You could argue that we didnt really need either at the time, Dimi was playing decently in the AM role and Broich was still quality, we could have filled those back up roles with minimum wage youth, but we would have been bloody short in the attacking spots this season, and would be in a worse position right now looking to fill striker, LW, RW and AM with out and out first team players as well as (assuming we would then have kept broich next season as a bench player) RW, AM and an attacking player for bench roles, that is basically gutting the team and starting over.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 11, 2017, 12:18:14 PM

Marquees: Brett Holman and Tommy Oar

I note Victory only have Bes as a marquee.  Rojas and Troisi fit under the cap. Yet Roar deem Holman and Oar (who are arguably not as good as Rojas and Troisi ) as marquees.

It is because we backended their contracts there was no way we were going to fit everyone in our squad under the cap this season (and the end of the season before) so Oar and Holeman play for very little this season and make up for it next season. really they probably average high cap wage players ~300-400k per season but probably played for 100k (assumption no actual knowledge) this season and 500-700k next season. with out doing that we would probably have had no chance of keeping Devere or signing Holeman at all. You could argue that we didnt really need either at the time, Dimi was playing decently in the AM role and Broich was still quality, we could have filled those back up roles with minimum wage youth, but we would have been bloody short in the attacking spots this season, and would be in a worse position right now looking to fill striker, LW, RW and AM with out and out first team players as well as (assuming we would then have kept broich next season as a bench player) RW, AM and an attacking player for bench roles, that is basically gutting the team and starting over.
Yeah I agree with you. Backended deals can be difficult to measure the value of.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 11, 2017, 03:48:09 PM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 11, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 11, 2017, 08:07:42 PM
For what it's worth, On Line Courier Mail (11/05) states the official situation is:

BRISBANE ROAR

Ins:

Outs:
Thomas Broich (unknown),
Brandon Borrello (FC Kaiserslautern),
Jamie Maclaren (reported: FC Kaiserslautern)

Off-contract:
Manuel Arana,
Joe Caletti,
Joseph Katebian,
Nathan Konstandopoulos,
Jacob Pepper,
Mark Rodic,
Michael Theo,
Avraam Papadopoulos

F ull Squad:
Michael Theo,
Luke DeVere,
Daniel Bowles,
Corey Brown,
Avraam Papadopoulos,
Thomas Kristensen,
Jacob Pepper,
Jamie Maclaren,
Brett Holman,
Tommy Oar,
Jade North,
Manuel Arana,
Nathan Konstandopoulos,
Matt McKay,
Jack Hingert,
Shannon Brady,
Jamie Young,
Kye Rowles,
Nick D?Agostino,
Joe Caletti,
Joey Katebian,
Tomislav Bilic,
Cameron Crestani,
Dane Ingham

Marquees: Brett Holman and Tommy Oar

I note Victory only have Bes as a marquee.  Rojas and Troisi fit under the cap. Yet Roar deem Holman and Oar (who are arguably not as good as Rojas and Troisi ) as marquees.

So of the off-contacts, I'd have Avraam and Caletti. The rest could go.

Regarding the marquee status, Troisi made it pretty clear earlier in the season that he would only re-sign with Victory if he was getting marquee wages (the were freed up when Bozanic left). I think it was also assumed that Rojas would go back overseas, but perhaps they will be able to fit him under the cap.

I am going to leave my judgement on Holman and Oar until they have had a full pre-season. Both certainly haven't been up to standard this season, but were brought in later, have had injuries and haven't owned their position (in Oar's case). Both have shown glimpses this season, so lets hope they can do it consistently next season.

For me, Troisi is the most overrated player in the A League.  He regularly goes missing in games and could not hit the side a barn door while shooting.

Serious tickets on himself.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on May 11, 2017, 08:37:33 PM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 11, 2017, 08:54:20 PM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Thank OE. I recall that now. My memory is shot!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 12, 2017, 08:37:20 AM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Thank OE. I recall that now. My memory is shot!
The other obvious one that Speedy could be referring to is Arana.
But reading the CM today about Craig Moore off to South America for a right winger and a striker would suggest that Roar only intend replacing Borrello and Macca. I think they intend to keep Arana which almost seems now dependent on his medical situation.   Arana being jack of all trades and master of none. A paper tiger.
No replacement for Dimi although D'Aggers is coming into attack offers options. Not like for like, but promising.
It still leaves inadequate replacement for Broich even with Arana, Oar and  Holman, even if (and it's a big if) Craig Moore can find decent replacements for Borrello and Macca. Don't hold your breath.
I can't think of a time when a South American import came into the A League and emerged as a top striker in the 20 goal a season mould. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it would be a first.
Not to mention that even if we find a decent replacement for Borrello for the right, and even if Oar's form picks up on the left, when you then look at back up cover for those positions, we are severely lacking.
The two players competing for each spot idea has really gone out the door when it comes to the front three. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 12, 2017, 08:44:12 AM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Thank OE. I recall that now. My memory is shot!
The other obvious one that Speedy could be referring to is Arana.
But reading the CM today about Craig Moore off to South America for a right winger and a striker would suggest that Roar only intend replacing Borrello and Macca. I think they intend to keep Arana which almost seems now dependent on his medical situation.   Arana being jack of all trades and master of none. A paper tiger.
No replacement for Dimi although D'Aggers is coming into attack offers options. Not like for like, but promising.
It still leaves inadequate replacement for Broich even with Arana, Oar and  Holman, even if (and it's a big if) Craig Moore can find decent replacements for Borrello and Macca. Don't hold your breath.
I can't think of a time when a South American import came into the A League and emerged as a top striker in the 20 goal a season mould. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it would be a first.
Not to mention that even if we find a decent replacement for Borrello for the right, and even if Oar's form picks up on the left, when you then look at back up cover for those positions, we are severely lacking.
The two players competing for each spot idea has really gone out the door when it comes to the front three.

Bruno Fornaroli?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 12, 2017, 09:20:29 AM
Craig moore, a player famous for being a no frills cb, sacked by ange for his inability to change and most recently, the guy who put mates oar and holman on marquee contracts is recruiting players again from south America. His last roar funded holiday saw his sharp nuanced player recruitment brain unearth diego forlan as a potential acquisition. I wonder what dinosaur he'll unearth this time.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 12, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Thank OE. I recall that now. My memory is shot!
The other obvious one that Speedy could be referring to is Arana.
But reading the CM today about Craig Moore off to South America for a right winger and a striker would suggest that Roar only intend replacing Borrello and Macca. I think they intend to keep Arana which almost seems now dependent on his medical situation.   Arana being jack of all trades and master of none. A paper tiger.
No replacement for Dimi although D'Aggers is coming into attack offers options. Not like for like, but promising.
It still leaves inadequate replacement for Broich even with Arana, Oar and  Holman, even if (and it's a big if) Craig Moore can find decent replacements for Borrello and Macca. Don't hold your breath.
I can't think of a time when a South American import came into the A League and emerged as a top striker in the 20 goal a season mould. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it would be a first.
Not to mention that even if we find a decent replacement for Borrello for the right, and even if Oar's form picks up on the left, when you then look at back up cover for those positions, we are severely lacking.
The two players competing for each spot idea has really gone out the door when it comes to the front three.

Bruno Fornaroli?

that's the easy one, others that stand out (though arent strikers as such as) are Carlos Hernandez, Henrique and Finkler, all of which were pretty stand out players. Bobo came in and scored 15 this season without being on Pen duty, not a bad result. then you stat to get into the dregs Fabiano 30 games for 6 goals, Edson, Perez, Patrick.

I think we wil have a go at Hoole. His head clearly needs to be sorted out as he is a right knob at the moment and has way to big a head for his current output, but he is quick, has a decent touch and dribble and there is definitely potential in him. If JA can teach him how to score he would be a good bench player to push Oar and whoever replaces Borrello on the wing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 12, 2017, 10:14:24 AM
One area where we have an embarrassment of riches is at CB. Maybe there's one of those guys being looked at? We've got North, DeVere, Avraam (potentially), Bowles, Crestani and Rowles.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 12, 2017, 02:58:22 PM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Thank OE. I recall that now. My memory is shot!
The other obvious one that Speedy could be referring to is Arana.
But reading the CM today about Craig Moore off to South America for a right winger and a striker would suggest that Roar only intend replacing Borrello and Macca. I think they intend to keep Arana which almost seems now dependent on his medical situation.   Arana being jack of all trades and master of none. A paper tiger.
No replacement for Dimi although D'Aggers is coming into attack offers options. Not like for like, but promising.
It still leaves inadequate replacement for Broich even with Arana, Oar and  Holman, even if (and it's a big if) Craig Moore can find decent replacements for Borrello and Macca. Don't hold your breath.
I can't think of a time when a South American import came into the A League and emerged as a top striker in the 20 goal a season mould. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it would be a first.
Not to mention that even if we find a decent replacement for Borrello for the right, and even if Oar's form picks up on the left, when you then look at back up cover for those positions, we are severely lacking.
The two players competing for each spot idea has really gone out the door when it comes to the front three.

Bruno Fornaroli?
Totally forgot about him!
I think it's because he had a great first season but since people have got wise to his diving and octopus hands he seems to have dropped off the radar despite 17 goals in the A League. 
Or maybe it is just because I dislike him intensely as a player. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 12, 2017, 03:06:24 PM
Oh another thing that I remembered from last night is that Brenton Speed was banging on pre-game about rumours of another Roar player heading off but having no evidence and that Meredith should try and get some info from the Club. Well Nick did ask the question and all he apparently got back was the cold shoulder.
I was at the game so missed out on all that. Is that the reason Corey Brown did not play? I cant think of anyone else apart from JC.
Corey has a fractured jaw, obtained when contesting for the ball against one Besart Berisha.
Thank OE. I recall that now. My memory is shot!
The other obvious one that Speedy could be referring to is Arana.
But reading the CM today about Craig Moore off to South America for a right winger and a striker would suggest that Roar only intend replacing Borrello and Macca. I think they intend to keep Arana which almost seems now dependent on his medical situation.   Arana being jack of all trades and master of none. A paper tiger.
No replacement for Dimi although D'Aggers is coming into attack offers options. Not like for like, but promising.
It still leaves inadequate replacement for Broich even with Arana, Oar and  Holman, even if (and it's a big if) Craig Moore can find decent replacements for Borrello and Macca. Don't hold your breath.
I can't think of a time when a South American import came into the A League and emerged as a top striker in the 20 goal a season mould. Correct me if I am wrong but I think it would be a first.
Not to mention that even if we find a decent replacement for Borrello for the right, and even if Oar's form picks up on the left, when you then look at back up cover for those positions, we are severely lacking.
The two players competing for each spot idea has really gone out the door when it comes to the front three.

Bruno Fornaroli?

that's the easy one, others that stand out (though arent strikers as such as) are Carlos Hernandez, Henrique and Finkler, all of which were pretty stand out players. Bobo came in and scored 15 this season without being on Pen duty, not a bad result. then you stat to get into the dregs Fabiano 30 games for 6 goals, Edson, Perez, Patrick.

I think we wil have a go at Hoole. His head clearly needs to be sorted out as he is a right knob at the moment and has way to big a head for his current output, but he is quick, has a decent touch and dribble and there is definitely potential in him. If JA can teach him how to score he would be a good bench player to push Oar and whoever replaces Borrello on the wing.
I think Ernie Merrick would be good for Hoole, but if he does leave jets  and comes to us, I think he would do ok.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 13, 2017, 01:18:20 PM
A question for anyone who has been watching our youth team - are there any players who might be ready to step up next season?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 13, 2017, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: Chico Raul link=topic=9144.msg205572#msg205572
I think Ernie Merrick would be good for Hoole, but if he does leave jets  and comes to us, I think he would do ok.
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It was announced he was leaving along with a whole bunch of players last week
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 14, 2017, 12:10:37 PM
I just watched the interview with Thomas Broich from the gala night.
I have always been immensely impressed by Joe Caletti and his potential, but as a soccer tragic and as a rank amateur I except that my opinion counts for little. What do I know?
But hearing Thomas speak about JC and basically hand over his mantle to JC, coming from the greatest ever Roar player, I am encouraged that the club can move forwards.
As Thomas said to JC. It's over to you mate. No pressure.
I will rest a bit easier when it is confirmed that JC is signed up.
The off season is critical for JC in terms of strengthening physically and getting game time, and also for JA to find a way to use what JC brings to the side not just as understudy for Matty but in his own right.
And I will say again what I said last time. Ange seriously needs to be bringing JC into Socceroo camp for the experience. He really is that good. Take it from Thomas.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 14, 2017, 08:11:47 PM
Hope you're right. Obvious talent and imo should start ahead of mckay (sorry matt!) because with minutes, we can accelerate his growth.

He can be the glue in the middle, paired with a quality dm and an am with a big motor whom I'm praying JA can unearth.

His stature is surely a curse though? That said...Anyone notice his match up with valeri? Valeri tried to intimidate him and was very aggressive closing him down... yet jc just ignored it and played his passing game with confidence. Impressive stuff.

The dane looks like he is cooked for speed now.. next season might be one too many.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 15, 2017, 06:13:17 PM
Fox report that  Nathan Konstandopoulos and Cameron Crestani won?t be offered new contracts by the Roar.
A decision on Arana by end of the week
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 15, 2017, 08:47:22 PM
Fox report that  Nathan Konstandopoulos and Cameron Crestani won?t be offered new contracts by the Roar.
A decision on Arana by end of the week
Can't comment on Konstadopoulos as I didn't see much of him. Crestani had some very good and some very dodgy moments. I think over time he'll come good but yeah with North, Papa, DeVere, Bowles and Rowles on the books the club can't really justify a contract for him.

Hopefully Arana doesn't get another contract.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 15, 2017, 08:49:46 PM
So we drop 2 minimum wage kids and keep pepper?

Surely arana has to go?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 16, 2017, 11:39:36 AM
So we drop 2 minimum wage kids and keep pepper?

Surely arana has to go?
Also thinking that surely Broich would've been a better option than Arana..... Unless Broich pretty much didn't like the direction our team is taking and therefore pulled the pin before he knew he would start criticizing how JA and Co are moving the club, culture and tactics forward.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 16, 2017, 11:51:23 AM
I wonder when the next meeting between the members and club will happen.

It will be interesting, if it happens, to see how JA will justify the re-signing of two massively under performing players in Arana and Pepper.

I am sure he would talk about how they are really great players, put in a lot of work in training etc etc, as if the members don't actually watch the games and see how these players perform (or don't perform).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on May 16, 2017, 01:31:11 PM
So we drop 2 minimum wage kids and keep pepper?

Surely arana has to go?
Also thinking that surely Broich would've been a better option than Arana..... Unless Broich pretty much didn't like the direction our team is taking and therefore pulled the pin before he knew he would start criticizing how JA and Co are moving the club, culture and tactics forward.

I think the club pulled the pin on Broich Fin! He wanted to stay.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 16, 2017, 08:10:58 PM
I accept that I am well and truly in the minority, but the prospect of three years of the Aloisi brothers dismays me.

I know we finished third, but that game against Victory makes me shudder at just how far from being competitive we were.    I have a feeling that next year we are going to fall down the pecking order, just looking at the way other clubs are aggressively recruiting.

I look at our squad, and oh man.  I'm just not seeing much quality there at all.  If Caletti, good bless all 160 cms of him, it our great white hope in the midfield, we are in deep shit.  And that's not intending to denigrate the kid - it's just that to suggest he can replace Broich is, even just on physical terms, ridiculous.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 17, 2017, 06:25:26 AM
I accept that I am well and truly in the minority, but the prospect of three years of the Aloisi brothers dismays me.

I know we finished third, but that game against Victory makes me shudder at just how far from being competitive we were.    I have a feeling that next year we are going to fall down the pecking order, just looking at the way other clubs are aggressively recruiting.

I look at our squad, and oh man.  I'm just not seeing much quality there at all.  If Caletti, good bless all 160 cms of him, it our great white hope in the midfield, we are in deep shit.  And that's not intending to denigrate the kid - it's just that to suggest he can replace Broich is, even just on physical terms, ridiculous.
Some people will take a lot of encouragement from the Ulsan attacking performance performance and hope that by replacing the two stand outs in attack on the day we can remain competitive. I think that is JA's view. Personally I thought the performance was disjointed and we were far too slow in transition from defence to attack. I am adopting a wait and see attitude.
I am concerned about the age of the squad and thinking that next year will be another year of transition. I am expecting we do no worse as that is a given really, but not expecting more.
Regarding Victory, we were bullied rather than out played tactically and the referee played into this by keeping his cards in his pocket until late. Sydney also were on the receiving end of Muscat's brutal cynical scything approach in the final.  Sure it was a final, bodies on the line and all that, but it was over and above the line, and I don't want to see teams go down that path. So I think the officials have to do their job better.
JC is almost 10 centimeters shorter than Messi. So he is certainly small. But personally for me he is the best midfielder we have had since Broich came. The challenge is that it is hard to leave out Matty and TK (and he is a different player)  so how best to use him? The fast movement of the ball which is JC's trademark was what was lacking v Ulsan.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 17, 2017, 06:29:26 AM
Just seen Macca's instagram.
What a gentleman. Thank you Mr Mclaren. Take a bow.
Thanks for your goals which have lit up the past two seasons for us.
I will always remember the one v Victory. Under pressure from two players, receiving a bouncing ball, lobbing the keeper. Sensational.
Your record at Roar is up there with Bes, minus the histrionics.
Best wishes on the next stage and remember that when you return you are welcome in Brisbane.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 17, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
I accept that I am well and truly in the minority, but the prospect of three years of the Aloisi brothers dismays me.

I know we finished third, but that game against Victory makes me shudder at just how far from being competitive we were.    I have a feeling that next year we are going to fall down the pecking order, just looking at the way other clubs are aggressively recruiting.

I look at our squad, and oh man.  I'm just not seeing much quality there at all.  If Caletti, good bless all 160 cms of him, it our great white hope in the midfield, we are in deep shit.  And that's not intending to denigrate the kid - it's just that to suggest he can replace Broich is, even just on physical terms, ridiculous.

I dont know if you are in the minority re Aloisi, (perhaps you are and it is just a noisy minority). Personally I think he has done reasonably well, not fantastic but definitely has shown a huge step up since his Heart days and am willing to give him a chance at building his own team as he is right now.

Other teams are aggressively recruiting because they absolutely have to, Jets, CCM wanderers, perth have all had whole sale changes to their starting 11, the need to recruit lots of players to fill the voids, a lot of our work had already been done during the season (TK, North, Mckay, resigned and negotiations with Calettie and Papa started and well advanced). Aloisi has the luxury of already having 9 out and out starters ready with at least 2 quality bench players sorted, lots of foreign spots available and the focus on getting only 2 players (even if those 2 players are make or break for him, he doesnt need to rush into making any approaches or splashing cash to get players at over the odds as he has time at the moment)

you also have to remember that the victory game came on the back of a 120 minute beatem up knockem down game followed by travel to thailand and back, against a team that had had 2 weeks off to work on things and recover, all on the back of playing a tough season with the extra travel of the acl qualifiers and group games. we did ok not to be blown out of the water.

one thing that puts my mind at ease a bit with Aloisi is that the locker room mentality is still one of the best going around according to Macca. That was one of the big legacies of Ange, the team was one big family, everyone wanted to fight for one another, that makes a huge difference. Ive been in a divided lockeroom and performances are always bellow par.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 17, 2017, 10:17:10 AM
I accept that I am well and truly in the minority, but the prospect of three years of the Aloisi brothers dismays me.

I know we finished third, but that game against Victory makes me shudder at just how far from being competitive we were.    I have a feeling that next year we are going to fall down the pecking order, just looking at the way other clubs are aggressively recruiting.

I look at our squad, and oh man.  I'm just not seeing much quality there at all.  If Caletti, good bless all 160 cms of him, it our great white hope in the midfield, we are in deep shit.  And that's not intending to denigrate the kid - it's just that to suggest he can replace Broich is, even just on physical terms, ridiculous.

I dont know if you are in the minority re Aloisi, (perhaps you are and it is just a noisy minority). Personally I think he has done reasonably well, not fantastic but definitely has shown a huge step up since his Heart days and am willing to give him a chance at building his own team as he is right now.

Other teams are aggressively recruiting because they absolutely have to, Jets, CCM wanderers, perth have all had whole sale changes to their starting 11, the need to recruit lots of players to fill the voids, a lot of our work had already been done during the season (TK, North, Mckay, resigned and negotiations with Calettie and Papa started and well advanced). Aloisi has the luxury of already having 9 out and out starters ready with at least 2 quality bench players sorted, lots of foreign spots available and the focus on getting only 2 players (even if those 2 players are make or break for him, he doesnt need to rush into making any approaches or splashing cash to get players at over the odds as he has time at the moment)

you also have to remember that the victory game came on the back of a 120 minute beatem up knockem down game followed by travel to thailand and back, against a team that had had 2 weeks off to work on things and recover, all on the back of playing a tough season with the extra travel of the acl qualifiers and group games. we did ok not to be blown out of the water.

one thing that puts my mind at ease a bit with Aloisi is that the locker room mentality is still one of the best going around according to Macca. That was one of the big legacies of Ange, the team was one big family, everyone wanted to fight for one another, that makes a huge difference. Ive been in a divided lockeroom and performances are always bellow par.

I think it is important to note that Sydney FC are just trying to keep their XI together by re-signing existing players. They aren't recruiting outside of their own squad yet. I think of the other big name signings, none have come from outside of the A-League and all of them (except for O'Donovan, although he isn't really a big name) have been in positions we already have covered.

The only off-contract players that fits into the positions we really need (RW/FWD) would be Filip Holosko, but he was SFC's marquee last season and I believe wants to stay with them. No other big name strikers/wingers coming off contract from within the league.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 17, 2017, 11:33:20 AM
For JA I believe he will have the necessary talent on the books to challenge next season.

However his biggest step will be to improve (on the last 2 seasons) on the tactical and technical aspects of the squad on the whole. Teamwork, game management and defensive/offensive awareness are the areas we need improvement.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on May 17, 2017, 12:27:34 PM
I reckon for the owners we have, we have the team, playing and coaching, that we can afford. And for the league we are in, I think our owners are around average for reliability and involvement.
The worst owners have already gone, and even the best owners are unable to guarantee constant success. It seems the average gets you a position in the finals almost every year, whereas even the best owners can stuff up their coaching recruitment so that they end up out of contention.
For what its worth, my owners ranking, with no research but based purely on observation:

Victory
Sydney
Perth
Wanderers
CCM
Brisbane
Perth
Adelaide
Nix
Newcastle

Adelaide is so low mainly due to the way they have treated their fans and their lack of support for a championship winning coach. Newcastle are just coming out of a very bad period, so their ranking may rise sharply next year depending on what support Merrick gets. CCM had a bad year, following on from a worse year last year, but they are one of the most successful team over the history of the league and they're sure to bounce back under Okon.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 17, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
I would definitely have the CCM owner lower on the list mate.

The way he's (mis)handled the club since winning the title under Arnie is crazy. Yes Okon is a step in the right direction but really if he continues with the talk (like prior to last season) in regards to possibly playing a few games at North Sydney Oval etc I don't think he'll get the club back up towards the top end.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on May 17, 2017, 09:18:29 PM
I might put them under us, but it's just my feeling that they have it slightly better.
I can't see any justification for putting them under Perth, who haven't won a thing and persist with a 50s style manager who has great cattle working in a limited system; under Adelaide who finally seemed to be building momentum only for the owners fail to replace any of the players lost after the GF until the ACL was in sight; or under the other two for pretty self-explanatory reasons.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 17, 2017, 09:53:16 PM
George Blackwood is available and may be an option for Roar. Assuming Daggers is shaping as a 10 and putting pressure on Holman, we have no number 9. So even if we get someone from overseas, is George an option? JA seems to like the players with a young international pedigree?
The way we play, if JA gets an older player to replace Macca, he may want some younger legs as an option. Given JA wants 2 players pushing for a spot.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: cottonjaws on May 17, 2017, 11:49:34 PM
Ambivalent that Katebian has been released.
Disappointed to see Crestani and Konstandopolous released. Pleased Arana is gone.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: jamboree on May 18, 2017, 06:46:57 AM
I agree with comments about Blackwood from Sydney. Tall and strong. Arnie rates him. Could be a backup/sub for this season.
Harry Sawyer is another possibility. Ex-Roar youth. Big guy. We lacked a different dimension up front this year to mix things if plan A failed.

Corey gameiro is another attacking option. A big injury risk but young.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 18, 2017, 06:56:31 AM
I agree with comments about Blackwood from Sydney. Tall and strong. Arnie rates him. Could be a backup/sub for this season.
Harry Sawyer is another possibility. Ex-Roar youth. Big guy. We lacked a different dimension up front this year to mix things if plan A failed.

Corey gameiro is another attacking option. A big injury risk but young.
I think we need to look at these guys for sure.
Whatever people think of the quality of Arana and Katebian, the news confirms that the recruitment requirement is bigger than the two mentioned in the papers.
Given the sensible policy of two players for each position we are seriously down and have several gaps to fill.
 Having lost Broich, Arana, Borrello, Katebian and Mclaren, not to mention Dimi, our attacking stocks are Holman, D'Aggers, Oar and Brady. so we have to find at least 4 players.
- 10 Holman, D'Aggers
- RW (1), Brady
- Striker (2),(3)
- LW Oar, (4)
D'Aggers can back up as striker as well as Holman's role, but still leaves us short.
What is scary is how we are becoming very dependent on the wide players to swing in crosses as our main approach with a big loss of creativity elsewhere.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 18, 2017, 08:16:22 AM
I wonder if we would make a play for Sergio Cirio? Can play on the right wing or as a striker. He definitely had a disappointing last season, but overall has been pretty good for Adelaide. Also a bit older (32), but could do a job on a 1 year deal. Probably asking too much though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on May 18, 2017, 08:43:42 AM
I agree with comments about Blackwood from Sydney. Tall and strong. Arnie rates him. Could be a backup/sub for this season.
Harry Sawyer is another possibility. Ex-Roar youth. Big guy. We lacked a different dimension up front this year to mix things if plan A failed.

Corey gameiro is another attacking option. A big injury risk but young.
I'm not sold on Blackwood. Didn't see much of him, admittedly, but what I did see didn't catch my eye. Not sure he's any better than Katebian.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 18, 2017, 08:58:32 AM
I wonder if we would make a play for Sergio Cirio? Can play on the right wing or as a striker. He definitely had a disappointing last season, but overall has been pretty good for Adelaide. Also a bit older (32), but could do a job on a 1 year deal. Probably asking too much though.

I think he could be a good option as a back up, can definitely still change a game. Interesting that Fox Sports have an article at the moment saying Brisbane would be the ideal place for Holosko. RW that brings some creativity to the team would be good if we could pick him up cheap.

I have always like gamiero but back to back ACL's is worrying, i'd only take him if he took minimum wage.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 18, 2017, 09:07:48 AM
I don't know enough about George Blackwood but did note that Gombau has him in his U23 squad which suggests he is better than Katebian. I put his name out there because I noticed that he has not been signed up by Arnie, and JA seems to like players that have had involvement with the Australian International squads.

Cirio scored 20 goals for Adelaide and the pundits seem to rate him. He can play on the left and would be an option for us, but I am not sold on him either way as I probably never really watched him.

One of the things I did not understand about the communication from the club about going to South America is that my understanding is that in most places  football is a winter game. Australia is a bit of an exception as we have an established AFL and NRL.  So the Series A in Brazil for example just started. They are not in the off season. So what are the chances of picking up someone who is reasonable and also fit in South America?  Surely you would go to the northern hemisphere to look, or players from within Australia.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 18, 2017, 09:13:11 AM
I wonder if we would make a play for Sergio Cirio? Can play on the right wing or as a striker. He definitely had a disappointing last season, but overall has been pretty good for Adelaide. Also a bit older (32), but could do a job on a 1 year deal. Probably asking too much though.

I think he could be a good option as a back up, can definitely still change a game. Interesting that Fox Sports have an article at the moment saying Brisbane would be the ideal place for Holosko. RW that brings some creativity to the team would be good if we could pick him up cheap.

I have always like gamiero but back to back ACL's is worrying, i'd only take him if he took minimum wage.

Yes, it all comes down to money. By the sounds of things, Arana was on much more than he is worth. Surely with him, Borello, Maclaren, Broich and Dimi gone, we must have a reasonable amount of money to spend. I think Cirio would be a good pick up to play the role Arana played this season (although hopefully better) off the bench and Holosko would be a great pick up to replace Borello. I just can't see us affording him, however.

I think Gameiro would be a good option for the bench, but not much more than that. I would prefer him to Blackwood as he has proven he can score goals when not injured.
Will be interesting to see what the Aloisi's come back from South America with.

If we could have a bench of Theo, Bowles, Caletti, Gameiro and Cirio I think we would be going okay.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 18, 2017, 09:18:26 AM
I wonder if we would make a play for Sergio Cirio? Can play on the right wing or as a striker. He definitely had a disappointing last season, but overall has been pretty good for Adelaide. Also a bit older (32), but could do a job on a 1 year deal. Probably asking too much though.

I think he could be a good option as a back up, can definitely still change a game. Interesting that Fox Sports have an article at the moment saying Brisbane would be the ideal place for Holosko. RW that brings some creativity to the team would be good if we could pick him up cheap.

I have always like gamiero but back to back ACL's is worrying, i'd only take him if he took minimum wage.

Yes, it all comes down to money. By the sounds of things, Arana was on much more than he is worth. Surely with him, Borello, Maclaren, Broich and Dimi gone, we must have a reasonable amount of money to spend. I think Cirio would be a good pick up to play the role Arana played this season (although hopefully better) off the bench and Holosko would be a great pick up to replace Borello. I just can't see us affording him, however.

I think Gameiro would be a good option for the bench, but not much more than that. I would prefer him to Blackwood as he has proven he can score goals when not injured.
Will be interesting to see what the Aloisi's come back from South America with.

If we could have a bench of Theo, Bowles, Caletti, Gameiro and Cirio I think we would be going okay.
Another name to throw into the mix is Golgol Mebrahtu. He is playing in the Czech First League. I am not sure if he is contracted for next season. He scored 8 from 16 appearances. He played at Heart when JA was coach. He has just one international cap at U-23 and played up here with the Strikers and Gold Coast.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 18, 2017, 09:43:13 AM
One of the things I did not understand about the communication from the club about going to South America is that my understanding is that in most places  football is a winter game. Australia is a bit of an exception as we have an established AFL and NRL.  So the Series A in Brazil for example just started. They are not in the off season. So what are the chances of picking up someone who is reasonable and also fit in South America?  Surely you would go to the northern hemisphere to look, or players from within Australia.

Sounds like you should be recruiting, not Craig moore.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 18, 2017, 09:47:42 AM
Holosko will be 34 in Jan!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 18, 2017, 12:28:43 PM
*UPDATED*
Here's the list as of today 18th May 2017

Coming off contract:
Joe Caletti - Club hoping to re-sign
Avram Papadopoulos  - Club hoping to re-sign
Jacob Pepper - Looking to be re-signed

Under contract currently:
Brandon Borrello - Looking for Transfer to OS

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
15. Jade North
14. Matt McKay
13. Brett Holman
12. Nicholas D'Agostino
11. Connor O'Toole
10. Kye Rowles
9. Corey Brown
8. Jamie Young
7. Jack Hingert
6. Thomas Oar
5. Daniel Bowles
4. Michael Theo

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
16/06/2016 - Henrique - Released. Contract Expired. Negeri Sembilan (Malaysia)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 18, 2017, 12:32:23 PM
So if the club re-signs Avraam, Pepper and Caletti it means we'd be up to 18 players. 5 remaining openings including 4 foreign spots (IF the A-League continues with the 5 foreign player rule).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 18, 2017, 01:01:58 PM
So if the club re-signs Avraam, Pepper and Caletti it means we'd be up to 18 players. 5 remaining openings including 4 foreign spots (IF the A-League continues with the 5 foreign player rule).

I know the club is working to re-sign Avraam, but I don't see how it will work having four starting quality CBs. Obviously we are in the play offs again for ACL, but there will be a lot of money either riding the bench or not even in the squad.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 18, 2017, 01:42:34 PM
So if the club re-signs Avraam, Pepper and Caletti it means we'd be up to 18 players. 5 remaining openings including 4 foreign spots (IF the A-League continues with the 5 foreign player rule).

I know the club is working to re-sign Avraam, but I don't see how it will work having four starting quality CBs. Obviously we are in the play offs again for ACL, but there will be a lot of money either riding the bench or not even in the squad.
I'm thinking both Bowles and Rowles will be seen as utilities who can play CB but also cover for RB and LB respectively. O'Toole is also a LB option when fit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 18, 2017, 02:38:52 PM
So if the club re-signs Avraam, Pepper and Caletti it means we'd be up to 18 players. 5 remaining openings including 4 foreign spots (IF the A-League continues with the 5 foreign player rule).

I know the club is working to re-sign Avraam, but I don't see how it will work having four starting quality CBs. Obviously we are in the play offs again for ACL, but there will be a lot of money either riding the bench or not even in the squad.

I dont think Bowles is quite starting quality (or ever will be) he is a good utility and can do a very good job when he comes in but i would not want to be relying on him to start and play a majority of games (he is also RB cover), so that only leaves 3 CB's. North will be 36 in January and although looked like he could (and wanted to) run out pretty much every game this season a rotation policy will do a world of good, particularly with ACL. Bowles wont be on huge money as he signed his extension when he was really a fringe player, Given Norths age he also wont be on a huge deal (one year contracts), and we will only sign Pappa if it makes sense financially (ie cheaply), i think the club has done very good business at the back, Hingert, Brown, Devere, North and Papa would all start in every other A-league side and none command a huge salary (apart from maybe devere)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 18, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
So if the club re-signs Avraam, Pepper and Caletti it means we'd be up to 18 players. 5 remaining openings including 4 foreign spots (IF the A-League continues with the 5 foreign player rule).

I know the club is working to re-sign Avraam, but I don't see how it will work having four starting quality CBs. Obviously we are in the play offs again for ACL, but there will be a lot of money either riding the bench or not even in the squad.

I dont think Bowles is quite starting quality (or ever will be) he is a good utility and can do a very good job when he comes in but i would not want to be relying on him to start and play a majority of games (he is also RB cover), so that only leaves 3 CB's. North will be 36 in January and although looked like he could (and wanted to) run out pretty much every game this season a rotation policy will do a world of good, particularly with ACL. Bowles wont be on huge money as he signed his extension when he was really a fringe player, Given Norths age he also wont be on a huge deal (one year contracts), and we will only sign Pappa if it makes sense financially (ie cheaply), i think the club has done very good business at the back, Hingert, Brown, Devere, North and Papa would all start in every other A-league side and none command a huge salary (apart from maybe devere)
A year ago the first JA signing in the off season was Connor O'Toole and Kye Rowles. I thought Rowles was a left back and O'Toole a CM. So that in an additional CB.
I recollect that Bowles' recovery was expected to take a year so my guess is we will be operating with Papa, De Vere and Jado.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 19, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
I have just watched the interview with Thomas Broich on Facebook organised by the Supporters Federation and recommend it to anyone who has not seen it or who like myself was not invited along.
It was very insightful. Particularly comments around his decision to go / Roar's decision not to make resigning him a priority. But a whole lot more.
I noted his comment about the need to play more one touch two touch and move the ball quickly.  This is exactly what JC brings to the game and something which Roar really need to improve on. We are still thinking about structures when actions should be automatic.
It was a great Q&A session.
I applaud the suggestion that we retire the number 22 jersey which is something I have been thinking about too.
I will miss Thomas big time.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 19, 2017, 05:49:04 PM
Macca going to SV Darmstadt
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dsfarrell on May 19, 2017, 07:57:11 PM
Chico Raul,    All fans and members were invited.   They just could only take 100 people, so first in.   I dont think anyone was personally invited.,
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 20, 2017, 09:02:14 AM
Chico Raul,    All fans and members were invited.   They just could only take 100 people, so first in.   I dont think anyone was personally invited.,
So how did people get to know this was happening?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: kb55 on May 20, 2017, 09:22:42 AM
The Broich event was organised by Roar Supporters Federation. The communicate via their Facebook page.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 20, 2017, 01:19:07 PM
The Broich event was organised by Roar Supporters Federation. The communicate via their Facebook page.
Thanks.
Which explains it.
I don't use Facebook.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on May 20, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
Kruse is in Brisbane. Visited Bayside United today according to their facebook feed.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 20, 2017, 10:11:49 PM
Kruse is in Brisbane. Visited Bayside United today according to their facebook feed.

not surprising, im pretty sure his family is still here. JA would be silly not to at least have a coffee with him and see where his head is at
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 21, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
Kruse is in Brisbane. Visited Bayside United today according to their facebook feed.

not surprising, im pretty sure his family is still here. JA would be silly not to at least have a coffee with him and see where his head is at
No surprise that he is in town being a Brisbane boy, but I would not read any more into it.
Some Roar people are not fans of Robbie but personally I am a huge fan. When he was in Dussledorf  I went to watch him train and had a chat with him afterwards. Unfortunately I could not see him play as I had to fly home.  I  would love for him to play at Roar again.
I guess an obvious choice for him though is Victory although with Rojas and also Ingham I am not sure there is a vacancy.
Hopefully someone at Roar is talking to him.
Given his injury issues, a stint back in the A League maybe just the thing for him to get back to where he was. Fewer games, longer preseason. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on May 22, 2017, 03:04:49 AM
Interesting to read some of the suggested transfer targets - mebrahtu, gameiro, blackwood etc. I personally dont think we are that desperate to take any of these. If we were to take anyone I'd say Cirio for sure. I also see that Scott McDonald is now a free agent and he would be a wise signing - proven goalscorer - Although Alsoisi would have to change his tactuics cause I dont think Scott would be a "Over The Top" chaser type like McLaren was. (Game against Victory still pisses me off).

So, I think Cirio and McDonald would be good for us.

Also, I think daggers needs more of an opportunity. He is an out and out no 9 that can play as a 10. He is a proven Goalscorer and I think if he doesnt get game time we may lose him and a few of the other promising youngsters we have which really is a concern as they play/played second fiddle to the likes of Arana and Pepper.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 22, 2017, 09:46:31 AM
Interesting to read some of the suggested transfer targets - mebrahtu, gameiro, blackwood etc. I personally dont think we are that desperate to take any of these. If we were to take anyone I'd say Cirio for sure. I also see that Scott McDonald is now a free agent and he would be a wise signing - proven goalscorer - Although Alsoisi would have to change his tactuics cause I dont think Scott would be a "Over The Top" chaser type like McLaren was. (Game against Victory still pisses me off).

So, I think Cirio and McDonald would be good for us.

Also, I think daggers needs more of an opportunity. He is an out and out no 9 that can play as a 10. He is a proven Goalscorer and I think if he doesnt get game time we may lose him and a few of the other promising youngsters we have which really is a concern as they play/played second fiddle to the likes of Arana and Pepper.


I quite like Cirio but he is a left winger (something that we probably dont really need) and from memory is quite ineffective when on the right.

I said it a couple of weeks ago that i think we will make a play for Mcdonald, i think it will be down to either us or WSW, as they tried to get him in January but failed. I think he would be a good option for us even though he has been playing more as a second striker.

re: daggers, i think he would be happy how this season has gone, he got plenty of opportunities with the first team (particularly in the ACL) As a 19 year old he has pretty much cemented his bench spot and should push on from here. I disagree with you on a couple of points though, I think he looked much better as a 10 than a 9. he looked lost when he had to lead the line and i think he should focus on getting minutes as number 10. As an extension of this i dont think he is (yet) a proven goal scorer at this level. he shows potential to be one but 2 goals in the A-league (against a 10 man NEWC and a late goal in a 5-1 drubbing of CCM) does not make him a proven goal scorer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 23, 2017, 07:44:42 AM
SBS reports that rumours link  Holosko with Brisbane, or possibly back to Europe to play.
I would think it is no more than SBS or somebody joining dots. But you never know.
All rumours, smoke and mirrors.

Update:
Holosko scored 18 in 52 appearances. 7 goals and 8 assists last season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 24, 2017, 02:34:18 PM
Has borello officially left?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: JiMMM on May 24, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
The rumour on the 442 forums is that we are announcing a new player signing on Friday, anyone heard any whispers on who it is.

I am just hoping it's not Holosko.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 24, 2017, 04:22:32 PM
The rumour on the 442 forums is that we are announcing a new player signing on Friday, anyone heard any whispers on who it is.

I am just hoping it's not Holosko.
I am not close enough to the centre to know, but others may be. I have been hoping to hear that JC is signed; plus Papa. Could it be one of these or is it truly someone new?
442 has a piece on McDonald. No mention of Brisbane though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Paolo on May 24, 2017, 04:50:28 PM
I havent got a clue on what the announcement is going to be but Holosko can be useful. He has been here long enough to be able to maximise his skills. If used in the correct way he wouldnt be any worse than many we have had before.. he would give us an aerial presence we havent had before and many are longing for..
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 24, 2017, 06:24:58 PM
We can and should do better then Holosko. Do we really need another 34 yo on the pitch next year.  If he was a cb yeah sure...but a rw?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 25, 2017, 07:24:47 AM
We can and should do better then Holosko. Do we really need another 34 yo on the pitch next year.  If he was a cb yeah sure...but a rw?

Obviously age is an issue, but if we can find a RW that can produce 7 goals and 8 assists next season I will be ecstatic, especially considering Borello only managed 4 goals and 3 assists.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 25, 2017, 09:31:31 AM
The rumour on the 442 forums is that we are announcing a new player signing on Friday, anyone heard any whispers on who it is.

I am just hoping it's not Holosko.

wild speculation time isn't it fun, it's times like this that we need someone like Franjic to leak who we are signing.

The timing links up with Mcdonald, announced a couple of days ago that he has left Motherwell, a day or so to pack up and get on a plane to Brisbane for medical and contract signing. Surely Holeman, Aloisi and Moore know him well enough to get him here.

could be Kruze, he is in town and looking for a club. lets hope it is someone decent
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on May 25, 2017, 09:58:50 AM
The rumour on the 442 forums is that we are announcing a new player signing on Friday, anyone heard any whispers on who it is.

I am just hoping it's not Holosko.

wild speculation time isn't it fun, it's times like this that we need someone like Franjic to leak who we are signing.

The timing links up with Mcdonald, announced a couple of days ago that he has left Motherwell, a day or so to pack up and get on a plane to Brisbane for medical and contract signing. Surely Holeman, Aloisi and Moore know him well enough to get him here.

could be Kruze, he is in town and looking for a club. lets hope it is someone decent

Would be hilarious if Craig Moore and the Aloisi's went to South America to find some stars and came back with Scott McDonald and Robbie Kruse.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 25, 2017, 10:36:36 AM
The rumour on the 442 forums is that we are announcing a new player signing on Friday, anyone heard any whispers on who it is.

I am just hoping it's not Holosko.

wild speculation time isn't it fun, it's times like this that we need someone like Franjic to leak who we are signing.

The timing links up with Mcdonald, announced a couple of days ago that he has left Motherwell, a day or so to pack up and get on a plane to Brisbane for medical and contract signing. Surely Holeman, Aloisi and Moore know him well enough to get him here.

could be Kruze, he is in town and looking for a club. lets hope it is someone decent

Would be hilarious if Craig Moore and the Aloisi's went to South America to find some stars and came back with Scott McDonald and Robbie Kruse.

Great.  Another ESP - Extremely Short Player.  John Aloisi in drag as Snow White.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 25, 2017, 11:50:37 AM
The rumour on the 442 forums is that we are announcing a new player signing on Friday, anyone heard any whispers on who it is.

I am just hoping it's not Holosko.

wild speculation time isn't it fun, it's times like this that we need someone like Franjic to leak who we are signing.

The timing links up with Mcdonald, announced a couple of days ago that he has left Motherwell, a day or so to pack up and get on a plane to Brisbane for medical and contract signing. Surely Holeman, Aloisi and Moore know him well enough to get him here.

could be Kruze, he is in town and looking for a club. lets hope it is someone decent

Would be hilarious if Craig Moore and the Aloisi's went to South America to find some stars and came back with Scott McDonald and Robbie Kruse.

Great.  Another ESP - Extremely Short Player.  John Aloisi in drag as Snow White.
I am not sure how the  A League compares with the Scottish Premiership as far as standards, but McDonald got 11 goals in 40 games.
I would think if you take Celtic out of the mix, the standard would not be that high. 11 out of 40 is way below the bar set by Macca.
And he got about a quarter of the goals at Motherwell this season, so was not exactly dominating the score sheet. And he has been let go!
McDonald worked hard for the Socceroos but got zero goals in 26 appearances. And that was in his prime.
Should we be excited or alarmed?
Nothing against ESPs per se, but would Macca MK II be as quick and industrious as Macca MK I?
Note quite a Kurtisi coming in for Bes situation, but I am not convinced about Macca Mk II.
All I can say is, we better tighten up that defence, because we only got six more than we let in during last season.
We need to be scoring more and conceding less.
I think JA and CM should keep looking but I am not convinced that South America is the place, although they may see some good games.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 25, 2017, 02:07:11 PM
On the goals conceded issue, we have two good CBs and a top class DM.  So where do the problems lie? Only two places to go - left back and right back.  Brown, while improved, would struggle to start for any other A League team.  Hingert gets big wraps from some, but for me he's a marginal A League player. His inability to cross the ball with any quality or consistency is inexcusable for a full time pro footballer.

In my view, to really improve in defence we need more quality than either of our fullbacks offer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 25, 2017, 03:24:41 PM
On the goals conceded issue, we have two good CBs and a top class DM.  So where do the problems lie? Only two places to go - left back and right back.  Brown, while improved, would struggle to start for any other A League team.  Hingert gets big wraps from some, but for me he's a marginal A League player. His inability to cross the ball with any quality or consistency is inexcusable for a full time pro footballer.

In my view, to really improve in defence we need more quality than either of our fullbacks offer.
Hadn't really given this much thought but I think you make a very good argument.

You'd pick Stefanutto and Franjic over Brown and Hingert every day of the week and twice on Sundays. That being said, are there reasonable options out there though?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on May 25, 2017, 04:15:37 PM
On the goals conceded issue, we have two good CBs and a top class DM.  So where do the problems lie? Only two places to go - left back and right back.  Brown, while improved, would struggle to start for any other A League team.  Hingert gets big wraps from some, but for me he's a marginal A League player. His inability to cross the ball with any quality or consistency is inexcusable for a full time pro footballer.

In my view, to really improve in defence we need more quality than either of our fullbacks offer.
On the goals conceded issue, we have two good CBs and a top class DM.  So where do the problems lie? Only two places to go - left back and right back.  Brown, while improved, would struggle to start for any other A League team.  Hingert gets big wraps from some, but for me he's a marginal A League player. His inability to cross the ball with any quality or consistency is inexcusable for a full time pro footballer.

In my view, to really improve in defence we need more quality than either of our fullbacks offer.

Brown has improved this year and he has age on his side . Hingert however, is nearly 27 and won't get much better. He is average at best and often poor .He gets caught ball watching a lot instead of picking up his man. I agree his crossing is also poor . Not sure if he has any assist's but I imagine not many would be from crosses.
Having said all that ....it depends on how much he is being paid...I imagine it is difficult for coaches to go out and spend on fullbacks so you take what you can get with the money left in the cap.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on May 25, 2017, 06:13:47 PM
On the goals conceded issue, we have two good CBs and a top class DM.  So where do the problems lie? Only two places to go - left back and right back.  Brown, while improved, would struggle to start for any other A League team.  Hingert gets big wraps from some, but for me he's a marginal A League player. His inability to cross the ball with any quality or consistency is inexcusable for a full time pro footballer.

In my view, to really improve in defence we need more quality than either of our fullbacks offer.

true we have 3 very good CB's and DM who would all pretty much start with any a-league team. I dont agree that Brown and Hingert are to blame for our poor defensive record. Personally i think they are both above average for the league (they are not definitely not the grant and zullo partnership but ability wise i think they are above average) i think what has set apart SFC's defensive set up and ours is the tactics, both us and SFC like to push their left and right backs forward at every chance they get, but when we lose possession we are often exploited down our left and right sides, partly because of where we lose the ball (in the midfield line) when our FB's have push beyond the ball. we are then a little naive, letting teams play quickly to the wings pulling our CB's out of shape.

SFC typically lose the ball in the striker line with the FB's still behind the ball, giving them more of a chance to recover as well as their well known tactics of fouling the opposition to slow play down when players are out of position. Personally i was really frustrated with this sort of tactic this season. I see it as anti football. and realy kills the flow of games.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 25, 2017, 08:01:38 PM
If we had players who could actually hold the ball in the opposition half we have to do less defending and would most probably concede less. Plus, TK isn't suited to defending counters from a high line...he tires too quickly.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on May 25, 2017, 08:21:51 PM
I think the goals against us came from errors in midfield. Losing the ball too close to our penalty box and giving the centres and keeper too little time to put up a proper defence.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 26, 2017, 01:49:36 PM
Interesting to note:

Goals Conceded in 2016/17 regular season:
Sydney - 12
Victory - 31
Roar - 37
City - 44
Perth - 53
Wanderers - 35
Phoenix - 46
Mariners - 52
Adelaide - 46
Jets - 53

Goals Scored in 2016/17 regular season::
Sydney - 55
Perth - 53
Victory/City - 49
Roar - 43
Phoenix - 41
Wanderers - 35
Mariners - 31
Jets - 28
Adelaide -25
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 26, 2017, 03:51:50 PM
So basically our defense us the entire reason we finished 3rd.

Imo with the offense we had we over achieved massively.

The stats suggest we had a strong year. I just wish we played more entertaining football.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: JiMMM on May 26, 2017, 03:55:25 PM
Signing was FBK, should be good provided he gels with the squad.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on May 26, 2017, 03:55:26 PM
Alfalfa signed.
Not entirely unhappy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on May 26, 2017, 05:35:32 PM
Alfalfa signed.
Not entirely unhappy.
Not a bad player, when he's playing football, but I really hate his antics....and another left winger. Hope JA has a plan for the right!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 26, 2017, 06:03:39 PM
Wow! Rapt! Excellent signing!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on May 29, 2017, 07:43:05 PM
Still waiting to hear about Caletti and Papadopoulos re-signing, pretty quiet so far.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 30, 2017, 12:16:22 PM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 30th May 2017

Coming off contract:
Joe Caletti - Club hoping to re-sign
Avram Papadopoulos  - Club hoping to re-sign
Jacob Pepper - Looking to be re-signed

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
16. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
15. Jade North
14. Matt McKay
13. Brett Holman
12. Nicholas D'Agostino
11. Connor O'Toole
10. Kye Rowles
9. Corey Brown
8. Jamie Young
7. Jack Hingert
6. Thomas Oar
5. Daniel Bowles
4. Michael Theo

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
15/08/2016 - Jerome Polenz - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
15/07/2016 - Corona - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 30, 2017, 12:16:56 PM
Interesting that there's been no news in relation to how much the club made on the Borrello transfer.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 30, 2017, 01:57:15 PM
Interesting that there's been no news in relation to how much the club made on the Borrello transfer.
I hope it covers the ridiculous $17,000 ACL fine for not giving their officials a cup of tea.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on May 30, 2017, 02:14:20 PM
Interesting that there's been no news in relation to how much the club made on the Borrello transfer.
I hope it covers the ridiculous $17,000 ACL fine for not giving their officials a cup of tea.
From Twitter: "Around 350k fee then another 100k in appearances plus a percentage of future on sell fees (rumoured)"
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on May 31, 2017, 11:42:00 AM
Interesting that there's been no news in relation to how much the club made on the Borrello transfer.
I hope it covers the ridiculous $17,000 ACL fine for not giving their officials a cup of tea.
From Twitter: "Around 350k fee then another 100k in appearances plus a percentage of future on sell fees (rumoured)"
Sydney Morning Herald report that Roar have yet more fines as follows:
Brisbane Roar will appeal a hefty fine from the Asian Football Confederation for not providing "international buffet style" meals for a group of travelling Champions League match officials.
But the AFC has refuted claims from Roar managing director Mark Kingsman that they were sanctioned because the six-man delegation was unable to eat lobster twice a day, accusing the club of a lack of respect for the competition's strict regulations.
It is Brisbane's fifth such indiscretion this year alone, with the club having been slugged $US58,000 ($A77,679) in total by the AFC.
They were previously penalised $US25,000 for not covering the naming rights signage outside Suncorp Stadium at the AFC's request, while coach John Aloisi's failure to attend a flash interview after a match in Korea cost him and the club $US10,000 each.
The latest fines, issued last week, stem from April's home clash against Kashima Antlers.
The Roar were penalised $US3000 for letting two photographers onto the field of play without authorisation, and fined 20 per cent of their $US50,000 match subsidy for not providing officials with adequate meals as stipulated by AFC rules.
That equates to $US10,000 - the same amount Muangthong were fined for the dodgy goalpost that Brisbane goalkeeper Jamie Young ripped his arm open on last month.
"They had lobster at night, they just didn't have it at lunch time," Kingsman told AAP.
"The disappointing thing is the fact they could only have lobster once a day, they consider that as serious as Jamie Young coming away with 26 stitches.
"That's a big concern. Where are their priorities?"
An AFC spokesperson said Kingsman's lobster allegation was "not consistent with either the facts nor the evidence" submitted to the AFC disciplinary and ethics committee.
"The club has regularly breached the AFC competition regulations despite attending the annual AFC club competitions workshop where the regulations are presented in detail," the spokesperson said.
"The AFC has not had to issue a fine for not providing appropriate meals to the match officials before."
The other two Australian participants in the Champions League this year, Adelaide United and Western Sydney, have largely played within the rules.
Adelaide's only blemish was an automatic $US1500 fine for incurring five yellow cards in one match, while the Wanderers were reported for a violation of AFC regulations when a smoke bomb was let off by the crowd in their home match against Shanghai SIPG on May 10.
The Roar is also appealing Aloisi's fine, with Kingsman insisting they were told by officials he wasn't required for a post-match interview.
However, the Roar will have to pay the other $US10,000 as their intention to appeal the club's fine was lodged four days too late.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 31, 2017, 12:09:14 PM
I struggle to believe Kingsman.  All this smacks of the same kind of administrative incompetence that has dogged the club pretty much since the start of the A League.

I'm so over the Brisbane Roar admin circus.  Kingsman would be better off shutting up and focussing on doing his job better.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on May 31, 2017, 12:55:23 PM
I struggle to believe Kingsman.  All this smacks of the same kind of administrative incompetence that has dogged the club pretty much since the start of the A League.

I'm so over the Brisbane Roar admin circus.  Kingsman would be better off shutting up and focussing on doing his job better.


This is rediculous incompetence! And they want our membership money?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on May 31, 2017, 01:55:33 PM
Wow can't believe this shit.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on May 31, 2017, 04:50:20 PM
Ok, I'm going to say this now. I have reached the point where if a well run second club came in, I would consider jumping ship.  This bullshit is just endless from Brisbane Roar admin.

Look the litany of breaches.  How hard is it to get this stuff right?  I despair of this club ever being run properly. I don't believe Kingsman for a moment.  You don't cop a 50k fine for not serving lobster twice a day.  Complete bullshit.

So depressing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on June 01, 2017, 06:18:42 PM
Reports today that Ross has signed a three year deal with Roar. Wasn't John's deal just two years?
Ross will also be a Socceroo scout at the Federations Cup. Not sure how that works.
Also reports that Roar have settled with Mike Mulvey out of court.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on June 01, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
Thought the MM thing was done. Trying to forget that debacle.

I'm kind of hoping we don't qualify for the ACL now.... agree we need less administration drama
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on June 01, 2017, 06:52:14 PM
Reports today that Ross has signed a three year deal with Roar. Wasn't John's deal just two years?
Ross will also be a Socceroo scout at the Federations Cup. Not sure how that works.
Also reports that Roar have settled with Mike Mulvey out of court.

No Johns was 3 years as well. Cant separate those two!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on June 27, 2017, 07:59:59 AM
So
Outs
Macca, Rowles, Broich, Borrello, Oar, Arana, Crestani, Katebian, Konstandopolous
Resigned
Papa, Theo, Pepper?
Off contract
Caletti
Ins
FBK
......................... and training starts next week Thursday ?? ..................... and this was supposed to be a better off season than the last three??
One would hope that at least we keep Caletti and Ingham. surely?
But it is damned quiet.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on June 27, 2017, 01:20:39 PM
So
Outs
Macca, Rowles, Broich, Borrello, Oar, Arana, Crestani, Katebian, Konstandopolous
Resigned
Papa, Theo, Pepper?
Off contract
Caletti
Ins
FBK
......................... and training starts next week Thursday ?? ..................... and this was supposed to be a better off season than the last three??
One would hope that at least we keep Caletti and Ingham. surely?
But it is damned quiet.
On Vince Rugari's twitter feed someone raised the possibility of Jack going to Perth. Anyone know if anything in it?
Why would Jack go to Perth? Surely this is just fake news and mischief making.
Nichols for sure. But not Jack.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on June 27, 2017, 02:06:09 PM
Pepper has been re-signed
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on June 27, 2017, 03:23:04 PM
So
Outs
Macca, Rowles, Broich, Borrello, Oar, Arana, Crestani, Katebian, Konstandopolous
Resigned
Papa, Theo, Pepper?
Off contract
Caletti
Ins
FBK
......................... and training starts next week Thursday ?? ..................... and this was supposed to be a better off season than the last three??
One would hope that at least we keep Caletti and Ingham. surely?
But it is damned quiet.

I recall when asked about when signings would happen, JA gave the example of Corona being signed quite late on and then being one of our best that season. Surely he knows that was pretty bloody lucky and isn't at all the norm?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on June 27, 2017, 06:35:45 PM
So
Outs
Macca, Rowles, Broich, Borrello, Oar, Arana, Crestani, Katebian, Konstandopolous
Resigned
Papa, Theo, Pepper?
Off contract
Caletti
Ins
FBK
......................... and training starts next week Thursday ?? ..................... and this was supposed to be a better off season than the last three??
One would hope that at least we keep Caletti and Ingham. surely?
But it is damned quiet.

I recall when asked about when signings would happen, JA gave the example of Corona being signed quite late on and then being one of our best that season. Surely he knows that was pretty bloody lucky and isn't at all the norm?
At the time of Corona coming in I recall there were major issues with finance and the Bakries. So is that still the case?
And Hervas was the last one in and that turned out not very well.
It would seem that JA has quite a number of vacancies and it would seem foolhardy to wait until the last moment.
Surely by now we would be hearing about some promotions of youth players into the senior squad also.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on June 27, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
Quite a lot of the youth players have moved to VPL , Pennata , Prasad and Kim to name a few .
Our youth stocks a pretty low ATM , 15yr olds playing in the npl team .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 28, 2017, 10:09:02 AM
**UPDATED**
Here's the list as of today 28th June 2017

Coming off contract:
Joe Caletti - Club hoping to re-sign
Jacob Pepper - Looking to be re-signed

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
15. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
14. Jade North
13. Matt McKay
12. Brett Holman
11. Nicholas D'Agostino
10. Connor O'Toole
9. Corey Brown
8. Jamie Young
7. Jack Hingert
6. Daniel Bowles
5. Michael Theo
4. Avram Papadopoulos

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on June 28, 2017, 10:52:43 AM
So i'd assume Pepper is being re-signed, and hopefully Caletti is. That gives us 17 players with 3 more needed to make up the minimum squad number. I'd think JA would be a bit of a moron to try and keep it to the minimum squad size with us potentially having ACL again.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 28, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
So i'd assume Pepper is being re-signed, and hopefully Caletti is. That gives us 17 players with 3 more needed to make up the minimum squad number. I'd think JA would be a bit of a moron to try and keep it to the minimum squad size with us potentially having ACL again.
I suppose it can depend a bit upon who from the Youth/NPL side could possibly come in an do a job if required. Eg. Crestani last season.

That being said we do desperately need to bring in some quality to be competitive this coming season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on June 28, 2017, 11:22:32 AM
Hearing that Ingam might be going to Nix
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 28, 2017, 11:41:09 AM
Hearing that Ingam might be going to Nix
Well he's not on contract as yet. Not even sure if he was on a "Youth" one or was getting paid per game ala Crestani.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on June 28, 2017, 02:14:23 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on June 28, 2017, 05:15:41 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.

I'm traditionally worried pre season since Ange left, but I'm REALLY worried this time.  I have no faith in either Aloisi and the news that they have brought Mad Dog Tiatto into the coaching fold dismays me.

We have one marquee who is well past his best, an old squad and we've lost our two best young players with no replacements in sight.

I hate what's happened to the club between the Bakries and Aloisis, I really do.  The admin is a circus and the football is going south.  We have zero promising young players coming through the ranks.  Why do we have a youth team? Answer: to supply other clubs with players.

Seriously, another Brisbane club would make me consider my allegiance.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on June 28, 2017, 05:17:39 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.

I'm traditionally worried pre season since Ange left, but I'm REALLY worried this time.  I have no faith in either Aloisi and the news that they have brought Mad Dog Tiatto into the coaching fold dismays me.
Cranky Franky would complete the set...any odds on that?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on June 28, 2017, 05:21:07 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.

I'm traditionally worried pre season since Ange left, but I'm REALLY worried this time.  I have no faith in either Aloisi and the news that they have brought Mad Dog Tiatto into the coaching fold dismays me.

We have one marquee who is well past his best, an old squad and we've lost our two best young players with no replacements in sight.

I hate what's happened to the club between the Bakries and Aloisis, I really do.  The admin is a circus and the football is going south.  We have zero promising young players coming through the ranks.  Why do we have a youth team? Answer: to supply other clubs with players.

Seriously, another Brisbane club would make me consider my allegiance.

Not quite zero - I rate Daggers highly.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on June 28, 2017, 10:46:10 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.

I'm traditionally worried pre season since Ange left, but I'm REALLY worried this time.  I have no faith in either Aloisi and the news that they have brought Mad Dog Tiatto into the coaching fold dismays me.

We have one marquee who is well past his best, an old squad and we've lost our two best young players with no replacements in sight.

I hate what's happened to the club between the Bakries and Aloisis, I really do.  The admin is a circus and the football is going south.  We have zero promising young players coming through the ranks.  Why do we have a youth team? Answer: to supply other clubs with players.

Seriously, another Brisbane club would make me consider my allegiance.

Not quite zero - I rate Daggers highly.

Maybe you should relax and leave the recruiting, training and game preparation to the experts , every season we seem to discover a few more gems , this year may prove to be the same .
Got to support club through the good and bad times .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 29, 2017, 10:13:26 AM
For each of the last 2 pre-seasons we've had massive issues with player payments, facilities etc etc.

Here's hoping with less distractions coming into the new season we'll be able to do well.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on June 29, 2017, 05:10:59 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.

I'm traditionally worried pre season since Ange left, but I'm REALLY worried this time.  I have no faith in either Aloisi and the news that they have brought Mad Dog Tiatto into the coaching fold dismays me.

We have one marquee who is well past his best, an old squad and we've lost our two best young players with no replacements in sight.

I hate what's happened to the club between the Bakries and Aloisis, I really do.  The admin is a circus and the football is going south.  We have zero promising young players coming through the ranks.  Why do we have a youth team? Answer: to supply other clubs with players.

Seriously, another Brisbane club would make me consider my allegiance.

Not quite zero - I rate Daggers highly.

Maybe you should relax and leave the recruiting, training and game preparation to the experts , every season we seem to discover a few more gems , this year may prove to be the same .
Got to support club through the good and bad times .

Well, I have no other option, really. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on June 30, 2017, 01:52:51 PM
Pepper and Caletti have re-signed.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 30, 2017, 02:32:03 PM
Half good news.. lol

Ok Caletti is a great signing.
I'm guessing Pepper must be a good player to have the club in more ways than just on the pitch (as in good leader behind the scenes, strong character/trainer etc). Otherwise I don't understand why JA would keep him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 30, 2017, 02:33:33 PM
**UPDATED**

Here's the list as of today 30th June 2017

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
17. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
16. Jade North
15. Matt McKay
14. Brett Holman
13. Nicholas D'Agostino
12. Connor O'Toole
11. Corey Brown
10. Jamie Young
9. Jack Hingert
8. Daniel Bowles
7. Michael Theo
6. Avram Papadopoulos
5. Jacob Pepper
4. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 30, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
We've got a shitload of players coming off contract next season!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on June 30, 2017, 02:47:17 PM
We've got a shitload of players coming off contract next season!

this is probably on purpose (both from the players and the club). the salary cap will be again revisited next season, the players likely will want slightly more and the club will likely want to negotiate better terms.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 30, 2017, 02:52:10 PM
We've got a shitload of players coming off contract next season!

this is probably on purpose (both from the players and the club). the salary cap will be again revisited next season, the players likely will want slightly more and the club will likely want to negotiate better terms.
True.

Plus the likes of McKay, Theo, North and Holman are closing in on retirement.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on June 30, 2017, 03:08:50 PM
Very relieved that Caletti is on board.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on June 30, 2017, 03:52:40 PM
+1.

Do we get a new strip this year?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on June 30, 2017, 04:06:16 PM
+1.

Do we get a new strip this year?
I thought I read somewhere that Mark Kingsman stated that we'd be playing in the same kit as last season. Can't confirm though..
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on June 30, 2017, 07:03:56 PM
Any news on prospective signings?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on June 30, 2017, 08:40:30 PM
Half good news.. lol

Ok Caletti is a great signing.
I'm guessing Pepper must be a good player to have the club in more ways than just on the pitch (as in good leader behind the scenes, strong character/trainer etc). Otherwise I don't understand why JA would keep him.

He's keeping him because "he's cheap and a good bloke".
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: suspectandy on June 30, 2017, 10:58:24 PM
Pepper is a waste of space.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 01, 2017, 07:14:11 AM
Half good news.. lol

Ok Caletti is a great signing.
I'm guessing Pepper must be a good player to have the club in more ways than just on the pitch (as in good leader behind the scenes, strong character/trainer etc). Otherwise I don't understand why JA would keep him.

He's keeping him because "he's cheap and a good bloke".
He adds spice to the lineup.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on July 01, 2017, 08:45:41 AM
So you reckon he is worth his salt?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on July 01, 2017, 05:13:48 PM
That would be right, let another young bloke with potential go to another club.

Won't be surprised to hear that Caletti is going elsewhere too.

I'm traditionally worried pre season since Ange left, but I'm REALLY worried this time.  I have no faith in either Aloisi and the news that they have brought Mad Dog Tiatto into the coaching fold dismays me.

We have one marquee who is well past his best, an old squad and we've lost our two best young players with no replacements in sight.

I hate what's happened to the club between the Bakries and Aloisis, I really do.  The admin is a circus and the football is going south.  We have zero promising young players coming through the ranks.  Why do we have a youth team? Answer: to supply other clubs with players.

Seriously, another Brisbane club would make me consider my allegiance.

Totally agree Coast, perhaps without the changing allegiance bit though!
In fact I have relinquished my membership this year due to my disgust with the management group and their decisions and direction.
I could handle the poor showing of owners over the years but I f#*king hate nepotism and "boys clubs", which is what's happened to my team. Tiatto's appointment was the final straw for me. Just ask yourselves was he appointed due to his talent or because he is a mate of theirs?
I've supported the club from season 1 through thick and thin but I'm no mug!
Until another Ange comes along and cleans out this group I'll be a much less active supporter.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 03, 2017, 10:29:28 AM
Rumor has it that we may be signing Corey Gameiro.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on July 03, 2017, 10:32:29 AM
I didn't renew either. Largely because of travel but regardless of that, I don't like the way we played football last year.  JA prove me wrong please.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 03, 2017, 10:38:17 AM
Rumor has it that we may be signing Corey Gameiro.

Would be happy with that.  He's been so unlucky.  Wherever he goes, I hope it works for him. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 03, 2017, 10:40:46 AM
I didn't renew either. Largely because of travel but regardless of that, I don't like the way we played football last year.  JA prove me wrong please.

I hoped for JA to prove me wrong last year, and he didn't.  I'm hoping again this year, but it's not much of a hope.  Much less now that Tiatto is on board.  The guy was a mongrel of a player and, as I recall, part of the boys drinking club, along with Miller and Moore, that Ange got rid of. How ironic that Moore and Tiatto are now there again. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 03, 2017, 10:43:37 AM
Rumor has it that we may be signing Corey Gameiro.

Would be happy with that.  He's been so unlucky.  Wherever he goes, I hope it works for him. 
Hopefully his body holds up if we do sign him. I'd imagine he'd be fairly cheap. As a back up it might be worth the shot.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 03, 2017, 11:18:33 AM
Rumor has it that we may be signing Corey Gameiro.

Would be happy with that.  He's been so unlucky.  Wherever he goes, I hope it works for him. 
Hopefully his body holds up if we do sign him. I'd imagine he'd be fairly cheap. As a back up it might be worth the shot.

He'd have to be on minimum wage or close to it. The guy is such a huge risk. Even if he is signed as a backup, there is a risk he gets injured and we have to rely on a single striker for the entire season.

Is there any reason why we can't invest the time Corey would get into Daggers? Seems less of a risk and I would prefer to invest in up and coming youth already at the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 03, 2017, 11:19:47 AM
Rumor has it that we may be signing Corey Gameiro.

Would be happy with that.  He's been so unlucky.  Wherever he goes, I hope it works for him. 
Hopefully his body holds up if we do sign him. I'd imagine he'd be fairly cheap. As a back up it might be worth the shot.
His ACL injury was in September so good to hear that he is looking for a comeback. I really hope it works out for him wherever.
He has always received positive plaudits although he is by no means a prolific goal scorer. Although did well with the Australian Under 20s.
Good to hear some news that Brisbane is in the hunt for players even if just a rumour.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on July 03, 2017, 11:41:33 AM

He'd have to be on minimum wage or close to it. The guy is such a huge risk. Even if he is signed as a backup, there is a risk he gets injured and we have to rely on a single striker for the entire season.

Is there any reason why we can't invest the time Corey would get into Daggers? Seems less of a risk and I would prefer to invest in up and coming youth already at the club.

they play different roles (or at least i think JA sees them in different roles) Daggers looks best in the #10 role rather than an out and out striker or right winger where Corey looks best. I dont think they would be cannibalising each others game time. Daggers will be coming on for holeman,  gameiro would come on for the striker or for the right winger.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 03, 2017, 04:39:13 PM
Gamiero is very, very fast.  I reckon he's been signed as a winger.

Last time I saw him play his pace was exceptional.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 04, 2017, 07:53:23 AM
Gamiero confirmed: http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/breaking-news-attacker-corey-gameiro-signs-o/1kvzwykfkoy131e1vr67so5vlt (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/breaking-news-attacker-corey-gameiro-signs-o/1kvzwykfkoy131e1vr67so5vlt)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 04, 2017, 09:35:48 AM
Gamiero confirmed: [url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/breaking-news-attacker-corey-gameiro-signs-o/1kvzwykfkoy131e1vr67so5vlt[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/breaking-news-attacker-corey-gameiro-signs-o/1kvzwykfkoy131e1vr67so5vlt[/url])

This young man has had so many set backs and you feel for him and want this to work out.
If he can come out of these challenges stronger then it really could turn out to be an inspired move for Roar and for him.
He will not be coming to make up the numbers. At 24, he will be striving to be the first choice right wing.
Whether or not JA will continue to look for a Borrello replacement or whether he thinks he has found it, remains to be seen.
My main concern with Gameiro is his lack of goals. The article mentions that he hopes to benefit from JA's tutelage. I hope so too.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on July 04, 2017, 09:45:42 AM
They forgot to mention 3 knee reconstructions with the last one being on September 2016

I hope for his sake it doesn't reoccur
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 04, 2017, 09:57:41 AM
Honestly, if JA has signed him as a first choice RW he is out of his mind. Obviously hope the guy does well and pushes for a first spot, but way too much of a risk to be signed as a starter. He should also be very cheap, meaning we should still have a lot of money to sign someone less risky/with more experience.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 04, 2017, 11:27:17 AM
Honestly, if JA has signed him as a first choice RW he is out of his mind. Obviously hope the guy does well and pushes for a first spot, but way too much of a risk to be signed as a starter. He should also be very cheap, meaning we should still have a lot of money to sign someone less risky/with more experience.
If Corey can take this opportunity and if he can recover fully, here is a taste of what he offers:
https://twitter.com/ALFlashbacks/status/801200985599143939 (https://twitter.com/ALFlashbacks/status/801200985599143939)
Great diagonal run. Great finish.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 04, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
I don't believe JA would be hedging his bets and planning that Gameiro is a certain starter. Corey needs to resurrect his career and JA is giving him that chance. If he can take it then both the club and player will reap the rewards.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 04, 2017, 11:53:45 AM
Honestly, if JA has signed him as a first choice RW he is out of his mind. Obviously hope the guy does well and pushes for a first spot, but way too much of a risk to be signed as a starter. He should also be very cheap, meaning we should still have a lot of money to sign someone less risky/with more experience.
If Corey can take this opportunity and if he can recover fully, here is a taste of what he offers:
https://twitter.com/ALFlashbacks/status/801200985599143939 (https://twitter.com/ALFlashbacks/status/801200985599143939)
Great diagonal run. Great finish.

Certainly not doubting his potential and talent, but no one can dispute the risk he presents. I am all for it if we have another decent option.

One thing that is clear is just how much of an impact he has off the field. Many fans, ex-teammates and even clubs are wishing him the best and hoping he does well. He seems to be a good player to have around.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 04, 2017, 02:09:22 PM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 4th July 2017

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
18. Corey Gameiro
17. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
16. Jade North
15. Matt McKay
14. Brett Holman
13. Nicholas D'Agostino
12. Connor O'Toole
11. Corey Brown
10. Jamie Young
9. Jack Hingert
8. Daniel Bowles
7. Michael Theo
6. Avram Papadopoulos
5. Jacob Pepper
4. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 04, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
I see that JC is named in the Olyroo squad 
http://under23s.footballaustralia.com.au/article/josep-gombau-names-australian-u-23-squad-for-the-afc-u-23-championship-qualifiers/fipmqzg6c0771ivox0eqvv12t (http://under23s.footballaustralia.com.au/article/josep-gombau-names-australian-u-23-squad-for-the-afc-u-23-championship-qualifiers/fipmqzg6c0771ivox0eqvv12t)
Based on this it looks like George Blackwood went to Adelaide
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 04, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 4th July 2017

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
18. Corey Gameiro
17. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
16. Jade North
15. Matt McKay
14. Brett Holman
13. Nicholas D'Agostino
12. Connor O'Toole
11. Corey Brown
10. Jamie Young
9. Jack Hingert
8. Daniel Bowles
7. Michael Theo
6. Avram Papadopoulos
5. Jacob Pepper
4. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Of the youngsters that got game time last year, it looks like Bilic and Dane Ingham are unaccounted for. 
Shannon Brady, JC and Connor O'Toole are in. The others are out. (Katebian, Crestani,  Konstandopoulos, Rowles).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on July 04, 2017, 05:38:48 PM
Bilic is staying
I think you will find that Ingram is going to Wellington
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on July 05, 2017, 08:57:15 AM
*UPDATED*

Here's the list as of today 4th July 2017

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
18. Corey Gameiro
17. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
16. Jade North
15. Matt McKay
14. Brett Holman
13. Nicholas D'Agostino
12. Connor O'Toole
11. Corey Brown
10. Jamie Young
9. Jack Hingert
8. Daniel Bowles
7. Michael Theo
6. Avram Papadopoulos
5. Jacob Pepper
4. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Of the youngsters that got game time last year, it looks like Bilic and Dane Ingham are unaccounted for. 
Shannon Brady, JC and Connor O'Toole are in. The others are out. (Katebian, Crestani,  Konstandopoulos, Rowles).
when you see it listed like that ...it is quite a clean out...hope the replacements are  better than their predecessors...(can't see anyone ever being as good as Broich... let alone better)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 05, 2017, 09:30:50 AM
Based on the players that have left and the players who have been brought in, we should have a whole lot of money left in the cap (as well as a free marquee spot). With the minimum cap spend in place, we must be bringing in some more expensive players at some point.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on July 05, 2017, 06:34:10 PM
I don't understand how you build a playing style or supporter base if you have such a high turnover in players each year.

The odds are that many incoming players wont have played for a while, wont be match fit and will take several rounds to get a run and then several rounds to fit in or adapt.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 05, 2017, 08:51:21 PM
I don't know. I think this year is a normal 5 year cycle where a larger cohort moves on. Normally we don't have 10 or so players leaving. We still have 9 members from a reasonable starting squad and solid bench players.
The big losses were TB, Macca, Borello, Petratos, and maybe Oar. The others hadn't really worked their way into the team, though there was definitely potential.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 06, 2017, 07:38:23 AM
Dane Ingham has re-signed: http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/great-news-roars-new-zealand-international-signs-on/fq3tshc92mja1i3xdd2t49ken (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/great-news-roars-new-zealand-international-signs-on/fq3tshc92mja1i3xdd2t49ken)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 06, 2017, 07:52:39 AM
Dane Ingham has re-signed: [url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/great-news-roars-new-zealand-international-signs-on/fq3tshc92mja1i3xdd2t49ken[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/great-news-roars-new-zealand-international-signs-on/fq3tshc92mja1i3xdd2t49ken[/url])

I find this heartening and I hope he can put pressure on Jack. I hope the experience with the All Whites has helped accelerate his development.
After being up against Aquino and Ronaldo etc, he has nothing to fear, though plenty to improve on.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Herbielives on July 06, 2017, 09:44:25 AM
Well that's from left field but great news nonetheless

Was told he was offered a great deal by Wellington
Glad he is staying
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on July 06, 2017, 10:07:00 AM
Yes, great to hear some positive news that a couple of the young blokes have re-signed.

Was starting to get a bit frustrated after we signed an oldie and a crock.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 06, 2017, 10:21:44 AM
I don't understand how you build a playing style or supporter base if you have such a high turnover in players each year.

The odds are that many incoming players wont have played for a while, wont be match fit and will take several rounds to get a run and then several rounds to fit in or adapt.
To be fair we've never had a situation as we have right now with so many players coming off contract at the end of a season. I'm expecting to see a few "contract extensions" between here and up until the end of the season.

I wonder if this a JA tactical move to make sure the whole squad is hungry and mentally desperate to play their best for the season?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 06, 2017, 10:43:46 AM
**UPDATED - 4 Spots left**
Here's the list as of today 6th July 2017

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
19. Dane Ingham
18. Corey Gameiro
17. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
16. Jade North
15. Matt McKay
14. Brett Holman
13. Nicholas D'Agostino
12. Connor O'Toole
11. Corey Brown
10. Jamie Young
9. Jack Hingert
8. Daniel Bowles
7. Michael Theo
6. Avram Papadopoulos
5. Jacob Pepper
4. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
3. Shannon Brady
2. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
1. Luke DeVere

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: JiMMM on July 06, 2017, 11:13:06 AM
I don't understand how you build a playing style or supporter base if you have such a high turnover in players each year.

The odds are that many incoming players wont have played for a while, wont be match fit and will take several rounds to get a run and then several rounds to fit in or adapt.
To be fair we've never had a situation as we have right now with so many players coming off contract at the end of a season. I'm expecting to see a few "contract extensions" between here and up until the end of the season.

I wonder if this a JA tactical move to make sure the whole squad is hungry and mentally desperate to play their best for the season?

I'm not so sure, I haven't been able to see a contract length mentioned in any of the recent releases they have all been very carefully worded, so there may be a few players who are signed on beyond next season that we don't know about (hopefully anyway).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 06, 2017, 11:19:59 AM
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/roar-close-to-two-import-signings--467684 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/roar-close-to-two-import-signings--467684)
According to this, there are two to come.
Sounds like they will be imports. So not Burns or MacDonald I guess.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on July 06, 2017, 11:58:12 AM
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/roar-close-to-two-import-signings--467684 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/roar-close-to-two-import-signings--467684)
According to this, there are two to come.
Sounds like they will be imports. So not Burns or MacDonald I guess.

there is a rumour floating around that we are trying to sign Jesse Makarounas, i think it might be bolloks but that could be the 3rd they are looking at. Hopefully the two foreigners are quality, we still need 20+ goals to come from somewhere.

also Vince ruggari said on twitter that the steadfast logo was blacked out on JA's top this morning so looks like we need a new shirt sponsor.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 06, 2017, 03:20:04 PM
Article from Vince Rugari with quotes from JA indicating we were going to be signing another winger and a striker (both imports, one marquee) and possibly a third player. Feels we are done at the back and in the middle.

Also good to hear the Roar staff have been 'stunned' with Gamiero's fitness and speed.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-in-the-hunt-for-two-more-imports-20170706-gx5z4f.html (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-in-the-hunt-for-two-more-imports-20170706-gx5z4f.html)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: JiMMM on July 06, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
Article from Vince Rugari with quotes from JA indicating we were going to be signing another winger and a striker (both imports, one marquee) and possibly a third player. Feels we are done at the back and in the middle.

Also good to hear the Roar staff have been 'stunned' with Gamiero's fitness and speed.

[url]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-in-the-hunt-for-two-more-imports-20170706-gx5z4f.html[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-in-the-hunt-for-two-more-imports-20170706-gx5z4f.html[/url])


and a 3 year deal for Ingham which is a good call.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 06, 2017, 03:39:44 PM
Article from Vince Rugari with quotes from JA indicating we were going to be signing another winger and a striker (both imports, one marquee) and possibly a third player. Feels we are done at the back and in the middle.

Also good to hear the Roar staff have been 'stunned' with Gamiero's fitness and speed.

[url]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-in-the-hunt-for-two-more-imports-20170706-gx5z4f.html[/url] ([url]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/soccer/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-in-the-hunt-for-two-more-imports-20170706-gx5z4f.html[/url])


and a 3 year deal for Ingham which is a good call.

Very good!!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 06, 2017, 03:41:39 PM
Makes me wonder if the Caletti deal is only for 1 season or more??
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 06, 2017, 05:25:09 PM
Makes me wonder if the Caletti deal is only for 1 season or more??
I think JC is not a long term prospect for Roar and I  think he will go overseas. So its a season by season proposition.
I expect to see him pushing for a WC squad position in 2018 assuming we qualify.
I really think he is a great prospect and whilst I was watching the Socceroos in the Fed Cup I had this mental picture of him fitting right into that midfield.
The way he moves the ball around quickly and his vision are exceptional.
He is confident on the ball. He just needs to develop physically to cope with the physicality. 
If he can do that, then we will see great things from this youngster.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 07, 2017, 10:40:07 AM
Makes me wonder if the Caletti deal is only for 1 season or more??
I think JC is not a long term prospect for Roar and I  think he will go overseas. So its a season by season proposition.
I expect to see him pushing for a WC squad position in 2018 assuming we qualify.
I really think he is a great prospect and whilst I was watching the Socceroos in the Fed Cup I had this mental picture of him fitting right into that midfield.
The way he moves the ball around quickly and his vision are exceptional.
He is confident on the ball. He just needs to develop physically to cope with the physicality. 
If he can do that, then we will see great things from this youngster.

Caletti's size isn't his only problem - he has no sprint worthy of the name.  He has to develop decent acceleration over 10 metres.  He's young and may still find it in his locker with hard work. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 07, 2017, 11:41:13 AM
I think it depends what role he's required/wants to play. Not every player has to be super fast. As long as their super fast in their heads that's the most important thing and I think Caletti has that gift.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 07, 2017, 11:49:30 AM
I think it depends what role he's required/wants to play. Not every player has to be super fast. As long as their super fast in their heads that's the most important thing and I think Caletti has that gift.

Fin, I would argue that pace, at least over 10 metres, is essential at top level.  I'm not talking extreme pace, but JC is markedly slow in a sprint.  When he has to track back and cover at pace, he can't.  But, as I said, he's very young, and gym work and focussed training can produced marked improvements.  Speed of thought isn't enough without the legs to match.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 07, 2017, 12:13:18 PM
Would you consider Caletti slower than 2 of our best DM's over time? ie. Paartalu and Brattan. I guess it can be a bit of an apples and oranges argument overall as it all depends on what the requirements are of the midfielder in the shape/formation/tactics they have to play under.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 07, 2017, 12:47:33 PM
Would you consider Caletti slower than 2 of our best DM's over time? ie. Paartalu and Brattan. I guess it can be a bit of an apples and oranges argument overall as it all depends on what the requirements are of the midfielder in the shape/formation/tactics they have to play under.

I think another player to consider is Mooy, who plays a deeper creative role for Huddersfield and is really quite slow. He takes his time with the ball and using his ball playing ability to get himself out of trouble.

Mooy is definitely a bigger and more solidly built (especially now) player than Caletti however, so would find it easier shrugging off challenges.

Fin I agree that not every player needs to be super fast. I think we can all agree, however, that pace is only ever going to make a player more desireable (unless it detracts from their ability on the ball).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 07, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
Would you consider Caletti slower than 2 of our best DM's over time? ie. Paartalu and Brattan. I guess it can be a bit of an apples and oranges argument overall as it all depends on what the requirements are of the midfielder in the shape/formation/tactics they have to play under.

This is a good point.  Yes, slower than Paats, because although he wasn't quick - and that was a problem in his game - his height gave him a   a long stride, which meant he was quicker across the ground that he looked.  Brattan's lack of pace has been his glass ceiling and, frankly, I think he's not really worth his place in the City starting 11.  Would not be surprised to see him on the bench this coming season. But, he's faster than Caletti.

Mooy was badly exposed for his lack of pace in the Confed Cup, and he too is faster in the sprint than Caletti, in my judgement.  I won't be at all surprised to see Mooy struggle in the Premiership.  The Confed Cup pitted him against EPL standard players, and he looked well short to me - and the problem was his lack of pace.

What Caletti has that these guys don't is youth.  He can get stronger and faster, and I hope will.  As other posters have noted, he has great vision, touch, and passing range. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 11, 2017, 12:26:02 PM
https://twitter.com/USASoccerFanz/status/884039786004185088 (https://twitter.com/USASoccerFanz/status/884039786004185088)
Listen and cringe! This guy is insane!
Brisbarny is now on the world map!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Knighted on July 11, 2017, 01:21:17 PM
https://twitter.com/USASoccerFanz/status/884039786004185088 (https://twitter.com/USASoccerFanz/status/884039786004185088)
Listen and cringe! This guy is insane!
Brisbarny is now on the world map!
(https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Captain-Picard-Facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 12, 2017, 08:09:30 PM
Fox report on possible Borello replacement. Elson Hooi
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-fly-out-to-caribbean-to-line-up-elson-hooi-as-brandon-borrellos-aleague-replacement/news-story/9c27083f1d05e34739541a1e983a5d30 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-fly-out-to-caribbean-to-line-up-elson-hooi-as-brandon-borrellos-aleague-replacement/news-story/9c27083f1d05e34739541a1e983a5d30)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on July 12, 2017, 08:37:42 PM
https://www.transfermarkt.com/elson-hooi/profil/spieler/229228 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/elson-hooi/profil/spieler/229228)

Released from Denmark.... depreciating value... not even our primary target...

This is an odd story. Are they saying we went for his team mate who we failed to sign. But Craig moore and the aloisis didnt want to cancel their holiday to the caribbean so he's going anyway?


 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 09:22:35 AM
JC has made the U23 squad final cut.  The only Brisbane Roar player to do so. Congratulations to Joe Caletti.
Clut is in the squad. Well done to him. Lachlan Jackson also.
Newcastle, Adelaide, and WSW have four players each involved. Sydney has zero incidentally since Blackwood has gone to Adelaide.
Apart from JC, we do not have much by the way of coming through. Ingham  has thrown his hat in with the NZ team. So that is basically two youngsters.
Connor O'Toole is 24 already. 
Which is a bit old to be trying to break through and If he doesn't break through this year, then you have to question his A League future. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on July 17, 2017, 10:05:21 AM
Apparently we have a young Spanish striker trialling with us, Desarrollo de Miculo. Anyone know what the deal is? Is he the going to be our first choice striker?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 11:49:55 AM
Apparently we have a young Spanish striker trialling with us, Desarrollo de Miculo. Anyone know what the deal is? Is he the going to be our first choice striker?
I was thinking someone is taking the Miculo. I can't find this guy.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on July 17, 2017, 12:34:55 PM
Apparently we have a young Spanish striker trialling with us, Desarrollo de Miculo. Anyone know what the deal is? Is he the going to be our first choice striker?

I was thinking someone is taking the Miculo. I can't find this guy.


Ahh yes a quick spanish translate looks to be the case Desarrollo de Miculo -> "speaking out my ass". however

http://www.empolichannel.it/maccarone-verso-laustralia-arriva-la-conferma-giochera-nel-brisbane-roar/ (http://www.empolichannel.it/maccarone-verso-laustralia-arriva-la-conferma-giochera-nel-brisbane-roar/)

looks like we may sign Massimo Maccarone from Empoli
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 12:40:48 PM
Apparently we have a young Spanish striker trialling with us, Desarrollo de Miculo. Anyone know what the deal is? Is he the going to be our first choice striker?

I was thinking someone is taking the Miculo. I can't find this guy.


Ahh yes a quick spanish translate looks to be the case Desarrollo de Miculo -> "speaking out my ass". however

[url]http://www.empolichannel.it/maccarone-verso-laustralia-arriva-la-conferma-giochera-nel-brisbane-roar/[/url] ([url]http://www.empolichannel.it/maccarone-verso-laustralia-arriva-la-conferma-giochera-nel-brisbane-roar/[/url])

looks like we may sign Massimo Maccarone from Empoli

That translation explains some of the sites Google was picking up!
There is stuff on the HAL Player movements thread on Massimo Maccarone. He is three months older than Cahill so perhaps Aloisi is thinking a quality 37/38 year old may cut it. I also read a comment that JA expects a lot from D'Agostino this season. Maybe he thinks between them it will work. I really don't see it myself.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 01:22:45 PM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-sign-massimo-maccarone-former-sampdoria-and-middlesbrough-striker-as-marquee/news-story/04e2b04da4e928cdfea7659746334931 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-sign-massimo-maccarone-former-sampdoria-and-middlesbrough-striker-as-marquee/news-story/04e2b04da4e928cdfea7659746334931)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 17, 2017, 01:30:34 PM
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-sign-massimo-maccarone-former-sampdoria-and-middlesbrough-striker-as-marquee/news-story/04e2b04da4e928cdfea7659746334931 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/brisbane-roar/brisbane-roar-sign-massimo-maccarone-former-sampdoria-and-middlesbrough-striker-as-marquee/news-story/04e2b04da4e928cdfea7659746334931)
Not really excited about this.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 17, 2017, 02:02:02 PM
JC has made the U23 squad final cut.  The only Brisbane Roar player to do so. Congratulations to Joe Caletti.
Clut is in the squad. Well done to him. Lachlan Jackson also.
Newcastle, Adelaide, and WSW have four players each involved. Sydney has zero incidentally since Blackwood has gone to Adelaide.
Apart from JC, we do not have much by the way of coming through. Ingham  has thrown his hat in with the NZ team. So that is basically two youngsters.
Connor O'Toole is 24 already. 
Which is a bit old to be trying to break through and If he doesn't break through this year, then you have to question his A League future.


Some very strange selections in this squad tbh , even Marinars player Buhagier got called up but Liam Rose was cut ?
Very few of the overseas players called in .
Last U20s squad we had Rowles , champness,prasad and otoole, the first 3 have all left the club and otoole returned injured from Barhain , at least Caletti is flying the flag
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 09:36:58 PM
Elson Hooi not on radar apparently.
Roar still chasing a winger whilst scratching their heads at the negative commentary about Maccarone's age. Perhaps Roar dont get the strength of feelings about Thomas leaving the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 17, 2017, 10:47:11 PM
Elson Hooi not on radar apparently.
Roar still chasing a winger whilst scratching their heads at the negative commentary about Maccarone's age. Perhaps Roar dont get the strength of feelings about Thomas leaving the club.

I don't think the club "get" anything, CR.  Since the firing of Mulvey the club has been a shambles.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 17, 2017, 10:53:03 PM
Elson Hooi not on radar apparently.
Roar still chasing a winger whilst scratching their heads at the negative commentary about Maccarone's age. Perhaps Roar dont get the strength of feelings about Thomas leaving the club.

I don't think the club "get" anything, CR.  Since the firing of Mulvey the club has been a shambles.
It was shambolic before Mulvey was even on the radar. No contract for Ange, let Eugenie slip away, extensive search for a replacement for Ange came up with his assistant.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 19, 2017, 08:43:01 AM
*UPDATED* 3 spots left in the squad

Here's the list as of today 19th July 2017

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
20. Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
19. Corey Gameiro
18. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
17. Jade North
16. Matt McKay
15. Brett Holman (Marquee)
14. Nicholas D'Agostino
13. Connor O'Toole
12. Corey Brown
11. Jamie Young
10. Jack Hingert
9. Daniel Bowles
8. Michael Theo
7. Avram Papadopoulos
6. Jacob Pepper
5. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 19, 2017, 10:08:52 AM
My take on that list, Fin, is that the end of this season would be a very good time to bring in a new coach to rebuild the squad as Ange did, when he got rid of 11 players and built a new starting 11.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 19, 2017, 11:23:51 AM
My take on that list, Fin, is that the end of this season would be a very good time to bring in a new coach to rebuild the squad as Ange did, when he got rid of 11 players and built a new starting 11.

With so many players coming off contract it would definitely be a good time to do so. I mean a complete clean out IF the team isn't performing.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 19, 2017, 01:47:49 PM
Don't JA and RA have 3 yr deals ? This would mean they are here until end of 19/20 season .
Can't see the Bakies giving them a payout and then having to pay a new coach also.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 19, 2017, 03:37:37 PM
Don't JA and RA have 3 yr deals ? This would mean they are here until end of 19/20 season .
Can't see the Bakies giving them a payout and then having to pay a new coach also.

Nothing like failure to shift the goalposts.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 19, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
Marco reporting on Twitter that we are offering Ex-Glory midfielder Mitchell Oxborrow an injury-replacement deal.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 19, 2017, 04:15:35 PM
Marco reporting on Twitter that we are offering Ex-Glory midfielder Mitchell Oxborrow an injury-replacement deal.
Cover for Daniel Bowles it appears.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: roarlady on July 19, 2017, 04:18:14 PM
He's the only one I could think of.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 19, 2017, 05:09:04 PM
I don't think Daniel Bowles ever did this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwSsrwuGtw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwSsrwuGtw)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: kb55 on July 19, 2017, 06:15:56 PM
BROADMEADOW Magic midfielder Mitch Oxborrow is set to resurrect his A-League career at the Brisbane Roar.
Oxborrow flew to Brisbane on Wednesday night, missing Magic?s friendly against the Jets, and, pending a medical, is expected to be signed as an injury-replacement for Daniel Bowles. 
Bowles tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee in round 19 last season and is not expected to return until late January.
Oxborrow will train with the Roar for the next week, before a final game for the fifth-placed Magic against Maitland on July 30.
Released by Perth in May, the 22-year-old was lured to Broadmeadow by coach and former teammate Ruben Zadkovich with the aim of reviving the play-maker?s A-League career.
?I?m over the moon,? Oxborrow said. ?When I first came over [from Perth] I doubted whether I would get back to the A-League. The biggest thing for me was playing for Ruben. He has motivated me on and off the field. I can?t put into words how much I appreciate what he has done for me. Broadmeadow as well and the players. I?m stoked and can?t wait to get up there.?
Oxborrow, who made his A-League debut for the Jets as a 17-year-old in 2012, has been a revelation in five appearances for Magic.

?I just have to keep going the way I am going,? he said. ?My motivation and hunger is stronger than ever. When you fall out of the professional environment, you work twice as hard. Hopefully it works out and I get a contract.?
Oxborrow?s likely departure is a major blow to Magic?s premiership hopes, but Zadkovich said the player?s interest was paramount.

?Everyone at the club is super happy and proud of what Mitch has been able to do,? Zadkovich said. ?The purpose of him coming to us was to get back in the A-League. It is his profession. For it to come off is awesome. It is huge for our club and shows that we want to help people. I spoke to Craig Moore (Roar football manager) about how well Mitch has been doing and how good his attitude and work ethic has been. His approach has rubbed off on the players and been a catalyst for our good run.?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on July 19, 2017, 06:35:35 PM
He's a good pickup.  I was surprised Perth let him go.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 19, 2017, 07:24:22 PM
BROADMEADOW Magic midfielder Mitch Oxborrow is set to resurrect his A-League career at the Brisbane Roar.
Oxborrow flew to Brisbane on Wednesday night, missing Magic?s friendly against the Jets, and, pending a medical, is expected to be signed as an injury-replacement for Daniel Bowles.
Bowles tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his knee in round 19 last season and is not expected to return until late January.
Oxborrow will train with the Roar for the next week, before a final game for the fifth-placed Magic against Maitland on July 30.
Released by Perth in May, the 22-year-old was lured to Broadmeadow by coach and former teammate Ruben Zadkovich with the aim of reviving the play-maker?s A-League career.
?I?m over the moon,? Oxborrow said. ?When I first came over [from Perth] I doubted whether I would get back to the A-League. The biggest thing for me was playing for Ruben. He has motivated me on and off the field. I can?t put into words how much I appreciate what he has done for me. Broadmeadow as well and the players. I?m stoked and can?t wait to get up there.?
Oxborrow, who made his A-League debut for the Jets as a 17-year-old in 2012, has been a revelation in five appearances for Magic.

?I just have to keep going the way I am going,? he said. ?My motivation and hunger is stronger than ever. When you fall out of the professional environment, you work twice as hard. Hopefully it works out and I get a contract.?
Oxborrow?s likely departure is a major blow to Magic?s premiership hopes, but Zadkovich said the player?s interest was paramount.

?Everyone at the club is super happy and proud of what Mitch has been able to do,? Zadkovich said. ?The purpose of him coming to us was to get back in the A-League. It is his profession. For it to come off is awesome. It is huge for our club and shows that we want to help people. I spoke to Craig Moore (Roar football manager) about how well Mitch has been doing and how good his attitude and work ethic has been. His approach has rubbed off on the players and been a catalyst for our good run.?
Excited by this.
Sounds like this young man is going to be very motivated at the life line thrown to him.
If he turns out to be a useful as the last ex Perth pick up it will be good for Roar.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on July 19, 2017, 07:42:24 PM
He needs a steak or two for sure
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 19, 2017, 08:30:32 PM

If he turns out to be a useful as the last ex Perth pick up it will be good for Roar.
We also got Miller (Liam) and Fereira from them...
That goal was the only one he scored for Glory.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on July 19, 2017, 09:14:50 PM
Another midfielder , thought we needed a right winger more tbh ,will be cover for Makay ,TK , Holeman , Caletti and Pepper
Strange signing
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: goalfeast on July 20, 2017, 06:45:52 AM

If he turns out to be a useful as the last ex Perth pick up it will be good for Roar.
We also got Miller (Liam) and Fereira from them...
That goal was the only one he scored for Glory.



When did we get Fereira. Don't remember that.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 20, 2017, 06:50:11 AM

If he turns out to be a useful as the last ex Perth pick up it will be good for Roar.
We also got Miller (Liam) and Fereira from them...
That goal was the only one he scored for Glory.



When did we get Fereira. Don't remember that.
Diogo Ferreira ...young Aussie player -2013/14.
But we got him from Victory and he went to Perth from us
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on July 20, 2017, 07:26:38 AM
Another midfielder , thought we needed a right winger more tbh ,will be cover for Makay ,TK , Holeman , Caletti and Pepper
Strange signing

RW search still on-going apparently. JA has said another visa player will come in to fill that spot.

Pepper and Caletti will be cover for TK and McKay. Oxborrow is an attacking mid and would be cover for Holman (along with potentially Daggers).

I think it makes sense as Holman isn't a 90 minute player and we will need cover for him. Also, it's only until January (4 months) after which time Bowles should be back from his injury.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on July 20, 2017, 09:19:24 AM
Dissapointed we spent the money on a striker and not a AM. I thin it's the most difficult position to play well and it's where we are lacking the most. With a good AM the strikers job is a lot easier.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on July 20, 2017, 09:21:30 AM
Holman might actually be more useful as a point man then a AM. He can finish and is smart to pick the right angles
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 20, 2017, 09:34:37 AM
Don't forget that Oxborrow is looking to be signed as an injury replacement and as such takes the place of Bowles in our squad and is not counted as an extra in our 23 man squad.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: gooseman22 on July 20, 2017, 01:18:57 PM
Another midfielder , thought we needed a right winger more tbh ,will be cover for Makay ,TK , Holeman , Caletti and Pepper
Strange signing

RW search still on-going apparently. JA has said another visa player will come in to fill that spot.

Pepper and Caletti will be cover for TK and McKay. Oxborrow is an attacking mid and would be cover for Holman (along with potentially Daggers).

I think it makes sense as Holman isn't a 90 minute player and we will need cover for him. Also, it's only until January (4 months) after which time Bowles should be back from his injury.
Not sure about that, I watched some of his highlights this morning (never paid him much attention to him before). In most of what I saw, he was sitting deep, and dropping pin-point passes into the attacking 3rd...more in the style of Brattan, than a true AM.
Maybe that's just how Perth used him, rather than his skill set.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 20, 2017, 01:38:06 PM
Best thing for us is that he's gonna be training and playing to impress so we will definitely be getting the best out of him.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 21, 2017, 09:43:57 AM
*UPDATED (with Mitchell Oxborrow possibly signing)*

Here's the list as of today 21st July 2017

Rumours/Possible Signings:
Mitchell Oxborrow - Possible Injury-Replacement signing for Daniel Bowles

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
20. Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
19. Corey Gameiro
18. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
17. Jade North
16. Matt McKay
15. Brett Holman (Marquee)
14. Nicholas D'Agostino
13. Connor O'Toole
12. Corey Brown
11. Jamie Young
10. Jack Hingert
9. Daniel Bowles
8. Michael Theo
7. Avram Papadopoulos
6. Jacob Pepper
5. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 21, 2017, 10:14:25 AM
I don't see anything in the rules I found on the internet about how injury replacement affects player count, so I am guessing that an injury replacement is not included in the player count and also not the salary cap. I assume there is some insurer paying wages. If anyone can find the  rules please post them as I am guessing.
The maximum permitted number of players is 23. Minimum is 20.
The new RW will make 21 + Oxborrow as injury replacement .
My guess is that JA will keep at least one position open until the January transfer window. That would be sensible in my view. If the goals don't come we will need to find another solution to Big Mac and it also allows JA to pick up someone along the way if a quality player comes along. Alternatively If JA maxes out now, it is less incentive for Oxborrow.
JA may promote one of the young guys currently training of course, but as he already has the three mandatory under 20s, he does not have to.
There could well still be a spot for Oxborrow when Bowles returns which gives him everything to play for.  And also in terms of the cap, he would only be paid for the remainder of the season.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on July 21, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
I don't see anything in the rules I found on the internet about how injury replacement affects player count, so I am guessing that an injury replacement is not included in the player count and also not the salary cap. I assume there is some insurer paying wages. If anyone can find the  rules please post them as I am guessing.
The maximum permitted number of players is 23. Minimum is 20.
The new RW will make 21 + Oxborrow as injury replacement .
My guess is that JA will keep at least one position open until the January transfer window. That would be sensible in my view. If the goals don't come we will need to find another solution to Big Mac and it also allows JA to pick up someone along the way if a quality player comes along. Alternatively If JA maxes out now, it is less incentive for Oxborrow.
JA may promote one of the young guys currently training of course, but as he already has the three mandatory under 20s, he does not have to.
There could well still be a spot for Oxborrow when Bowles returns which gives him everything to play for.  And also in terms of the cap, he would only be paid for the remainder of the season.
an injury replacement signing effectively becomes the injured player in terms of registration and salary cap. so Oxborrow does not take up an extra spot as well as bowles but he can also not be paid more than what bowles is (though oxborrow would probably be on significantly less anyway). I agree with you that JA will probably go with the current squad + new RW and leave 2 spots open for January, one for oxborrow if he performs, and one for midseason cover.

I would think that JA would be paying Oxborrow, Bowles's full amount so that he is more likely to play for minimum wage if signed during january, leaving the maximum amount of cap space for the spare squad spot.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on July 21, 2017, 10:56:06 AM
I think the injury replacement wage is a vague area in that I'm sure I remember seeing a high profile player in the past obviously getting paid more than the man he replaced. THAT being said, if existing player is on X amount of $$$ for a season (52 weeks), then technically the club could sign a player for eg. a 7 week injury replacement stint on a good amount if they're allowed to condense the existing player's wage.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on July 22, 2017, 04:13:25 PM
Was criticism of Tommy Oar unfair?
Could it just be that Tommy Oar was presented to the media and Roar supporters as a marquee player and therefore obvious comparisons made with the irreplaceable Thomas Broich? 
Whereas in Tommy Oar's mind last season was all about getting to play again after having two disrupted seasons.
Perhaps JA should have adopted a wait and see attitude before all this talk of marquee status.  The emphasis should have been on Oar getting back on track. Then review at season's end.
It was not the supporters or media who set the expectation. It was JA and co who publicly anointed Tommy Oar as a future marquee.
The same criticism will apply to Big Mac  if he fails to deliver whether through injury or whatever reason. No pressure, but he has to deliver a ballpark of 20 goals
Whereas say, if things don't work out for Corey Gameiro coming here quite openly to try to revive his career, without any tickets on him, I would expect him to get a fair go. I hope so anyway.
The reason Arana got so much criticism was because he was brought in as a visa player as opposed to just being brought in as a squad player. Expectation was up several notches, and he failed to meet expectations of a visa player. He was presented to supporters as a quality ex La Liga player and  did not meet expectations set by JA and co.
Same thing with Brett Holman.  He showed signs of being a good player, but as yet not marquee status.

Here's the article.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/22/oar-claims-unfair-treatment-negative-media (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/22/oar-claims-unfair-treatment-negative-media)
Socceroos winger Tommy Oar is the first to admit that he could have played better for Brisbane Roar last season but says he did not deserve the constant criticism from the media.
Oar left Brisbane one year ahead of the termination of his marquee contract and joined up with Cypriot champions APOEL.

Oar, 25, admitted that he was unable to play at this best in his short stint with John Aloisi's side but said the media criticism at times was unfair.

"Some critics will have a negative viewpoint on your performance even when they are saying something positive about you," Oar said from Nicosia.

"Even if I played a good game it was never enough for some.

"This really is unfortunate because it affects the judgement of people who do not really know what's happening.

"No player likes being criticised but sometimes the criticism was a bit too much.

"Last season was all about getting to play again after having two disrupted seasons since I decided to leave Utrecht and when I left Ipswich Town.

"I had some good games for Brisbane and some less. Unfortunately for me when I started to find some good form halfway through the season I tore my hamstring and had to start from scratch. I'm not making excuses but that's just the reality."

Of course I would have liked to do better. But regardless of how I performed I would give the same answer ... any ambitious person is never satisfied and always wants to do more.

"One thing I've learnt is that regardless of anything you're always going to have critics and admirers so for me it's not important what people were saying ... only what the coach thought."

Oar is looking forward to the next exciting chapter of his career in Cyprus in the eastern Mediterranean and he made it a point that he is not finished as a Socceroos player and would do everything possible to regain his spot in the squad that is fighting for a place in next year's FIFA World Cup in Russia.

Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou is adamant he will pick players who are performing regularly with their clubs. He has made only a few exceptions.

Oar should get plenty of game time with APOEL who are expected to play about 60 matches this season.

But he knows well enough that it all depends on how he performs with the club that is two ties away from securing a spot in the glamorous UEFA Champions League.

"Getting game time is not enough, it has to be quality game time," he said.

"If I perform well for APOEL, it will give me a chance to get back into the Socceroos' reckoning. But my sole focus is on club football at the moment. If I can do well then we will see what happens."

Oar played in the 2014 World Cup In Brazil and he yearns for another experience of playing in the game's biggest event among the world's finest players.

"Of course, to get back in and maybe play in the World Cup would be great but don't get me wrong. It will only happen if I perform well here," he said.

"So if I looked at the next Socceroos camps, for example, I'll lose my focus here and won't perform to my best.

"The best approach is to always only look at one game ahead and do all you can to perform well in that game."

Oar is expected to play a key role in APOEL's Champions League two-legged qualifier against Romania's Viitorul, starting on Wednesday.

"This Viitorul team is interesting. It is owned and coached by Gheorghe Hagi who is a Romanian legend," Oar said.

"They have a very young side and will provide a unique challenge. Our team however is full of internationals and I'm very confident of overcoming the challenge."
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on July 23, 2017, 08:35:00 AM
No it wasn't unfair. He didn't perform more often then not. He let us down. Overrated player.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 01, 2017, 09:15:18 AM
Thomas Broich to have more surgery
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/former-brisbane-roar-star-thomas-broich-requires-more-surgery-on-his-ankle/news-story/fd8ac9b88bbad7874a03fadc88b30521 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/former-brisbane-roar-star-thomas-broich-requires-more-surgery-on-his-ankle/news-story/fd8ac9b88bbad7874a03fadc88b30521)

FORMER Brisbane Roar star Thomas Broich needs further ankle surgery.

Just two months after having an operation on his left ankle, Broich is set to go under the knife again this week after at CT scan revealed floating bone fragments.

?When I tried to step up the intensity in my recovery it became difficult so I went for another scan, and this is the outcome,? the 36-year-old two-time Johnny Warren Medallist said.

Broich, who remains a free agent, is confident of making a full recovery and being able to play again should an offer come his way.

He is also planing for his post-playing career, having recently spent time in Sydney with the Olyroos squad as an observer and in an unofficial mentoring role.

This bloke's only 36 and he is injured! He should be a shoo in at Roar. (CR)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on August 02, 2017, 04:27:39 PM
How accurate is this?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/brisbane-roar/startseite/verein/7831 (https://www.transfermarkt.com/brisbane-roar/startseite/verein/7831)

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: kb55 on August 02, 2017, 10:47:40 PM
'Spanish forward Guillermo Torres, who was a second-half substitute in the Roar?s 2-0 Heritage Shield win over Lions at Richlands last week, is no longer training with the club.'
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 03, 2017, 04:17:04 PM
Given that the Roar website is featuring Oxborrow talking about the free kick goal for Perth, and wearing Roar colours, I assume that it is now official that he is in the squad.
At least until Bowles is back.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 03, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
Given that the Roar website is featuring Oxborrow talking about the free kick goal for Perth, and wearing Roar colours, I assume that it is now official that he is in the squad.
At least until Bowles is back.


Correct: http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/signing-news-welcome-to-brisbane-mitch/1hodxbidccldj1p72c8quguc8j (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/signing-news-welcome-to-brisbane-mitch/1hodxbidccldj1p72c8quguc8j)

Although it sounds like he has signed onto a regular contract, rather than as an injury replacement.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 04, 2017, 03:05:37 PM
*UPDATED* - 2 positions left in the squad.

Here's the list as of today 4th August 2017

Rumours/Possible Signings:
-

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
21. Mitchell Oxborrow
20. Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
19. Corey Gameiro
18. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
17. Jade North
16. Matt McKay
15. Brett Holman (Marquee)
14. Nicholas D'Agostino
13. Connor O'Toole
12. Corey Brown
11. Jamie Young
10. Jack Hingert
9. Daniel Bowles
8. Michael Theo
7. Avram Papadopoulos
6. Jacob Pepper
5. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 07, 2017, 12:08:43 PM
So Peter Skapetis is an injury replacement for now.
The paper also says that Emilio Martinez is on a scholarship deal.
Surely Aaron Reardon (in Australia U20 squad) would be a pick.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 08, 2017, 08:37:30 AM
Article in The Roar likens us to Moneyball by Adam Daunt
http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/08/08/brisbane-roar-built-now-embarking-new-era/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theroar%2Fsoccer+%28The+Roar+-+Soccer%29 (http://www.theroar.com.au/2017/08/08/brisbane-roar-built-now-embarking-new-era/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theroar%2Fsoccer+%28The+Roar+-+Soccer%29)

Moneyball is a 2011 sports drama. It revolves around the true story of Oakland Athletics General Manager Billy Beane and assistant Peter Brand, a Yale economist, who revolt against traditional baseball logic and build a team of ragtag misfits based off mathematical algorithm.
It proved to be a home run.
Since it?s box office debut, Moneyball has become the colloquial term for teams buying recycled players.
Its usage has bordered upon excessive and frivolous, coming to encompasses transfer policies which don?t come close to the true heart of what Michael Lewis describes in his renowned book, Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game.
I wouldn?t describe Brisbane Roar?s transfer policy this off-season as Moneyball-esque, it is a gamble and built for the now. Potentially, for a new era.
Massimo Maccarone is a 38-year-old striker, the journey-man striker shapes as a throwback to a bygone era of old-fashioned hold-up play who feasts by poaching in the six-yard box. He has good pedigree with Middlesbrough and Palermo in his past alumni, however, turning 38 in September, one must wonder how many minutes Brisbane will get out of him.
Is it enough to be impactful?
Fahid Ben Khalfallah is well known among the A-League faithful, awarded Melbourne Victory?s Player of the season in his debut year. He seems a replacement for Roar Idol Thomas Broich, yet at 34, much the same as Maccarone, there is a question of fitness and minutes.
If both players cannot playout matches occasionally, are they re-signed to the bench as impact players?
Corey Gameiro once had Australia?s football community in the palm of his hand, he had talent in abundance and shaped as the next big thing. Gameiro arrives in Brisbane, entering his fourth club after a career plagued by injuries which have stalled his progress.
Apparently, Brisbane staff are impressed with his conditioning with all things considered, yet in the back of everyone?s minds must be the knowledge that this is a big risk.
Given all three are on one-year deals, two are ageing and one is on the comeback trail, it feels like Aloisi has banked on success this year, with these risks being calculated he is hoping to find value where others cannot.
This has the hallmarks of a short-term plan. It?s a brave move and could force a change of philosophy.
Since the halcyon days of Ange Postecoglou, Brisbane has assembled itself in its various iterations, under a 4-3-3 formation with an underlying desire to pass the ball and the play a ?pure? game.
Last season, Jamie McLaren and Brandon Borrello offered Brisbane a potent and scintillatingly quick offensive line, allowing Brisbane to play counter-attack if the situation beckoned, while the passing ability of Thomas Broich and Thomas Kristensen allowed Brisbane midfield dominance and control of the game.
Now with McLaren and Borrello in Europe and Thomas Broich retired, Brisbane may not have the speed it needs to counter attack or play a front three with wide-players.
Ben Khalfallah offers Aloisi a wide option, yet his strengths lie in playing incisive passes and dead ball specialities rather than breakneck speed. Both Gameiro and Maccarone are versatile attacking players, however, are more suited to playing centrally as is Nicholas D?Agostino.
Trialist Peter Skapetis is also a central attacking option.
John Aloisi is certainly blessed with firepower, which could see a shift towards a two-striker system, potentially a 4-1-2-1-2, allowing Brisbane to highlight their strength in central midfield and use their hoard of strikers.
Potentially a slight variation of a front three could be in vogue, with the two wingers shifting inwards to play behind a central striker, more of a 4-3-2-1, compensating for the lack of wide players and utilising Brisbane?s plethora of strikers.
Assumedly Brisbane would have to sacrifice its counter attack and revert to a more patient controlled style of game reminiscent of the 2009-2012 ?Roarcelona?.
If there is something we can agree on, it?s that Brisbane will pose one of the fascinating stories of the upcoming season, having taken a chance on its signings and the possibility of a change marking a new era.
Brisbane is all in for season 2017/18, whether they hit the jackpot remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on August 08, 2017, 11:12:46 AM
Interesting Article,

although i don't agree with the term, one of fascinating stories of the upcoming season.

I don't find it fascinating that we are signing very old players, signing injury prone players, and I'm still not sure what JA is doing...

Im a very bruised Roar fan, the last years have been brutal, the only brief highlight for me was watching Corona control the midfield and McLaren develop over the two seasons.

I'm just struggling with the age of the players/ squad overall and direction of the club.

i wish i could be a little more optimistic, but i think I'm tapped out.


Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on August 08, 2017, 12:34:34 PM
To me it's weird to think how negative the overall feel has been about the team over the last few seasons. We've finished 3rd in both seasons so definitely haven't been a total debacle.

I don't know what to make of the coming season. We've got an ageing squad and 17 players currently coming off contract at the end of it.
It feels like that JA needs a dream run of everything he's planning to come together for us to be a top 4 contender but even if a few things fail then we'll fall apart in a bad way.

Time will tell.

A win against the Victory in the cup would be a great confidence booster!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 08, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
I think it will be really interesting to see how we perform this season. I am hoping for a lot of rotation of these older players with the younger guys we have got coming through. Hopefully we find another few gems.

It has been a bit of an up and down time for the club, but we have still done quite well with what we have.

I remain positive, because we could always be Wellington, Adelaide, Perth or Newcastle fans.

It is also good to know that the club is still willing to invest money in marquees.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 08, 2017, 01:21:10 PM
It has been refreshing to have a lot more stability this off season for sure.
But to an extent, I think that negativity is the birth right of a football fan. And some things are not helping:

(1) Losing Thomas. It was always going to happen someday but the way that it happened has left a few bruises. It is the end of an era.
(2) Promises made about the Borrello / Maclaren replacement did not come to fruition and there has been little to no communication from JA to the fan base about how things worked out. People are left guessing about changes of formation and approach. The vacuum left by JA is being filled by negativity and speculation. The fan forum last week was about player development. It was made quite clear that other interests were off limit. eg The role of Danny Tiatto. So people are still waiting for communication and engagement. 
(3) Player age is a valid concern and was commented on by people outside the club.  It is the elephant in the room.
(4) Last season started with promise but we fell away under the combined load of injury, travel and ACL commitments. Knowing that we have more of the same to come in terms of crap fixturing (added to by the Jeff Horne rematch and concerts), an  aging squad, and travel,  without having really strengthened the depth of the squad, does little to encourage the fan base that we are in better shape to deal with it.   

I sense that the best we can hope for is coming third again. The fear is that we will not even achieve this.
Maybe the sense of excitement will develop if Roar get off to a good start.
Maybe the FFA Cup came will give us encouragement. We just live in hope.
I just look forwards to seeing the youngsters develop. Which is my main reason to keep coming along.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 08, 2017, 04:58:13 PM
It has been refreshing to have a lot more stability this off season for sure.
But to an extent, I think that negativity is the birth right of a football fan. And some things are not helping:

(1) Losing Thomas. It was always going to happen someday but the way that it happened has left a few bruises. It is the end of an era.
(2) Promises made about the Borrello / Maclaren replacement did not come to fruition and there has been little to no communication from JA to the fan base about how things worked out. People are left guessing about changes of formation and approach. The vacuum left by JA is being filled by negativity and speculation. The fan forum last week was about player development. It was made quite clear that other interests were off limit. eg The role of Danny Tiatto. So people are still waiting for communication and engagement. 
(3) Player age is a valid concern and was commented on by people outside the club.  It is the elephant in the room.
(4) Last season started with promise but we fell away under the combined load of injury, travel and ACL commitments. Knowing that we have more of the same to come in terms of crap fixturing (added to by the Jeff Horne rematch and concerts), an  aging squad, and travel,  without having really strengthened the depth of the squad, does little to encourage the fan base that we are in better shape to deal with it.   

I sense that the best we can hope for is coming third again. The fear is that we will not even achieve this.
Maybe the sense of excitement will develop if Roar get off to a good start.
Maybe the FFA Cup came will give us encouragement. We just live in hope.
I just look forwards to seeing the youngsters develop. Which is my main reason to keep coming along.
One other thing about that piece on the Roar Review by Adam Daunt.
No mention of our marquee man Holman. Very telling that he wasn't mentioned.  He absolutely needs a big season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 12, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
Rumour on Twitter that we are looking at a Spanish midfielder and an overseas CB: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896208366233571329
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: scribbo on August 13, 2017, 05:07:20 PM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: jamboree on August 14, 2017, 05:46:37 AM
Don't forget a pervious knee injury or two
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 14, 2017, 07:23:28 AM
Rumour on Twitter that we are looking at a Spanish midfielder and an overseas CB: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896208366233571329
Isnt the limit 23?
In which case Skapetis, if we keep him, and 2 newbies wont go.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 14, 2017, 07:56:01 AM
Rumour on Twitter that we are looking at a Spanish midfielder and an overseas CB: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896208366233571329
Isnt the limit 23?
In which case Skapetis, if we keep him, and 2 newbies wont go.

Looking at Fin's list, we had 21 with Oxborrow. I'm not sure whether Skapetis counts if he is on an injury replacement deal, but it would certainly make sense to leave a spot available if he turns out to be worth signing.

I do think it would make sense for us to be looking for another attacking mid, as Holman can't play every minute, especially if we have ACL.

I think if we have 21 players, sign another attacking mid and leave a spot open for Skapetis, that would make sense.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 14, 2017, 08:46:23 AM
Rumour on Twitter that we are looking at a Spanish midfielder and an overseas CB: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896208366233571329
Isnt the limit 23?
In which case Skapetis, if we keep him, and 2 newbies wont go.

Looking at Fin's list, we had 21 with Oxborrow. I'm not sure whether Skapetis counts if he is on an injury replacement deal, but it would certainly make sense to leave a spot available if he turns out to be worth signing.

I do think it would make sense for us to be looking for another attacking mid, as Holman can't play every minute, especially if we have ACL.

I think if we have 21 players, sign another attacking mid and leave a spot open for Skapetis, that would make sense.
Perhaps there is something going on with our CB fitness that we don't know about.
What is the situation with De Vere and Papa?
I am still struggling with the line up available against Victory and if there is talk about another CB it is a bit suspicious. Unless talking a genuine short term injury replacement for Bowles.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 14, 2017, 08:55:44 AM
Rumour on Twitter that we are looking at a Spanish midfielder and an overseas CB: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896208366233571329
Isnt the limit 23?
In which case Skapetis, if we keep him, and 2 newbies wont go.

Looking at Fin's list, we had 21 with Oxborrow. I'm not sure whether Skapetis counts if he is on an injury replacement deal, but it would certainly make sense to leave a spot available if he turns out to be worth signing.

I do think it would make sense for us to be looking for another attacking mid, as Holman can't play every minute, especially if we have ACL.

I think if we have 21 players, sign another attacking mid and leave a spot open for Skapetis, that would make sense.
Perhaps there is something going on with our CB fitness that we don't know about.
What is the situation with De Vere and Papa?
I am still struggling with the line up available against Victory and if there is talk about another CB it is a bit suspicious. Unless talking a genuine short term injury replacement for Bowles.

It is definitely strange. You'd think they would at least be ready for a half. Devere played 90 minutes against Penninsula Power (Saturday before a Wednesday FFA Cup game), so maybe he was being rested?

I think an additional CB makes sense if we do intend to use a 3 at the back formation. If any of North, Papa or Devere are injured, we move straight to Reardon who has no A-League experience.

We apparently have a behind closed doors friendly against the Wanderers at Robina on Friday, so hopefully we will see some of these "not yet ready" players getting a run.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 14, 2017, 03:58:01 PM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.

It appears you aren't wrong. According to that same account, we are looking at Salva Sevilla: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896946341204574208

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salva_Sevilla
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 14, 2017, 04:57:24 PM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.

It appears you aren't wrong. According to that same account, we are looking at Salva Sevilla: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896946341204574208

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salva_Sevilla
Is this a case of if at first you don't su?ceed (Hervas), then try (Arana) and try (Sevilla) again, or is it the definition  of insanity?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 15, 2017, 08:40:15 AM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.

It appears you aren't wrong. According to that same account, we are looking at Salva Sevilla: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896946341204574208

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salva_Sevilla
Is this a case of if at first you don't su?ceed (Hervas), then try (Arana) and try (Sevilla) again, or is it the definition  of insanity?

Surely you aren't suggesting that they stop looking at Spanish players all together?

The account the tweeted this said yesterday afternoon that the Nix were announcing a visa striker signing this morning, and they announced the signing of Andrija Kaluđerović. They seem pretty reliable.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 15, 2017, 09:11:05 AM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.

It appears you aren't wrong. According to that same account, we are looking at Salva Sevilla: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896946341204574208

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salva_Sevilla
Is this a case of if at first you don't su?ceed (Hervas), then try (Arana) and try (Sevilla) again, or is it the definition  of insanity?

Surely you aren't suggesting that they stop looking at Spanish players all together?

The account the tweeted this said yesterday afternoon that the Nix were announcing a visa striker signing this morning, and they announced the signing of Andrija Kaluđerović. They seem pretty reliable.
I think it is better to reserve limited spots for a young Aussie like Skapetis then rolling the dice with another aging ex La Liga player who is without  a club. Dont forget Corona actually had a gig and it was amazing we got him. I certainly dont want another Hervas or Arana.
And what is going on with our CBs ?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 15, 2017, 09:15:09 AM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.

It appears you aren't wrong. According to that same account, we are looking at Salva Sevilla: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896946341204574208

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salva_Sevilla
Is this a case of if at first you don't su?ceed (Hervas), then try (Arana) and try (Sevilla) again, or is it the definition  of insanity?

Surely you aren't suggesting that they stop looking at Spanish players all together?

The account the tweeted this said yesterday afternoon that the Nix were announcing a visa striker signing this morning, and they announced the signing of Andrija Kaluđerović. They seem pretty reliable.
I think it is better to reserve limited spots for a young Aussie like Skapetis then rolling the dice with another aging ex La Liga player who is without  a club. Dont forget Corona actually had a gig and it was amazing we got him. I certainly dont want another Hervas or Arana.
And what is going on with our CBs ?

I certainly agree that up and coming Australian players should be given more game time where possible. I think in that attacking midfield position, there aren't really many options (I could be wrong). It would have been nice to sign Daniel De Silva, but his connection with Okon brought him to CCM.

I certainly don't want another Hervas or Arana, but I think in our league where we have limited money and limited appeal, you will always have a couple of average signings for every gem.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 15, 2017, 05:37:04 PM
Both preferably over thirty I guess, seems to be the requirement now to have any chance of playing for the Roar.

It appears you aren't wrong. According to that same account, we are looking at Salva Sevilla: https://twitter.com/MrWalkerAgent/status/896946341204574208

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salva_Sevilla
Is this a case of if at first you don't su?ceed (Hervas), then try (Arana) and try (Sevilla) again, or is it the definition  of insanity?

Surely you aren't suggesting that they stop looking at Spanish players all together?

The account the tweeted this said yesterday afternoon that the Nix were announcing a visa striker signing this morning, and they announced the signing of Andrija Kaluđerović. They seem pretty reliable.
I think it is better to reserve limited spots for a young Aussie like Skapetis then rolling the dice with another aging ex La Liga player who is without  a club. Dont forget Corona actually had a gig and it was amazing we got him. I certainly dont want another Hervas or Arana.
And what is going on with our CBs ?

I certainly agree that up and coming Australian players should be given more game time where possible. I think in that attacking midfield position, there aren't really many options (I could be wrong). It would have been nice to sign Daniel De Silva, but his connection with Okon brought him to CCM.

I certainly don't want another Hervas or Arana, but I think in our league where we have limited money and limited appeal, you will always have a couple of average signings for every gem.
It looks like the Spaniard only managed 266 minutes last season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on August 16, 2017, 10:00:58 AM
Corona had such great history we knew what we were getting. Hopefully this guy is a gem and not a hervas.

Pop quiz, would we have a better squad and style of football if MM was kept? Autocrat yes...but is that so bad for a manager?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on August 16, 2017, 12:51:01 PM
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce (https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce)

I want to see this guy get minutes...will never happen. Doubt it will happen. Anone watched him live?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2017, 02:07:22 PM
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce (https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce)

I want to see this guy get minutes...will never happen. Doubt it will happen. Anone watched him live?

Is 33 or older or less than 161cms?  No?  Forget it.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on August 16, 2017, 02:56:01 PM
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce (https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce)

I want to see this guy get minutes...will never happen. Doubt it will happen. Anone watched him live?

Anyone who was at the Pen Power game did...I was not impressed... however..to be fair ... only saw him first half playing with the ressies...no one looked good except maybe Skapedis .... 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 16, 2017, 03:13:32 PM
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce (https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/liverpool-leader/wanderers-sign-emilio-martinez-on-his-18th-birthday/news-story/36729f6826c156efc2565594bca4f2ce)

I want to see this guy get minutes...will never happen. Doubt it will happen. Anone watched him live?

Anyone who was at the Pen Power game did...I was not impressed... however..to be fair ... only saw him first half playing with the ressies...no one looked good except maybe Skapedis ....

Agree. Didn't stand out playing with the youth team. I was sitting behind Aloisi and he was talking to Martinez a lot. Definitely sounded like he wasn't doing what he was meant to be doing.

Certainly compared to Caletti, the two seem miles apart in terms of being ready for first team football. He could surprise us though.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2017, 03:44:15 PM
Victory have signed an Argentinian  https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019)

We are long way off the pace if we look at Sydney, Victory and Wanderers.  Looking like a 3 way race for the titles to me.   Melbourne City are next.  We'll be fighting it out for 5th and 6th.   
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 16, 2017, 04:31:56 PM
Victory have signed an Argentinian  https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019)

We are long way off the pace if we look at Sydney, Victory and Wanderers.  Looking like a 3 way race for the titles to me.   Melbourne City are next.  We'll be fighting it out for 5th and 6th.

Could be a flop. Seems a strange signing, given they already have a very strong midfield. Surely they could have looked for an international to start ahead of Austin? Or a better LB?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on August 16, 2017, 04:57:11 PM
Victory have signed an Argentinian  https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019)

We are long way off the pace if we look at Sydney, Victory and Wanderers.  Looking like a 3 way race for the titles to me.   Melbourne City are next.  We'll be fighting it out for 5th and 6th.

Could be a flop. Seems a strange signing, given they already have a very strong midfield. Surely they could have looked for an international to start ahead of Austin? Or a better LB?

Looking to the ACL, I reckon.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 18, 2017, 07:42:44 AM
Victory have signed an Argentinian  https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019)

We are long way off the pace if we look at Sydney, Victory and Wanderers.  Looking like a 3 way race for the titles to me.   Melbourne City are next.  We'll be fighting it out for 5th and 6th.

Could be a flop. Seems a strange signing, given they already have a very strong midfield. Surely they could have looked for an international to start ahead of Austin? Or a better LB?

Looking to the ACL, I reckon.
A replacement for Rojas?
The scary thing about Victory's squad at Perry Park was the potential to improve the strength of the side.
This guy is 9 years younger than Big Mac.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on August 18, 2017, 08:55:42 AM
Victory have signed an Argentinian  https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/victory-sign-argentinean-midfielder-matias-sanchez-471019)

We are long way off the pace if we look at Sydney, Victory and Wanderers.  Looking like a 3 way race for the titles to me.   Melbourne City are next.  We'll be fighting it out for 5th and 6th.

Could be a flop. Seems a strange signing, given they already have a very strong midfield. Surely they could have looked for an international to start ahead of Austin? Or a better LB?

Looking to the ACL, I reckon.
A replacement for Rojas?
The scary thing about Victory's squad at Perry Park was the potential to improve the strength of the side.
This guy is 9 years younger than Big Mac.

He's a DM, so would be cover for Valeri and Milligan. I think that position is pretty important for the way they play, so it makes sense that they would have decent cover.

Maybe Muscat has more money/signings up his sleeve. If not, I still think he should have been looking for a LB, considering their options are either Stefan Nigro or Leigh Broxham (both being played out of position).
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on August 29, 2017, 09:24:51 PM
Just seen a report that Skapedis's contract will be upgraded from injury replacement to full contract for the  2017-2018 season..
Maybe still one more visa player to come.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on August 30, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
If this guy, gameiro and fbk stay fit we might do alight .. here's hoping
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Kingy on September 08, 2017, 10:02:01 PM
New Signing alert!

We have apparently ?ric Bauth?ac according to his twitter and Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/)

https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en (https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en)

There isn't a lot of info available on this guy but he looks like a decent pick up, decent age and lots of experience in Ligue 1.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac)


Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 08, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
New Signing alert!

We have apparently ?ric Bauth?ac according to his twitter and Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/)

https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en (https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en)

There isn't a lot of info available on this guy but he looks like a decent pick up, decent age and lots of experience in Ligue 1.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac)



try youtube
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 09, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
New Signing alert!

We have apparently ?ric Bauth?ac according to his twitter and Instagram:

[url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/[/url] ([url]https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/[/url])

[url]https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en[/url] ([url]https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en[/url])

There isn't a lot of info available on this guy but he looks like a decent pick up, decent age and lots of experience in Ligue 1.

[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac[/url] ([url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac[/url])



try youtube

http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/bautheac-eric-1 (http://www.ligue1.com/joueur/bautheac-eric-1)
The career stats show that he played 13 times for an average of 55 minutes last season.
His best days seem to have been at Nice.
Judging by the twitter things did not go smoothly at Lille.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Metz-fait-le-forcing-pour-eric-bautheac-lille/819115 (https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Metz-fait-le-forcing-pour-eric-bautheac-lille/819115)
There was interest from Metz. But my schoolboy French suggests Eric was not keen.
It appears that he was transfer listed in June 2017 by Marcelo Bielso the manager who came in in 2017.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 09, 2017, 09:55:50 AM
lets face it ...if he was still at his best he would not be here....however maybe he is just someone needing a new challenge and some change.These guys are always an unknown .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Kingy on September 09, 2017, 12:27:44 PM
New Signing alert!

We have apparently ?ric Bauth?ac according to his twitter and Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYxxfcdnSgC/)

https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en (https://twitter.com/bautheaceric?lang=en)

There isn't a lot of info available on this guy but he looks like a decent pick up, decent age and lots of experience in Ligue 1.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Bauth%C3%A9ac)



try youtube


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3CqPT201kk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3CqPT201kk)

Top ten goals, a few nice free kicks in there.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on September 09, 2017, 01:01:48 PM
Similar age to Thomas when he joined the club.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on September 09, 2017, 02:36:02 PM
So either absolute attack:

--------------Theo/Young-----------------
--------Devere---Papa---North-----------
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
Bautheac---Holman-----FBK----Skapetis
----------------Maccarone-----------------

or:

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Maccarone-------------FBK
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: BrynFC on September 09, 2017, 02:45:04 PM
it'll be interesting to see what he brings to the team.

Not to old at 30.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on September 09, 2017, 02:48:31 PM
So either absolute attack:

--------------Theo/Young-----------------
--------Devere---Papa---North-----------
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
Bautheac---Holman-----FBK----Skapetis
----------------Maccarone-----------------

or:

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Maccarone-------------FBK

I just love how you have slotted Bautheac straight into the starting eleven sight unseen.

You probably dont even know how to pronounce his name!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on September 09, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
So either absolute attack:

--------------Theo/Young-----------------
--------Devere---Papa---North-----------
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
Bautheac---Holman-----FBK----Skapetis
----------------Maccarone-----------------

or:

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Maccarone-------------FBK

I just love how you have slotted Bautheac straight into the starting eleven sight unseen.

You probably dont even know how to pronounce his name!

Sometimes, Sep, fans like me like to make educated assumptions about what their teams starting lineup might be. They might base this off the clubs current roster, a players pedigree, highlights etc.

People like you choose to make uneducated assumptions about other fans and stir the pot on online forums, which is fine, if that is your thing (which it clearly is)  ::)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Kingy on September 09, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
So either absolute attack:

--------------Theo/Young-----------------
--------Devere---Papa---North-----------
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
Bautheac---Holman-----FBK----Skapetis
----------------Maccarone-----------------

or:

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Maccarone-------------FBK

I can really see us ending up with a starting 11 like this after a few games

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Skapetis-------------FBK

Not sure who would play on the left wing as Bautheac has played predominantly as a left winger.

If we stay with a back three formation then Brown will be the left wing back as FBK won't have the engine to play that role.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on September 09, 2017, 03:58:44 PM
So either absolute attack:

--------------Theo/Young-----------------
--------Devere---Papa---North-----------
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
Bautheac---Holman-----FBK----Skapetis
----------------Maccarone-----------------

or:

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Maccarone-------------FBK

I can really see us ending up with a starting 11 like this after a few games

---------------Theo/Young-----------------
Hingert-----Devere-----Papa-------Brown
----------Kristensen----McKay------------
-----------------Holman-------------------
Bautheac-----Skapetis-------------FBK

Not sure who would play on the left wing as Bautheac has played predominantly as a left winger.

If we stay with a back three formation then Brown will be the left wing back as FBK won't have the engine to play that role.

That would certainly bring down the average age of the starting 11.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on September 09, 2017, 06:58:16 PM
Impressed with O'Toole today , massive work rate , can play in 433 or 343 looked good
McKay still up there at this level
Skeptetis scores again , could be signing of season
All n all a good hit out
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: spongebob on September 09, 2017, 11:04:56 PM
Anyone know if there is a preseason game next weekend?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Fixer on September 10, 2017, 09:36:14 AM
We play SYD FC away next week behind closed doors I believe .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: miron mercedes on September 10, 2017, 02:19:50 PM
I notice everyone spells Eric's surname name correctly ....but does anyone know how to pronounce it ??? ;D
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on September 10, 2017, 04:53:58 PM
I notice everyone spells Eric's surname name correctly ....but does anyone know how to pronounce it ??? ;D
As in this song:
https://youtu.be/MlrsqGal64w?t=47
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 11, 2017, 06:23:19 AM
According to Fox, Eric has had a full pre season, much like Corona which is encouraging and we may not have to wait months to see him start.
Arrives Wednesday.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on September 11, 2017, 09:56:20 AM
According to Fox, Eric has had a full pre season, much like Corona which is encouraging and we may not have to wait months to see him start.
Arrives Wednesday.

Ligue 1 season started at the beginning of August and he has only just been released so this would make sense. Would be great to have everyone available for round 1.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on September 11, 2017, 08:05:01 PM
http://www.espnfc.com/lille/story/3201163/marcelo-bielsa-decided-lille-players-future-in-45-seconds-eric-bautheac (http://www.espnfc.com/lille/story/3201163/marcelo-bielsa-decided-lille-players-future-in-45-seconds-eric-bautheac)

Marcelo Bielsa decided Lille players' future in 45 seconds - Eric Bautheac

Marcelo Bielsa cast out 12 established first-teamers at Lille this summer after talking to them for just 45 seconds, with former Nigeria international Vincent Enyeama among them.
Eric Bautheac was another and told L'Equipe how he ended two seasons at Lille on a low note after being banished from first-team training by Bielsa when he returned for preseason training in early July.
The former Nice man was not alone with Enyeama, Montenegro international Marko Basa and France international midfielder Rio Mavuba, who captained the Eden Hazard-inspired Double-winning team of 2010-11, among a group of senior pros cast aside.
Bautheac, who totalled 41 Ligue 1 appearances for the club, claimed Bielsa had given them no explanation for the measure in a brief chat.
"None at all," Bautheac replied when asked if the former Marseille manager had given a reason for their exclusion. "The first day when we arrived he spoke to us for 45 seconds and he left. We didn't see him again."
He added: "I thought Bielsa would at least test us. We were surprised and even more so when we saw that we were 12, and the oldest players to boot. I said to myself, 'It's fine, he wants the little 20-year-olds to be able to manage them.' With us, he wouldn't have managed in the same way."
Bautheac ended his underwhelming spell in northern France by signing a two-year deal with Australian club Brisbane Roar late in the transfer window. Before doing so, Lille had picked up just four points from their opening four league matches under Bielsa, and followed that with a goalless draw at home to Bordeaux last Friday.
Bautheac claimed the young squad would have benefitted by having more experienced players alongside them.
"When you see the squad they have, they lack a lot of experience," said the 30-year-old. "We experienced ones could have contributed that. He could have included us in preseason. After that he would have made his choice. We would have respected it. But like this, he didn't even give us the chance to prove ourselves. He kicked us out even before arriving..."
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dobo on September 12, 2017, 05:46:13 PM
Looks like he can hit a free kick a couple of nice ones there. Also reports that it he has signed a 2 year deal with us. https://youtu.be/L3CqPT201kk
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on September 16, 2017, 09:55:16 AM
So Eric was meant to arrive on Wednesday, however according to Marco's article yesterday he still hasn't arrived. Wonder what's happening.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on September 16, 2017, 10:23:44 AM
Looks like the Jets have a good pickup.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/jets-confirm-venezuelan-signing-473463 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/jets-confirm-venezuelan-signing-473463)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on September 16, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
Standard of the League looks like taking a jump from last year.   Which we need.  Last year wasn't great.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dsfarrell on September 16, 2017, 06:46:47 PM
Mellod, ,    Frenchman Eric Bauthetic's arrival has been delayed because of VISA delays.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on September 16, 2017, 07:33:19 PM
Mellod, ,    Frenchman Eric Bauthetic's arrival has been delayed because of VISA delays.

Thanks mate! Figured no reason to worry!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Finsta on September 19, 2017, 03:55:17 PM
Angela Beard has signed with Melbourne Victory.. F*&^@%$*@%$(*$@%(@^$#)(^@) @& %)@*^$)@*
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on September 21, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
anyone care to update this file from August

i have heard Pepper has moved to Cambodia for free..


Rumours/Possible Signings:
-

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
21. Mitchell Oxborrow
20. Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
19. Corey Gameiro
18. Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn)
17. Jade North
16. Matt McKay
15. Brett Holman (Marquee)
14. Nicholas D'Agostino
13. Connor O'Toole
12. Corey Brown
11. Jamie Young
10. Jack Hingert
9. Daniel Bowles
8. Michael Theo
7. Avram Papadopoulos
6. Jacob Pepper
5. Joe Caletti

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Transfers/Off Contract/Released (Last 10):
27/06/2017 - Kye Rowles - Released. Contract terminated by mutual consent. Signed with Central Coast Mariners.
21/06/2017 - Thomas Oar - Transfer. APOEL FC (Cyprus)
27/05/2017 - Brandon Borrello - Transfer. FC Kaiserslautern (Germany)
18/05/2017 - Nathan Konstandopoulos - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Cameron Crestani - Released. Youth Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Manuel Arana Rodriguez - Released. Contract Expired.
18/05/2017 - Joey Katebian - Released. Contract Expired.
17/05/2017 - Jamie Maclaren - Released. Contract Expired.
10/05/2017 - Thomas Broich - Released. Contract Expired.
06/02/2017 - Dimitri Petratos - Transfer. Ulsan Hyundai.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on September 21, 2017, 03:26:39 PM
I think it is just Peter Skapetis until the end of the 17/18 season and possibly Eric Bauteac until the end of the 18/19 season.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Kingy on September 21, 2017, 09:04:41 PM
Mellod, ,    Frenchman Eric Bauthetic's arrival has been delayed because of VISA delays.

Thanks mate! Figured no reason to worry!

So does anyone know if the French guy has turned up yet?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: dsfarrell on September 22, 2017, 11:11:41 AM

The latest Ive heard is that his VISA is right now but delay in his passport from the French government.  Wish the club would keepnus up to date.   
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 02, 2017, 11:13:36 AM
Anyone know how many minutes McClaren has clocked up in Germany?  Must be a very small figure.

Borello is finally starting to pick up some minutes off the bench.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on October 04, 2017, 05:57:07 AM
According to the official website, Dane Ingham will be an attacker
https://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/teams (https://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/teams)
Admin error or fact?
I believe someone said that is his more natural position, but not where he played last season or at NZ.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on October 05, 2017, 10:16:25 AM
So where did Broich end up - anyone know?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on October 05, 2017, 10:19:43 AM
So where did Broich end up - anyone know?


He has joined Brisbane City in a supporting/coaching role.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/thomas-broich-brisbane-city-coach-brisbane-roar-legend-begins-coaching-career/news-story/33d1e7749e0efb09b773cad5df72c240 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/thomas-broich-brisbane-city-coach-brisbane-roar-legend-begins-coaching-career/news-story/33d1e7749e0efb09b773cad5df72c240)
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 05, 2017, 11:48:58 AM
So where did Broich end up - anyone know?


He has joined Brisbane City in a supporting/coaching role.

[url]http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/thomas-broich-brisbane-city-coach-brisbane-roar-legend-begins-coaching-career/news-story/33d1e7749e0efb09b773cad5df72c240[/url] ([url]http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/thomas-broich-brisbane-city-coach-brisbane-roar-legend-begins-coaching-career/news-story/33d1e7749e0efb09b773cad5df72c240[/url])


But I understand that he is now back in Germany studying for his coaching badges.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: fulltilt on October 06, 2017, 12:20:07 PM
Found this in wikipedia.

In August 2017 Pepper completed a 'Next to Nothing' money move to the Cambodian Premier League, playing for Cambodia Tigers FC. He has yet to register a start after four rounds.

Also found this amusing headline from an old Phnom Penh post newspaper article

Turning pepper into 'black gold'
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: mellod on October 06, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
Found this in wikipedia.

In August 2017 Pepper completed a 'Next to Nothing' money move to the Cambodian Premier League, playing for Cambodia Tigers FC. He has yet to register a start after four rounds.

Also found this amusing headline from an old Phnom Penh post newspaper article

Turning pepper into 'black gold'

Interesting, considering I am pretty sure Pepper played against Olympic FC on September 9.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: jamboree on October 18, 2017, 03:58:44 PM
There is probably a more up to date list with proper numbers but with who would you keep to restructure/rebuild the team for next season. I think aloisi has got/kept the older players to bring through out future that are not ready:

-

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
Eric B **** build left side attack around him; could upgrade to marquee if does really well for maccarone
Peter Skapetis **** keep if possible; good player potentially
21. Mitchell Oxborrow ****keep -- potential as CM/CDM
20. 19. Corey Gameiro ***** good RW/Striker to build team around
18.17.
15. Brett Holman (Marquee) *** try to keep as non-marquee
14. Nicholas D'Agostino **** is he ready to be our goal scorer -- skapetis or gameiro better in my opinion
13. Connor O'Toole *** keep (can he takeover from brown ?)
12. Corey Brown ***keep
11. Jamie Young *** keep
10. Jack Hingert *** have my doubts but keep
9. Daniel Bowles *** keep

7. Avram Papadopoulos *** keep
 
5. Joe Caletti *** takeover from McKay --- big year this year to prove his worth and progression

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Players to be let go at end of season
Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
 Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn) --- I think they ll keep him for another year but shouldn't
Jade North - great servant to club but need to bring youth or give bowles a go; coaching role
16. Matt McKay - tough call but he needs to go at end of season or season after; coaching role ?
8. Michael Theo - let go if another injury hit season
6. Jacob Pepper - give youth a go



Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: jamboree on October 18, 2017, 04:01:09 PM
                                              young
hingert/ingham--------devere---------papa/bowles--------brown/o'toole

                             caletti------------TK/Oxborrow

skapetis/gameiro----------------Holman/Martinez/akbari-------------------EB/another ?end up FBK

                                                    D'Agostino/Skapetis
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 18, 2017, 05:03:51 PM
                                              young
hingert/ingham--------devere---------papa/bowles--------brown/o'toole

                             caletti------------TK/Oxborrow

skapetis/gameiro----------------Holman/Martinez/akbari-------------------EB/another ?end up FBK

                                                    D'Agostino/Skapetis

That's a team for the bottom 3, unfortunately.

Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: meetballs on October 20, 2017, 08:43:07 AM
WERE is Pepper at the Moment?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Orange Emperoar on October 20, 2017, 10:18:26 AM
WERE is Pepper at the Moment?
shh
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 20, 2017, 12:57:58 PM
McClaren not even blowing bubbles in Germany division 2.  Not sure what that says about the A League, but it certainly can't be construed as complimentary.

Shame for him and for us he left.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on October 20, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
And Tommy Oar had a grand total of about 73 minutes for those giants of world football APOEL after 7 league games last time i looked.

The vast majority of Australian players are better off in the A League.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 20, 2017, 03:24:24 PM
And Tommy Oar had a grand total of about 73 minutes for those giants of world football APOEL after 7 league games last time i looked.

The vast majority of Australian players are better off in the A League.

Yeah, it hasn't worked for either Macca, Borello or Oar.   Borello has probably the best chance of breaking through.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: theoworldwide on October 20, 2017, 07:24:30 PM
Eric given #22.....  Broich's #. Thoughts?

Personally, ... disappointed and bewildered.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: denzele on October 21, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
Eric given #22.....  Broich's #. Thoughts?

Personally, ... disappointed and bewildered.
Yeah same here . He wanted 11 but it's taken by Gamerio apparently .
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 21, 2017, 01:19:36 PM
Eric given #22.....  Broich's #. Thoughts?

Personally, ... disappointed and bewildered.

Agree. That jersey should have been retired with Thomas.  Profoundly disrespectful.  Typical of the Aloisis.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Murk on October 21, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Like everyone else I was disappointed the number wasn't retired. Broich's position in our history is unchallenged.
I suspect he had fought management over the style of football played and perhaps even stretching back beyond the Aloisis. He has probably been paying the price.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on October 21, 2017, 02:27:56 PM
Like everyone else I was disappointed the number wasn't retired. Broich's position in our history is unchallenged.
I suspect he had fought management over the style of football played and perhaps even stretching back beyond the Aloisis. He has probably been paying the price.

My take too, Murk.  Looks awfully like a spiteful piece of deliberateness.

My dislike of the current coaching regime knows no bounds. 
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Kingy on October 21, 2017, 10:19:13 PM
Eric given #22.....  Broich's #. Thoughts?

Personally, ... disappointed and bewildered.

Outrageous decision, I know that no single player should ever be bigger than the club but Thomas is a club immortal and deserved to have the jersey retired.

Just poor management, like their trying to sweep Broich under the rug.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: medley on October 22, 2017, 08:44:48 AM
Like everyone else I was disappointed the number wasn't retired. Broich's position in our history is unchallenged.
I suspect he had fought management over the style of football played and perhaps even stretching back beyond the Aloisis. He has probably been paying the price.

My take too, Murk.  Looks awfully like a spiteful piece of deliberateness.

My dislike of the current coaching regime knows no bounds. 

My thoughts too!
How do you support a team and club but not it's management!?
Until the current group of mis managers move on I'll do my own version of taking the knee!
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Septic Bladder on October 22, 2017, 09:13:38 AM
Like everyone else I was disappointed the number wasn't retired. Broich's position in our history is unchallenged.
I suspect he had fought management over the style of football played and perhaps even stretching back beyond the Aloisis. He has probably been paying the price.

My take too, Murk.  Looks awfully like a spiteful piece of deliberateness.

My dislike of the current coaching regime knows no bounds. 

My thoughts too!
How do you support a team and club but not it's management!?
Until the current group of mis managers move on I'll do my own version of taking the knee!


Gentlemen,

1. Was Broich a one club man?
2. Was he at the club over 10 years?
3. Was he the all time leading goal scorer?
4. Was he club captain?
5. Do you wear his name and number on your back?
6. Was he there from game 1
7. Do you want Matt's number retired when he finally leaves?

I think you are all being over emotional.

By your standards within 20 years ( the club should last that long?) all numbers will start in the 30's

Get over it and move on.

It's just a number.
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: artist formerly known as craigisroaring on October 22, 2017, 09:59:23 AM
Like everyone else I was disappointed the number wasn't retired. Broich's position in our history is unchallenged.
I suspect he had fought management over the style of football played and perhaps even stretching back beyond the Aloisis. He has probably been paying the price.

My take too, Murk.  Looks awfully like a spiteful piece of deliberateness.

My dislike of the current coaching regime knows no bounds. 

My thoughts too!
How do you support a team and club but not it's management!?
Until the current group of mis managers move on I'll do my own version of taking the knee!



Get over it and move on.



The irony
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Murk on October 22, 2017, 12:02:29 PM
There is probably a more up to date list with proper numbers but with who would you keep to restructure/rebuild the team for next season. I think aloisi has got/kept the older players to bring through out future that are not ready:

-

Coming off contract:
-

Contracted till the end of 2017/18 Season:
Eric B **** build left side attack around him; could upgrade to marquee if does really well for maccarone
Peter Skapetis **** keep if possible; good player potentially
21. Mitchell Oxborrow ****keep -- potential as CM/CDM
20. 19. Corey Gameiro ***** good RW/Striker to build team around
18.17.
15. Brett Holman (Marquee) *** try to keep as non-marquee
14. Nicholas D'Agostino **** is he ready to be our goal scorer -- skapetis or gameiro better in my opinion
13. Connor O'Toole *** keep (can he takeover from brown ?)
12. Corey Brown ***keep
11. Jamie Young *** keep
10. Jack Hingert *** have my doubts but keep
9. Daniel Bowles *** keep

7. Avram Papadopoulos *** keep
 
5. Joe Caletti *** takeover from McKay --- big year this year to prove his worth and progression

Contracted till the end of 2018/19 Season:
4. Shannon Brady
3. Thomas Kristensen (Fgn)
2. Luke DeVere

Contracted till the end of 2019/20 Season:
1. Dane Ingham

Players to be let go at end of season
Massimo Maccarone (Fgn) (Marquee)
 Fahid Ben Khalfallah (Fgn) --- I think they ll keep him for another year but shouldn't
Jade North - great servant to club but need to bring youth or give bowles a go; coaching role
16. Matt McKay - tough call but he needs to go at end of season or season after; coaching role ?
8. Michael Theo - let go if another injury hit season
6. Jacob Pepper - give youth a go




Like everyone else I was disappointed the number wasn't retired. Broich's position in our history is unchallenged.
I suspect he had fought management over the style of football played and perhaps even stretching back beyond the Aloisis. He has probably been paying the price.

My take too, Murk.  Looks awfully like a spiteful piece of deliberateness.

My dislike of the current coaching regime knows no bounds. 

My thoughts too!
How do you support a team and club but not it's management!?
Until the current group of mis managers move on I'll do my own version of taking the knee!


Gentlemen,

1. Was Broich a one club man?
2. Was he at the club over 10 years?
3. Was he the all time leading goal scorer?
4. Was he club captain?
5. Do you wear his name and number on your back?
6. Was he there from game 1
7. Do you want Matt's number retired when he finally leaves?

I think you are all being over emotional.

By your standards within 20 years ( the club should last that long?) all numbers will start in the 30's

Get over it and move on.

It's just a number.

Great to see you trolling for the Roar..
1 No he wasn't but he rebuilt his career with us and indeed ended it as  Roar player.
2 No.
3 Indeed he was not a striker and did not have his goal total boosted by taking penalties. For these purposes shouldn't penalties count as 15% of a regular goal..
4 Can't quite remember but I believe he did serve once or twice.
5 N/A
6 This is close to repetition of 2.
7 Not necessarily - and Matt has had two numbers.

Now explain why your questions deny us the sentiment we have for Broich's position in Roar history?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: Chico Raul on November 02, 2017, 05:54:21 AM
There is talk about about an injury replacement for De Vere.
Given the age of Jado and Papa, and yellow cards, red cards etc, we will need someone. We are one card away from being from a problem.
If and when Kristensen returns he may end up playing centre back.
What are the chances of finding an injury replacement?
Maybe from the local league?
Title: Re: Brisbane Roar Players Contracts/Info etc. #2
Post by: coast on November 02, 2017, 09:57:41 AM
There is talk about about an injury replacement for De Vere.
Given the age of Jado and Papa, and yellow cards, red cards etc, we will need someone. We are one card away from being from a problem.
If and when Kristensen returns he may end up playing centre back.
What are the chances of finding an injury replacement?
Maybe from the local league?

No player under 35 need apply.

We've already broken the oldest A League team ever fielded record twice this season.  The hat trick is within reach!