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Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: kb55 on August 14, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
TIM Cahill will take a $3 million-plus pay cut in his second season with Melbourne City.
The Socceroos legend, who arrives in Melbourne on Sunday and starts training with City on Monday, has been rewarded with a deal in excess of $3.5 million in his debut season with the club.
The Sunday Herald Sun can reveal that Cahill will move inside the salary cap in season two, meaning his 2017-18 salary is likely to be worth less than $400,000.
The combined Cahill playing package will be around $4 million ? far less than many had speculated ? though it?s likely to push $4.5-5 million once the Football Federation Australia subsidy and third-party deals are added.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 16, 2016, 11:58:37 AM
Prolific Finnish striker Aleksandr Kokko has successfully completed a medical at Newcastle Jets and has subsequently signed a two-season Hyundai A-League contract with Scott Miller's squad

http://www.a-league.com.au/article/a-league-transfer-news-finnish-finisher-aleksandr-kokko-joins-newcastle-jets/1k301cyhyhcks1tpqnteygb7se (http://www.a-league.com.au/article/a-league-transfer-news-finnish-finisher-aleksandr-kokko-joins-newcastle-jets/1k301cyhyhcks1tpqnteygb7se)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on August 21, 2016, 05:42:24 PM
I noticed the quote post the Sydney game from John Aloisi
"We'll have a couple more players come in and we're going to improve even more"
I am not sure if he means new players or if he means the likes of Luke de Vere finally.
But I figure at least one has to be a defender. I would like to see two.
Whilst pre-season does not count for much, three losses against three A League opponents suggests we are behind the field in terms of preparation.
Defence is a major worry and the old inability to turn possession into goals also a concern.
Given the off field histrionics though, it's remarkable that we are even  fielding a  competitive team.
Seven more weeks to go.

 

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on August 22, 2016, 05:47:52 AM
I noticed the quote post the Sydney game from John Aloisi
"We'll have a couple more players come in and we're going to improve even more"
I am not sure if he means new players or if he means the likes of Luke de Vere finally.
But I figure at least one has to be a defender. I would like to see two.
Whilst pre-season does not count for much, three losses against three A League opponents suggests we are behind the field in terms of preparation.
Defence is a major worry and the old inability to turn possession into goals also a concern.
Given the off field histrionics though, it's remarkable that we are even  fielding a  competitive team.
Seven more weeks to go.
The quote on Fox Sports news is "Aloisi, who has three vacant visa player spots up his sleeve, intends to add to his squad before the season as he looks to install more depth to his midfield and forward ranks."
Defensively last season we were poor. And again so far in pre-season. We have lost Stef, Polenz and Donachie; have yet to see de Vere play; we have brought in a couple of youngsters. North is getting on in years. I really don't see the desired two players for every position defensively. Go figure!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on August 22, 2016, 11:38:06 AM
I noticed the quote post the Sydney game from John Aloisi
"We'll have a couple more players come in and we're going to improve even more"
I am not sure if he means new players or if he means the likes of Luke de Vere finally.
But I figure at least one has to be a defender. I would like to see two.
Whilst pre-season does not count for much, three losses against three A League opponents suggests we are behind the field in terms of preparation.
Defence is a major worry and the old inability to turn possession into goals also a concern.
Given the off field histrionics though, it's remarkable that we are even  fielding a  competitive team.
Seven more weeks to go.
The quote on Fox Sports news is "Aloisi, who has three vacant visa player spots up his sleeve, intends to add to his squad before the season as he looks to install more depth to his midfield and forward ranks."
Defensively last season we were poor. And again so far in pre-season. We have lost Stef, Polenz and Donachie; have yet to see de Vere play; we have brought in a couple of youngsters. North is getting on in years. I really don't see the desired two players for every position defensively. Go figure!

At some point, the club will have to give up on Devere. 

I note that our losses in pre season appear to feature awful defensive work leading to opposition goals.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 22, 2016, 12:58:27 PM
We don't have many spots left to cover the positions we need.

                                   Young/Theo

Hingert/Bowles - Devere/Bowles - North/? - Brown/O'Toole

                                Kristiensen/Pepper

                     Dimi/Broich                McKay/?

Borello/?                                                              Oar/Broich

                                Maclaren/Katebian       

Obviously there are the younger guys who may come in (Brady/Rowles), however only JA knows whether they are up to standard. Given what was said in that article, perhaps he is confident that Devere will be fit and that Rowles will be an adequate back up?

Perhaps we will sign a Mid, RW and an established Striker?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on August 22, 2016, 03:06:22 PM
We don't have many spots left to cover the positions we need.

                                   Young/Theo

Hingert/Bowles - Devere/Bowles - North/? - Brown/O'Toole

                                Kristiensen/Pepper

                     Dimi/Broich                McKay/?

Borello/?                                                              Oar/Broich

                                Maclaren/Katebian       

Obviously there are the younger guys who may come in (Brady/Rowles), however only JA knows whether they are up to standard. Given what was said in that article, perhaps he is confident that Devere will be fit and that Rowles will be an adequate back up?

Perhaps we will sign a Mid, RW and an established Striker?

Any idea of Katebian's height?  We desperately need a striking option with some height and mass.  Macca's talented, obviously, but he's no use in the air and is easily muscled off the ball.  The option of putting someone with some height and size alongside him would be very desirable.

Why have we always had such short teams?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 22, 2016, 03:15:37 PM
We don't have many spots left to cover the positions we need.

                                   Young/Theo

Hingert/Bowles - Devere/Bowles - North/? - Brown/O'Toole

                                Kristiensen/Pepper

                     Dimi/Broich                McKay/?

Borello/?                                                              Oar/Broich

                                Maclaren/Katebian       

Obviously there are the younger guys who may come in (Brady/Rowles), however only JA knows whether they are up to standard. Given what was said in that article, perhaps he is confident that Devere will be fit and that Rowles will be an adequate back up?

Perhaps we will sign a Mid, RW and an established Striker?

Any idea of Katebian's height?  We desperately need a striking option with some height and mass.  Macca's talented, obviously, but he's no use in the air and is easily muscled off the ball.  The option of putting someone with some height and size alongside him would be very desirable.

Why have we always had such short teams?

Nothing I can find online, but judging by pictures, he is about the 5'10", so a fraction taller (but not really noticeable) than Jamie.

I would also really love if we could finally sign someone who can score goals from a free-kick. Someone like Marinković or Finkler. I never really expect us to score from either corners or free kicks. So many wasted opportunities.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: LiverROAR on August 22, 2016, 03:15:59 PM

Given what was said in that article, perhaps he is confident that Devere will be fit and that Rowles will be an adequate back up?

If this is the case we are well and truly shafted this season. Our parallels with Liverpool's defensive woes are far too close for my liking. We shipped too many goals last season and have started in the same vein this season. If JA and RA don't address our defensive frailties we will be cannon fodder throughout the season.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 22, 2016, 03:22:24 PM

Given what was said in that article, perhaps he is confident that Devere will be fit and that Rowles will be an adequate back up?

If this is the case we are well and truly shafted this season. Our parallels with Liverpool's defensive woes are far too close for my liking. We shipped too many goals last season and have started in the same vein this season. If JA and RA don't address our defensive frailties we will be cannon fodder throughout the season.

Agreed, and the FFA Cup game against Perth where both goals were conceded due to shoddy defending does not really inspire confidence in the upcoming season. How many spots do we have left in total? 3 visa spots, but do we have any more non-visa spots?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 22, 2016, 03:31:40 PM
We have 3 spots left in the senior squad. Just so happens that these can be foreign players as well.

On a side note, how tall is D'Agostino? If he does come back from his trial OS he's the other obvious striker option at present behind JMac.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 22, 2016, 03:45:26 PM
We have 3 spots left in the senior squad. Just so happens that these can be foreign players as well.

On a side note, how tall is D'Agostino? If he does come back from his trial OS he's the other obvious striker option at present behind JMac.


Once again, can only go off pictures. This picture shows him next to Kolo Toure who is 5'10": http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kolo+Toure+Nicholas+Agostino+Brisbane+Roar+wXWtZDK48Fcl.jpg (http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kolo+Toure+Nicholas+Agostino+Brisbane+Roar+wXWtZDK48Fcl.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on August 22, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
We don't have many spots left to cover the positions we need.

                                   Young/Theo

Hingert/Bowles - Devere/Bowles - North/? - Brown/O'Toole

                                Kristiensen/Pepper

                     Dimi/Broich                McKay/?

Borello/?                                                              Oar/Broich

                                Maclaren/Katebian       

Obviously there are the younger guys who may come in (Brady/Rowles), however only JA knows whether they are up to standard. Given what was said in that article, perhaps he is confident that Devere will be fit and that Rowles will be an adequate back up?

Perhaps we will sign a Mid, RW and an established Striker?

Funny we keep bangin on about not having / producing players yet we have 4 at u20s camp in Sydney and Dags over in Belgium .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on August 23, 2016, 05:31:47 AM
SBS report Lose would like to join the A-League
If anything he is (was)  a class above Timmy
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on August 23, 2016, 07:12:48 AM
SBS report Lose would like to join the A-League
If anything he is (was)  a class above Timmy

Klose ?
If so can we get him ? Far better than TC
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on August 23, 2016, 08:58:48 AM
Centre back on the market , Marcus Tulio , 35 yrs old 185cm will qualify as plus 1 for Asian cl , 35 yrs old .
Ideal alongside North and could teach the younger Backs a thing or 2......
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: LiverROAR on August 23, 2016, 09:37:21 AM
Centre back on the market , Marcus Tulio , 35 yrs old 185cm will qualify as plus 1 for Asian cl , 35 yrs old .
Ideal alongside North and could teach the younger Backs a thing or 2......
Are JA and CM targeting him or are you offering your scouting skills to the Club to help them through our latest financial crisis? 😜
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on August 23, 2016, 10:38:37 AM
Centre back on the market , Marcus Tulio , 35 yrs old 185cm will qualify as plus 1 for Asian cl , 35 yrs old .
Ideal alongside North and could teach the younger Backs a thing or 2......
Are JA and CM targeting him or are you offering your scouting skills to the Club to help them through our latest financial crisis? 😜

😂 Just looking at transfer market.com , lots of quality players on there.also CB looks to be our Achilles heel this year .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on August 23, 2016, 11:10:49 AM
Marco Rojas has been let go by Stuttgart. if we want a right wing there is a name i would go after. Klose will be out of our price range, apparently out of SFC's budget even with the ffa backing so will probably be 2 mill +
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on August 23, 2016, 11:17:26 AM
Marco Rojas has been let go by Stuttgart. if we want a right wing there is a name i would go after. Klose will be out of our price range, apparently out of SFC's budget even with the ffa backing so will probably be 2 mill +

Wanderers probably feel they don't need him to boost their crowds.  And they don't.  But he would be a good player for them.

On Rojas, would not be surprised to see him end up at Victory again.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 23, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
Marco Rojas has been let go by Stuttgart. if we want a right wing there is a name i would go after. Klose will be out of our price range, apparently out of SFC's budget even with the ffa backing so will probably be 2 mill +
Rojas would command decent coin you'd think. Also with Borrello, Oar, Broich, Brady and Katebian would we go for a quality winger when we're short in other areas?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: goalfeast on August 23, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Because he's a kiwi?, does he take up a visa spot though.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 23, 2016, 12:26:46 PM
Because he's a kiwi?, does he take up a visa spot though.
Yeah he would do. We've got 3 open as it stands though.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: nick92 on August 23, 2016, 04:05:00 PM
He can play as an AM, can he not?

I think he'll go to Victory anyway.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Septic Bladder on August 23, 2016, 05:25:49 PM
What player will come to a club in such a shambles?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on August 23, 2016, 08:00:32 PM
What player will come to a club in such a shambles?

No one in there right mind would come here at the moment,

If the club can sort out its issues, then maybe we will be able get a decent marquee next season.

Broich will be off contract, so that will free up some coin, but even then a decent player would want to see that we are stable.

big name players in the end of their careers aren't going to up up with any shit.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 24, 2016, 03:24:59 PM
Bulut has re-signed with WSW for 2 years: http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/bulut-back-in-red--black/1han60eq763c41ok45svbl5s1i?camefrom=EMCL_1237246_47530823 (http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/bulut-back-in-red--black/1han60eq763c41ok45svbl5s1i?camefrom=EMCL_1237246_47530823)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 24, 2016, 03:35:19 PM
**Moderator Edit**

Just split the last 2 pages from previous thread (reached 50 pages)..

Continue.....
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 24, 2016, 03:37:06 PM
Bulet has re-signed with WSW for 2 years: [url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/bulut-back-in-red--black/1han60eq763c41ok45svbl5s1i?camefrom=EMCL_1237246_47530823[/url] ([url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/bulut-back-in-red--black/1han60eq763c41ok45svbl5s1i?camefrom=EMCL_1237246_47530823[/url])

Risky move but could pay off. Bottom line, can't be worse than Piovaccari last season!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mightyroar on August 24, 2016, 05:08:29 PM
Marco Rojas has been let go by Stuttgart. if we want a right wing there is a name i would go after. Klose will be out of our price range, apparently out of SFC's budget even with the ffa backing so will probably be 2 mill +
Rojas would command decent coin you'd think. Also with Borrello, Oar, Broich, Brady and Katebian would we go for a quality winger when we're short in other areas?

Brady didn't get any game time last season, not sure why people include him in our squad depth. He is completely frozen out and isn't rated by any of the players or coaching staff. Another example of poor judgement by Ken Stead to lock him down for 4 years.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on August 24, 2016, 06:43:45 PM
4yrs Ffs , mmmmm
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on August 24, 2016, 07:24:40 PM
Ken Stead was a fucking disaster.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 25, 2016, 09:21:34 AM
Marco Rojas has been let go by Stuttgart. if we want a right wing there is a name i would go after. Klose will be out of our price range, apparently out of SFC's budget even with the ffa backing so will probably be 2 mill +
Rojas would command decent coin you'd think. Also with Borrello, Oar, Broich, Brady and Katebian would we go for a quality winger when we're short in other areas?

Brady didn't get any game time last season, not sure why people include him in our squad depth. He is completely frozen out and isn't rated by any of the players or coaching staff. Another example of poor judgement by Ken Stead to lock him down for 4 years.
Fair enough. Didn't realise he was that far away from 1st team action.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 25, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Marco Rojas has been let go by Stuttgart. if we want a right wing there is a name i would go after. Klose will be out of our price range, apparently out of SFC's budget even with the ffa backing so will probably be 2 mill +
Rojas would command decent coin you'd think. Also with Borrello, Oar, Broich, Brady and Katebian would we go for a quality winger when we're short in other areas?

Brady didn't get any game time last season, not sure why people include him in our squad depth. He is completely frozen out and isn't rated by any of the players or coaching staff. Another example of poor judgement by Ken Stead to lock him down for 4 years.
Fair enough. Didn't realise he was that far away from 1st team action.

You'd hope if he was ambitious, he may ask for a release and try to go elsewhere to actually see game time and improve. Of course you would also hope that he would be on minimum salary and that he may just be bumping up the squad numbers.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 25, 2016, 11:08:34 AM
Reports on twitter that Victory will announce Marco Rojas on a 2 year deal today.

If so, I really don't see any weaknesses in their team and they will be very hard to beat.

Assuming:

               Thomas

Geria - Baro - Donachie - Georgievski
 
                   Valeri

         Troisi             Bozanic

Khalfallah                             Rojas
 
                   Berisha
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 25, 2016, 01:21:52 PM
Reports on twitter that Victory will announce Marco Rojas on a 2 year deal today.

If so, I really don't see any weaknesses in their team and they will be very hard to beat.

Assuming:

               Thomas

Geria - Baro - Donachie - Georgievski
 
                   Valeri

         Troisi             Bozanic

Khalfallah                             Rojas
 
                   Berisha


Now confirmed: http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/article/marco-rojas-returns-to-melbourne-victory/10qnmhocq1cea12qhf10keacc5 (http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/article/marco-rojas-returns-to-melbourne-victory/10qnmhocq1cea12qhf10keacc5)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Harry H on August 25, 2016, 01:43:09 PM
They are welcome to Rojas.... He's been in poor form since his broken foot. He may be able to turn his luck around at MV.
You should always be nice to the clubs you leave on the way up, because you always need them on the way back down.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on August 25, 2016, 02:10:10 PM
A lot of that starting team was in their champion team from two seasons ago, and were in it again last season. I see some aging hacks, some young prospects that are now meant to be in their best years, but still haven't made it, and some who have had a go overseas but have been found wanting.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 25, 2016, 02:56:47 PM
Victory seem to be able to replenish their squad with equal or better players season on season now. City have bottomless pockets so they're likely to go big every season from now on too. Both Sydney teams are trying to get up there too. For us I think we're in between but worryingly without decent direction we may be getting a bit left behind now that our quality players are just about done and dusted. Yes we have the likes of JMac and Borrello coming through but they can't carry the whole team. Adelaide and Perth are teams that's trying to keep up with the top tier too and spending plenty of $$$.. I'm most worried about the likes of the Nix, Jets and Mariners who may find the struggle to stay really competitive continue to build.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 27, 2016, 03:11:16 PM
Henrique has signed with Adelaide. :-(
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: spongebob on August 27, 2016, 05:00:25 PM
Henrique has signed with Adelaide. :-(
Disappointed with that news. All the best to him and i hope he does well down there but not so well we regret not resigning him
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on August 27, 2016, 05:47:26 PM
Henrique has signed with Adelaide. :-(
Disappointed with that news. All the best to him and i hope he does well down there but not so well we regret not resigning him
WTF !!??
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 27, 2016, 06:47:36 PM
Sad for him that the move didn't work out for him. Seemed like his opportunity to get some decent money before retiring. I recall reading that JA had the opportunity to re-sign him, but obviously he has decided not to. I am sure he was still looking for decent money and I don't think we would have been willing to fork out for a bench player.

All the best to him. Will miss the times he saved our asses, will not miss all the attempted crosses into the box to him when he was a foot too short.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Benny on August 28, 2016, 05:21:30 AM
Very disappointing. All the best Ricky
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on August 28, 2016, 05:07:34 PM
Surprised this took so long, it was strongly rumoured about a month ago.

His best days are behind him though, no one can forget that he was a champ when he played for us.



Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: medley on August 28, 2016, 05:54:42 PM
I thought the rumour a month ago was that he was going to come back to the Roar.
Good for him.
It'll be interesting to see if he plays the 90 where hes less effective or as a "supersub".

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on August 28, 2016, 07:05:25 PM
I thought the rumour a month ago was that he was going to come back to the Roar.
Good for him.
It'll be interesting to see if he plays the 90 where hes less effective or as a "supersub".

Thats the thing with rumours, no one really knows...

I never thought JA would take him back, so it was highly likely Adelaide would pick him up after losing half their squad.

It will be interesting to see how he goes playing 90 minutes, as at 31 years old he would had made sure he was going to play 90min before signing.

I don't personally think he will be as effective as a 90 min player... he's best when taking on tired defences, in the last 20min.

he could prove me wrong...
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: fulltilt on August 28, 2016, 10:33:03 PM
Clut. The one that got away. Report from Jets pre season game in China.

After a goalless first 45 in Huludao in China?s north, the game sprung to life in the second stanza when Clut - who only entered the game at the start of the second period - fired a sweet strike beyond Liaoning custodian Zhang Zhengqiang in the 47th minute to give Scott Miller?s side the lead. - See more at: http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#sthash.a4bb5JP0.dpuf (http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#sthash.a4bb5JP0.dpuf)
Read more at http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#xLOj1r1d5hAHKdTh.99 (http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#xLOj1r1d5hAHKdTh.99)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on August 29, 2016, 06:03:45 AM
Clut. The one that got away. Report from Jets pre season game in China.

After a goalless first 45 in Huludao in China?s north, the game sprung to life in the second stanza when Clut - who only entered the game at the start of the second period - fired a sweet strike beyond Liaoning custodian Zhang Zhengqiang in the 47th minute to give Scott Miller?s side the lead. - See more at: [url]http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#sthash.a4bb5JP0.dpuf[/url] ([url]http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#sthash.a4bb5JP0.dpuf[/url])
Read more at [url]http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#xLOj1r1d5hAHKdTh.99[/url] ([url]http://www.a-league.com.au/article/jets-win-in-china-roar-cruise/n0v6uxnbmq8154sb4zfcgf7d#xLOj1r1d5hAHKdTh.99[/url])

Yes. Strange that rather than target a defender, JA is after an attacking midfielder. And as you say. Here is one that got away. And Lustica. I assume he was thinking of losing one but not two.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 29, 2016, 11:01:35 AM
Paul Okon has been confirmed as the Mariners new Manager. Massive job ahead for him.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on August 29, 2016, 11:52:23 AM
Paul Okon has been confirmed as the Mariners new Manager. Massive job ahead for him.

It's going to be a Huge job....he will need a few experienced player to help out with the youth team he has.

Good to see another aussie get a shot at managing :D
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on August 31, 2016, 05:06:29 PM
With the transfer deadline in Europe coming to end and seasons under way, I am wondering where these mooted visa signings are coming from.
Stefanutto, Henrique, Clut, Hervas, Donachie, Lustica, Solerzano, Corona,  Polenz gone
Kristensen, Pepper, Katebian, O'Toole, Rowles and Caletti in.
Admittedly some deadwood gone and some fresh young talent in, but the worry is that by now pickings in regards to visa players are slim.
I recall we ended up with Hervas as a last minute thing, and look how that turned out. And Corona was very, very  unusual as his season has started.
Either there is going to be an announcement very soon, or it will just be youth and a few older players. It is not looking good.
There is a rumour about interest in Dimi too. Unlikely I'd say, but we could loose him.

Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 31, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
Aloisi could know that things have been left too late and is waiting until January to bring in someone proper.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Septic Bladder on August 31, 2016, 06:27:29 PM
Aloisi could know that things have been left too late and is waiting until January to bring in someone proper.

So basically you are saying this coming season is a write off and that all that at best he can start preparing for the next.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 31, 2016, 07:07:55 PM
Aloisi could know that things have been left too late and is waiting until January to bring in someone proper.

So basically you are saying this coming season is a write off and that all that at best he can start preparing for the next.

I'm saying perhaps he will do the best he can until January and try to make a solid run into the finals.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: fulltilt on August 31, 2016, 07:27:23 PM
No don't be silly. He's waiting for the European transfer window to close tonight so we can sift through the homeless
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on August 31, 2016, 08:01:50 PM
No don't be silly. He's waiting for the European transfer window to close tonight so we can sift through the homeless
Yep...some good free agent bargains to be had
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: fulltilt on August 31, 2016, 08:26:44 PM
Funny I have the visual of all the A league coaches rummaging through a throw out table and tucking players under their arms while try continue to sift and hold up bargains in the light to check if the size fits their requirements.

Then turning them over to try to find a price stamped on them somewhere.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 01, 2016, 08:12:42 AM
Shane Cansdell-Sherriff was a free agent, and might have been an option for a one season contract as he would be similar to Bowles able to cover both central defence and left back.
But I think he is 33 so getting on and anyway he is gone to Manly.
You can pick this sort of thing up from google and Kilkenny was one of the names that popped up and is spoken for.
I assume that rather than use google, the likes of Craig Moore has a more bespoke list somewhere. You'd like to think.
You would think that JA and Craig would have a good look at Australians playing overseas.
Jamie Young was playing at a lower level than the likes of Cansdell-Sherriff and that was a good move for us. So I figure there are players out there, but it is leaving it way too late.
Corona was unique in that he turned up fit to play. Anyone coming in now is more than likely not fit. It doesn't get better the longer this goes on; and the longer it goes on, the more waiting for January becomes a better option. Please! Not another Hervas!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Darksigno on September 01, 2016, 08:13:27 AM
Funny I have the visual of all the A league coaches rummaging through a throw out table and tucking players under their arms while try continue to sift and hold up bargains in the light to check if the size fits their requirements.

Then turning them over to try to find a price stamped on them somewhere.

this is exactly what it is like, and we wouldn't be the only league doing it, TBH its the only way I do business in fifa aswell so I understand completely haha, TBH tho I doubt the Bakries are going to put up money for transfer fees seeing as we have had the usual off season of non payments to players so these bargain buys would have been the only way Aloisi can sign visa players
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Darksigno on September 01, 2016, 08:15:38 AM
Shane Cansdell-Sherriff was a free agent, and might have been an option for a one season contract as he would be similar to Bowles able to cover both central defence and left back.
But I think he is 33 so getting on and anyway he is gone to Manly.
You can pick this sort of thing up from google and Kilkenny was one of the names that popped up and is spoken for.
I assume that rather than use google, the likes of Craig Moore has a more bespoke list somewhere. You'd like to think.
You would think that JA and Craig would have a good look at Australians playing overseas.
Jamie Young was playing at a lower level than the likes of Cansdell-Sherriff and that was a good move for us. So I figure there are players out there, but it is leaving it way too late.
Corona was unique in that he turned up fit to play. Anyone coming in now is more than likely not fit. It doesn't get better the longer this goes on; and the longer it goes on, the more waiting for January becomes a better option. Please! Not another Hervas!


instead of using google use the site www.transfermarkt.com/ (http://www.transfermarkt.com/) very indepth on players who are out of contract, probs the closest thing we could use to what JA and Moore have IMO
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on September 01, 2016, 08:47:20 AM
Shane Cansdell-Sherriff was a free agent, and might have been an option for a one season contract as he would be similar to Bowles able to cover both central defence and left back.
But I think he is 33 so getting on and anyway he is gone to Manly.
You can pick this sort of thing up from google and Kilkenny was one of the names that popped up and is spoken for.
I assume that rather than use google, the likes of Craig Moore has a more bespoke list somewhere. You'd like to think.
You would think that JA and Craig would have a good look at Australians playing overseas.
Jamie Young was playing at a lower level than the likes of Cansdell-Sherriff and that was a good move for us. So I figure there are players out there, but it is leaving it way too late.
Corona was unique in that he turned up fit to play. Anyone coming in now is more than likely not fit. It doesn't get better the longer this goes on; and the longer it goes on, the more waiting for January becomes a better option. Please! Not another Hervas!

He was also unique because he was sent our way by Kenny Lowe when they realised he wouldn't fit with them. Not sure how often that happens, however I am glad it did.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on September 01, 2016, 12:11:32 PM
City have now signed Danish central defender Michael Jakobsen: http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/city-signs-danish-defender/au6z5iqvv7hp1s2pkchumabzi (http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/city-signs-danish-defender/au6z5iqvv7hp1s2pkchumabzi)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on September 01, 2016, 02:25:25 PM
City are looking very, very strong.  The Melbourne derby should be a cracker.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mightyroar on September 01, 2016, 02:39:12 PM
City are looking very, very strong.  The Melbourne derby should be a cracker.

They have a strong spine, but their fullbacks leave a lot to be desired. Manny Muscat and Josh Rose are liabilities nowadays, and aren't really signings you would expect for a glamour club.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on September 01, 2016, 03:17:04 PM
City are looking very, very strong.  The Melbourne derby should be a cracker.

They have a strong spine, but their fullbacks leave a lot to be desired. Manny Muscat and Josh Rose are liabilities nowadays, and aren't really signings you would expect for a glamour club.
Agreed. They definitely looked like poo in the FFA Cup game against Strikers.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on September 15, 2016, 02:56:10 PM
Apparently Melbourne Victory are in discussions with representatives of Michael Essien.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on September 15, 2016, 03:11:33 PM
Apparently Melbourne Victory are in discussions with representatives of Michael Essien.

They have also won every single pre-season game so far. Very strong squad on paper, even if they don't sign Essien.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on September 15, 2016, 03:46:46 PM
Apparently Melbourne Victory are in discussions with representatives of Michael Essien.

i saw that in SBS football news, At 33 he is not over the hill.

Hopefully they can sign him, it'll be great for the league
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: OTTO on September 15, 2016, 06:23:18 PM
                                  *Theo                                                                                    *Theo

    *Hingert    *Devere             *North           *Brown  >OR<    *Hingert     *Devere             *North           *Brown   

                      *Kristiensen       *McKay                             


           *Holman         *Broich             *Oar                             *Holman     *Kristiensen        *McKay           *Oar     
     
                               

                                  *Maclaren                                                                    *Maclaren       *Broich 
       
just trying to think about how the team will fit together. I Cant seem to place Dimi or borello as holman will start right but if i recall he is an out and out attacking mid... On that thought may Broich not start ? Will 4-3-3 still be the go too ? May give a better idea of what type of players JA is looking for... hmmm LB or CB or a super sub  :P  hope D'agostino and katebian can make an impact.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on September 15, 2016, 08:47:10 PM
                                  *Theo                                                                                    *Theo

    *Hingert    *Devere             *North           *Brown  >OR<    *Hingert     *Devere             *North           *Brown   

                      *Kristiensen       *McKay                             


           *Holman         *Broich             *Oar                             *Holman     *Kristiensen        *McKay           *Oar     
     
                               

                                  *Maclaren                                                                    *Maclaren       *Broich 
       
just trying to think about how the team will fit together. I Cant seem to place Dimi or borello as holman will start right but if i recall he is an out and out attacking mid... On that thought may Broich not start ? Will 4-3-3 still be the go too ? May give a better idea of what type of players JA is looking for... hmmm LB or CB or a super sub  :P  hope D'agostino and katebian can make an impact.
I think your first formation could be the one.

Although more likely it'd be in a 4-3-3 setup.
               
                       Theo(Young could be given first crack)

Hingert         DeVere         North       Brown

                        Kristensen

             Holman                McKay

      Broich                                Oar

                       Maclaren

Dunno about Broich on the right. He prefers the left. Oar did spend plenty of time in midfield whilst in Europe so perhaps he goes back in there with Kristensen and McKay and Homan shifts to right win and Broich to the left?

Decisions decisions! lol
   
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 18, 2016, 06:38:21 AM
I rewatched the Roar v Victory yesterday. The Finals game and our last home fixture last season. This was the week after the 0-0 draw against Victory reserves.
Roar were woeful and could not compete against Victory in the tackle. It was a remarkable game. Brown made a bucket load of errors and had a torrid time but was brave and  influential in coming forwards. Young's distribution was terrible. Victory were on top most of the game.
Henrique was excellent when he came on against a tiring Melbourne. But for most of the game everyone else was well below par. To their credit they kept playing. Whereas Melbourne (true to form) got frustrated, committed atrocious fouls and ended up with 10  players. Arguably Finkler and Barbarouses should have also gone. 
So looking at the above formation, I am wondering how we will fare this season?  Is this a better squad?
Championships are built on good defensive foundations.
Hopefully Kristensen will add the class and steel that we lacked defensively. And hopefully De Vere will give a bit more composure. No pressure!
And hopefully the work rates of the likes of Holman and Mackay will be influential as much defensively as going forwards
Henrique will not be with us, to come on an help as he did so many times before. He was excellent in his last game at home.
And whilst Corona was poor in that last home game and struggled with the physicality, he was outstanding for the most part of the season.
My take is that we possibly overachieved last season, and rode into the finals due to a good first round when the likes of Adelaide were still sorting themselves out.
That shocking finals loss against Wanderers summed it up. We struggled under pressure. Woeful against crosses. Switched off. And could not keep the ball all too often. 
Those two finals games gave us a good picture of where we were.
So far we have not seen enough in pre season against A-League opposition to give us much confidence of improvement.
One thing in our favour is Hervas has left the building.
 
 


 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on September 18, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
I rewatched the Roar v Victory yesterday. The Finals game and our last home fixture last season. This was the week after the 0-0 draw against Victory reserves.
Roar were woeful and could not compete against Victory in the tackle. It was a remarkable game. Brown made a bucket load of errors and had a torrid time but was brave and  influential in coming forwards. Young's distribution was terrible. Victory were on top most of the game.
Henrique was excellent when he came on against a tiring Melbourne. But for most of the game everyone else was well below par. To their credit they kept playing. Whereas Melbourne (true to form) got frustrated, committed atrocious fouls and ended up with 10  players. Arguably Finkler and Barbarouses should have also gone. 
So looking at the above formation, I am wondering how we will fare this season?  Is this a better squad?
Championships are built on good defensive foundations.
Hopefully Kristensen will add the class and steel that we lacked defensively. And hopefully De Vere will give a bit more composure. No pressure!
And hopefully the work rates of the likes of Holman and Mackay will be influential as much defensively as going forwards
Henrique will not be with us, to come on an help as he did so many times before. He was excellent in his last game at home.
And whilst Corona was poor in that last home game and struggled with the physicality, he was outstanding for the most part of the season.
My take is that we possibly overachieved last season, and rode into the finals due to a good first round when the likes of Adelaide were still sorting themselves out.
That shocking finals loss against Wanderers summed it up. We struggled under pressure. Woeful against crosses. Switched off. And could not keep the ball all too often. 
Those two finals games gave us a good picture of where we were.
So far we have not seen enough in pre season against A-League opposition to give us much confidence of improvement.
One thing in our favour is Hervas has left the building.
 
 


 


Good thumbnail analysis, CR.  Agree with all your observations of the game, from memory.

I think we have two big issues:  our left back; and our lack of cutting edge up front when McClaren is taken out the game.  For me, Borello was a major disappointment last season.  He just hasn't come on.  Both Broich and McKay are woeful finishers. Oar isn't a goal scorer.  Holman will hopefully make a difference.  I'm hoping that Katebian turns out to offer something near goal.

I wasn't nearly as much of a fan of Corona as some people. He made a lot of nothing passes, was poor defensively, and actually turned the ball over a lot. I was pleased to see him go. 

Rd 1 against Victory is going to be very interesting.  However, I fear we are going in seriously undercooked. 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Septic Bladder on September 18, 2016, 01:30:48 PM
Does anyone else think that this pre season has been the least intense, least number of games ever?

Will they be under done come round 1?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on September 18, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
Does anyone else think that this pre season has been the least intense, least number of games ever?

Will they be under done come round 1?
I think we will have had about the same as the last few years...just that 4 (?) of them were behind closed doors, so the exposure to the fans has been less
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 19, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
Does anyone else think that this pre season has been the least intense, least number of games ever?

Will they be under done come round 1?
I think we will have had about the same as the last few years...just that 4 (?) of them were behind closed doors, so the exposure to the fans has been less
JA has come out on the official website and said he believes the team is ahead of this time last year.
He also recognises that defending set plays is something they have worked on.
Maybe the  Perth game will tell us something although being behind closed doors, perhaps not.
A problem with comparisons with last year, is that other teams also seek to improve. So measuring against A-League teams is a better yardstick. And so far, we have not impressed.
They say preseasons count for nothing. Let's hope so.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: goalfeast on September 19, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
I wouldn't be guided by what the fox pundits have to say either. They always say Sydney will be up there.  But as it turns out they are always site shit.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on September 19, 2016, 08:33:42 PM
On paper the likes of Sydney, Wanderers, Victory, City, Adelaide, Perth and Wellington have recruited very well. The Jets and Mariners look well behind the 8-Ball..

We're in an interesting situation. We've still got a core of players that we know that can get the job done but they're ageing and will it be one season too many for the veterans? Time will tell. We will need another cracking season out of Maclaren. Borrello and Brown will need to improve as well.

On a whole I don't think there will be 1 club that dominates the whole season. It's gonna be a close race like last season.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on September 19, 2016, 11:00:43 PM
Adelaide have lost half their squad , Sydney FC have recruited not very much and WSW could be anything .
The rest have recruited pretty decent squads.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 20, 2016, 08:04:37 AM
The Roar Review have just started a preview of our players starting with goal keepers.
https://theroarreview.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/2016-17-season-preview-goalkeepers/ (https://theroarreview.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/2016-17-season-preview-goalkeepers/)
The stand out stat from last season is 1 clean sheet from 9 appearances by Theo. 7 from 21 by Jamie.
 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on September 20, 2016, 09:51:12 AM
Adelaide have lost half their squad , Sydney FC have recruited not very much and WSW could be anything .
The rest have recruited pretty decent squads.

Yeah adl look short a player or two but Holland will be a good pick up, Henrique should do well for them and if the spanish striker does well they should be very competitive. FC look short on defensive depth but have a good first team if they stay injury free, the rest of the squad look good with only Bobo untested (but has big wraps on him). WSW could be anything with pretty much another new squad but on paper look better than last year.

I am starting to get an uneasy feeling about our squad as it is looking more and more like JA's time with Heart, A very capable first team but only young or fringe squad players as depth. JA's time with heart was marred with injury and he couldn't get his preferred 11 on the pitch and had to rely on depth. Kristensen has had troubles in preseason and his replacement is pepper or calettie, if Mclaren gets a call up/injury the replacement is Katebian or Daggers, If North and Devere are both out we get O'toole or Rowles, we dont have any cover for Brown (someone that has not lasted a whole season yet),

Sure all can probably do a job and fill gaps when needed but these are names that make me uneasy if we are relying on getting significant game time out of. really it is the two wings and two CM positions that we have plenty of (quality) cover for
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 20, 2016, 08:24:07 PM
Does anyone else think that this pre season has been the least intense, least number of games ever?

Will they be under done come round 1?

I think we will have had about the same as the last few years...just that 4 (?) of them were behind closed doors, so the exposure to the fans has been less

JA has come out on the official website and said he believes the team is ahead of this time last year.
He also recognises that defending set plays is something they have worked on.
Maybe the  Perth game will tell us something although being behind closed doors, perhaps not.
A problem with comparisons with last year, is that other teams also seek to improve. So measuring against A-League teams is a better yardstick. And so far, we have not impressed.
They say preseasons count for nothing. Let's hope so.

There is a bit of encouragement after today's game. I looked at the Perth web-site to get the other view of today's game
http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/brisbane-take-the-honours-in-sydney-friendly/yen4gpi9p8rl10pyx5gbqbzup (http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/brisbane-take-the-honours-in-sydney-friendly/yen4gpi9p8rl10pyx5gbqbzup)
http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-front-three-fire-in-glory-win/1ooqwwhhu6uil1rqupzn7zwr15 (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/roar-front-three-fire-in-glory-win/1ooqwwhhu6uil1rqupzn7zwr15)
It sounds like Perth were not able to create too many chances despite a lot of possession.  Diego Castro played and so did Taggart.
It's only a pre season game but better to win by 4 rather than get thumped at any time
Sounds like Borello was in good touch and De Vere played for seventy
And sounds like  Dimi's goal was like the one he got down at Melbourne City last season
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on September 21, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
Adelaide have now confirmed signing Holland on a 2 year deal: http://www.adelaideunited.com.au/article/reds-bring-holland-to-adelaide/4ok1sv896zzs12dm53367xvk2 (http://www.adelaideunited.com.au/article/reds-bring-holland-to-adelaide/4ok1sv896zzs12dm53367xvk2)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: OTTO on September 21, 2016, 03:56:05 PM
Nice one pretty happy with 4-0!!!I was pretty upset watching perth get us 2-0 at Ballymore.I wish we could see some footage!

talking about squad depth team looks pretty full i guess. more then a few young lads hoping they can step up.
seems as if JA will keep some spots open and get someone later on.with afc might be useful as well.

would be good if we worked the sets pieces more. Not just defense but really capitalizing on them haha.
thinking DeVere and Kristensen might get a couple of headers for us.

transfermarkt.com  ;D  love this web site haha

impact players
http://www.transfermarkt.com/byung-soo-yoo/profil/spieler/114831 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/byung-soo-yoo/profil/spieler/114831)

http://www.transfermarkt.com/kim-ojo/profil/spieler/91225 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/kim-ojo/profil/spieler/91225)

blokes with skillz
http://www.transfermarkt.com/david-texeira/profil/spieler/143182 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/david-texeira/profil/spieler/143182)

http://www.transfermarkt.com/mohammed-aoulad/profil/spieler/143223 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/mohammed-aoulad/profil/spieler/143223)

http://www.transfermarkt.com/zavon-hines/profil/spieler/67081 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/zavon-hines/profil/spieler/67081)

LB's
http://www.transfermarkt.com/kevin/profil/spieler/163654 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/kevin/profil/spieler/163654)

http://www.transfermarkt.com/abel-tamata/profil/spieler/123513 (http://www.transfermarkt.com/abel-tamata/profil/spieler/123513)










Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 30, 2016, 06:02:56 AM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/09/29/roar-snap-spanish-ace-rodriguez (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/09/29/roar-snap-spanish-ace-rodriguez)
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/brisbane-roar-signs-former-la-liga-winger-manuel-arana-rodrguez-on-oneyear-deal/news-story/48c909488cd7f13b74312395a419e60a (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/brisbane-roar-signs-former-la-liga-winger-manuel-arana-rodrguez-on-oneyear-deal/news-story/48c909488cd7f13b74312395a419e60a)
A new Spanish winger!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 30, 2016, 06:25:06 AM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/09/29/roar-snap-spanish-ace-rodriguez[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2016/09/29/roar-snap-spanish-ace-rodriguez[/url])
[url]http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/brisbane-roar-signs-former-la-liga-winger-manuel-arana-rodrguez-on-oneyear-deal/news-story/48c909488cd7f13b74312395a419e60a[/url] ([url]http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/brisbane-roar-signs-former-la-liga-winger-manuel-arana-rodrguez-on-oneyear-deal/news-story/48c909488cd7f13b74312395a419e60a[/url])
A new Spanish winger!

Looking at his FIFA 16 score he looks like he will be a corner taker (80 for crossing)  and possibly dead ball specialist (82 for curving and 83  for shot power)
Not really great on the physical side. And 59 for stamina though and 35 for defending. There would have to be a question mark on suitability. A guess straight competition for Borrello going forwards but will he have the required work rate?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on September 30, 2016, 08:16:51 AM
Looks alright...did we really need a right winger though?

I would have preferred a more verstile player...who could play AM and RW in case Holman is out.

Still... looks promising
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on September 30, 2016, 09:43:46 AM
Looks alright...did we really need a right winger though?

I would have preferred a more verstile player...who could play AM and RW in case Holman is out.

Still... looks promising
I was not enthused about Hervas and I am not excited by this one. 
I thought last year JA left a few out in preference to Hervas, and to the detriment of the team. Almost as if he had to be there as a visa player brought in by JA.
Then again, I thought Corona was very good though some disagree. So let's hope this is a good one.
I still think we need help and height in defence as a priority. Stop the leaking and defensive implosions and we are in with a chance.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on September 30, 2016, 10:02:32 AM
interesting signing ...wasn't really expecting another before January . I guess like everyone else we are wary because of the Hervas signing . Hope he is a superstar for us . 
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mightyroar on September 30, 2016, 10:14:33 AM
A few rumours that we're after Thwaite also. If true, we would have a very strong squad.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Darksigno on September 30, 2016, 10:35:50 AM
A few rumours that we're after Thwaite also. If true, we would have a very strong squad.

This rumour gets thrown around every year since gold coast was disbanded, I wouldn't look to much into it tbh
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Besty on September 30, 2016, 01:15:31 PM
Borrowed from 442 forums, Aloisi's new formation:

---------------------theo-------------------
------------------devere---------------------------
---------kristensen----mackay----------
--------------------holman------------------
arana-petratos-borello-maclaren-broich-oar
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Kingy on September 30, 2016, 01:52:59 PM
Borrowed from 442 forums, Aloisi's new formation:

---------------------theo-------------------
------------------devere---------------------------
---------kristensen----mackay----------
--------------------holman------------------
arana-petratos-borello-maclaren-broich-oar

Hahaha this is exactly on the money. We absolutely need Thwaite if he is available. At the moment we have enough players for about 3 front lines. Yet we have no cover for McKay and Kristensen (I don't really believe pepper is good enough) and 1 defensive cover (Bowles) assuming the kids we signed probably aren't ready for the a-league. Not to mention were supposed to be competing in the ACL.

Forget about Forlan and sign a defender stat.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mightyroar on September 30, 2016, 02:04:35 PM
Borrowed from 442 forums, Aloisi's new formation:

---------------------theo-------------------
------------------devere---------------------------
---------kristensen----mackay----------
--------------------holman------------------
arana-petratos-borello-maclaren-broich-oar

Hahaha this is exactly on the money. We absolutely need Thwaite if he is available. At the moment we have enough players for about 3 front lines. Yet we have no cover for McKay and Kristensen (I don't really believe pepper is good enough) and 1 defensive cover (Bowles) assuming the kids we signed probably aren't ready for the a-league. Not to mention were supposed to be competing in the ACL.

Forget about Forlan and sign a defender stat.

I agree. Thwaite is versatile as well, he can cover CB and CDM where he played on the odd occasion for Perth.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on September 30, 2016, 04:34:50 PM
interesting signing ...wasn't really expecting another before January . I guess like everyone else we are wary because of the Hervas signing . Hope he is a superstar for us . 
Looks like he left / was released by Mallorca in June, and has been holding out for another contract since. We have him on a 1 year deal....hopefully he's fit enough to play some time during that contract....
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on September 30, 2016, 05:07:49 PM
Looks alright...did we really need a right winger though?

I would have preferred a more verstile player...who could play AM and RW in case Holman is out.

Still... looks promising
All the you tube footage I could find shows him playing on the left, and cutting in on to his right foot...a la Broich....so I think we have another left winger....I can only hope Mallorca was playing him out of position in those clips...
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on September 30, 2016, 05:34:31 PM
Agree with the above.  This guy wasn't really needed. We have no cover for DM. Thwaite would be huge for us. Could play DM or CB. Also a winning personality
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on September 30, 2016, 05:35:33 PM
Also a winning personality
He is a massive dickhead and whinger.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on September 30, 2016, 05:39:04 PM
When Pepper was discarded by Popovic after an average stint at Newcastle I was surprised we signed him. May JA felt pressured at the time to find DM injury cover. If Thwaite was signed Pepper really should be moved on. He is blocking opportunity for local talent
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on September 30, 2016, 05:40:18 PM
Also a winning personality
He is a massive dickhead and whinger.

Haha yeah... but I think you wouldn't really care if he's doing a job for us
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on September 30, 2016, 05:48:41 PM
We needed someone better than Borello to start. Hoping we still sign another CB/DM or LB/CB.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Kingy on September 30, 2016, 09:24:01 PM
I think this guy could be a good signing, but he is an unknown. He has a better pedigree than Hervas had anyway.

We have heard rumours about Thwaite for a while now and even though he is a douche he would be perfect for us now as a short term solution. Otherwise we need at least one utility defender. Hopefully it's a case of,  In JA we trust.

One week till  round 1, lets get keen!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on September 30, 2016, 11:24:43 PM
When Pepper was discarded by Popovic after an average stint at Newcastle I was surprised we signed him. May JA felt pressured at the time to find DM injury cover. If Thwaite was signed Pepper really should be moved on. He is blocking opportunity for local talent

Maybe pepper will suprise you this year and show you how much you don't know about the game ? Maybe also JA has more of an idea about the player he wants in team ?
Many maybes to work out over the long weekend , lol .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Harry H on October 01, 2016, 06:38:43 AM
When Pepper was discarded by Popovic after an average stint at Newcastle I was surprised we signed him. May JA felt pressured at the time to find DM injury cover. If Thwaite was signed Pepper really should be moved on. He is blocking opportunity for local talent

Maybe pepper will suprise you this year and show you how much you don't know about the game ? Maybe also JA has more of an idea about the player he wants in team ?
Many maybes to work out over the long weekend , lol .

There will be no surprises from Pepper this year or next. Of course JA has an idea about the players he wants. All coaches do.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on October 01, 2016, 09:00:31 AM
When Pepper was discarded by Popovic after an average stint at Newcastle I was surprised we signed him. May JA felt pressured at the time to find DM injury cover. If Thwaite was signed Pepper really should be moved on. He is blocking opportunity for local talent


Maybe pepper will suprise you this year and show you how much you don't know about the game ? Maybe also JA has more of an idea about the player he wants in team ?
Many maybes to work out over the long weekend , lol .


There will be no surprises from Pepper this year or next. Of course JA has an idea about the players he wants. All coaches do.

Finally the squad has been updated on the official website
http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/team/a_league (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/team/a_league)
Something is wrong with the Roar calculators I fear.
With four defence positions and the object of two players contending for every position, my maths says we should see 8 players
But then we knew that all along.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on October 01, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
Missing Rowles and OToole as they were away with Aus u20s when photos were taken. :)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on October 01, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
When Pepper was discarded by Popovic after an average stint at Newcastle I was surprised we signed him. May JA felt pressured at the time to find DM injury cover. If Thwaite was signed Pepper really should be moved on. He is blocking opportunity for local talent

Maybe pepper will suprise you this year and show you how much you don't know about the game ?

Is that you Jacob? OK prove me wrong pal I'll be watching.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: suspectandy on October 02, 2016, 06:09:32 AM
I think we're fine at CB, we have Devere and North, with Bowles as cover (also a youth player as 4th choice). LB is really where we're (always) in trouble.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: LiverROAR on October 02, 2016, 09:53:48 AM
I think we're fine at CB, we have Devere and North, with Bowles as cover (also a youth player as 4th choice). LB is really where we're (always) in trouble.
We ain't Robinson Crusoe in that department.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on October 02, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
I think we're fine at CB, we have Devere and North, with Bowles as cover (also a youth player as 4th choice). LB is really where we're (always) in trouble.
We ain't Robinson Crusoe in that department.

Another season with Corey Brown as the starting LB.  I always hope the kid will take the step up he needs, but...
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on October 02, 2016, 03:19:12 PM
I think we're fine at CB, we have Devere and North, with Bowles as cover (also a youth player as 4th choice). LB is really where we're (always) in trouble.
We ain't Robinson Crusoe in that department.

Another season with Corey Brown as the starting LB.  I always hope the kid will take the step up he needs, but...
I'm hoping a penny dropped for him, during the off season, and he'll be exactly what we need ....
...and I believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus and Unicorns.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on October 19, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Victory defender Scott Galloway has left the club. Rumour is that he's headed to the Mariners.

Victory have also announced the loan signing of German attacker Maximilian Beister from FSV Mainz 05 for this season. Currently 26 he played for the national team in the U/21s back in the day.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Harry H on October 19, 2016, 11:45:35 AM
Victory defender Scott Galloway has left the club. Rumour is that he's headed to the Mariners.

Victory have also announced the loan signing of German attacker Maximilian Beister from FSV Mainz 05 for this season. Currently 26 he played for the national team in the U/21s back in the day.

Galloway confirmed at CCM....
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on October 19, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
Promising to see that the age of imports is dropping to mid/late 20s. It's a good sign that the league is becoming more respected.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Yowie Dude on October 19, 2016, 10:20:12 PM
Victory have also announced the loan signing of German attacker Maximilian Beister from FSV Mainz 05 for this season. Currently 26 he played for the national team in the U/21s back in the day.


(http://i66.tinypic.com/mtw1o1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on October 20, 2016, 11:09:43 AM
Victory have also announced the loan signing of German attacker Maximilian Beister from FSV Mainz 05 for this season. Currently 26 he played for the national team in the U/21s back in the day.


([url]http://i66.tinypic.com/mtw1o1.jpg[/url])

You forgot to add Nadine Angerer as the female version from Terminator 3!  :P
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on October 25, 2016, 08:01:43 PM
I have just read that Henrique is out with a serious injury indefinitely.
That really sucks. Very sad for the guy.
Grade two medial ligament (MCL) injury.
He was brought down by Melbourne Victory midfielder, Bozanic in the Victory game. 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: FireBlades19 on November 01, 2016, 09:28:16 AM
I have just read that Henrique is out with a serious injury indefinitely.
That really sucks. Very sad for the guy.
Grade two medial ligament (MCL) injury.
He was brought down by Melbourne Victory midfielder, Bozanic in the Victory game. 


that sucks, i hurt for the fellow.....

but again its a melbourne victory player injuring another teams go to guy, how many times are the big boys going to bash up the small blokes before the ref steps in????
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on November 01, 2016, 01:20:16 PM
Shame he was playing really well for a afc. they'll miss him!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on November 01, 2016, 02:11:18 PM
I have just read that Henrique is out with a serious injury indefinitely.
That really sucks. Very sad for the guy.
Grade two medial ligament (MCL) injury.
He was brought down by Melbourne Victory midfielder, Bozanic in the Victory game. 


that sucks, i hurt for the fellow.....

but again its a melbourne victory player injuring another teams go to guy, how many times are the big boys going to bash up the small blokes before the ref steps in????

It was completely accidental.  Just unlucky, that's all.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on December 20, 2016, 02:15:01 PM
Vedran Janjetovic has swapped Sydney FC for WSW..
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on December 20, 2016, 04:16:36 PM
Vedran Janjetovic has swapped Sydney FC for WSW..

Goodbye Redders.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on December 20, 2016, 05:43:41 PM
I read that Rhys Williams may be available in the transfer window.
I assume it is fallout from the bust up at Perth.
With Jade North being 35 should we be looking to the future?
Jado is outstanding but can't last forever.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on December 20, 2016, 06:42:11 PM
I read that Rhys Williams may be available in the transfer window.
I assume it is fallout from the bust up at Perth.
With Jade North being 35 should we be looking to the future?
Jado is outstanding but can't last forever.
No thanks.. No doubt Rhys is quality but he's had a very injury prone career so far.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: FireBlades19 on December 23, 2016, 09:56:23 AM
I read that Rhys Williams may be available in the transfer window.
I assume it is fallout from the bust up at Perth.
With Jade North being 35 should we be looking to the future?
Jado is outstanding but can't last forever.
No thanks.. No doubt Rhys is quality but he's had a very injury prone career so far.

he'd be a good squaddie in that case... use him for games here and there and maybe not pay too much over for that....
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on December 23, 2016, 10:05:53 AM
He might stay injury free, but for the above average risk of serious reinjury, the inflated money he would want and his probable 'I almost made it in the epl but my body failed me now I'm back with you bums' melodrama he's probably worth passing on.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on March 13, 2017, 08:26:21 PM
SST posted on Twitter that we are looking at Roy O'Donovan for next season. Would make sense with Jamie heading off elsewhere. Think he would do well.

Obviously they post a bunch of crap so probably isn't accurate.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on March 13, 2017, 09:46:13 PM
SST posted on Twitter that we are looking at Roy O'Donovan for next season. Would make sense with Jamie heading off elsewhere. Think he would do well.

Obviously they post a bunch of crap so probably isn't accurate.
Mariners will want to keep him and I can't see that we could offer a better deal than them. There will be other cashed up clubs ahead of us, should he make a move.
I actually think Paul Okon is building a good team at Mariners and they will want O'Donovan to stay.
O'Donovan was at Coventry as was JA, but a decade later so it is hard to see a personal connection. And JA's future is not exactly secure either.
So I would think it is indeed a bunch of crap.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 08, 2017, 02:54:37 PM
WSW News: Brendan Hamill re-signs for 2 seasons and Jerrad Tyson for 1 season.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 09, 2017, 10:42:41 AM
Jets News: Ernie Merrick has been announced as their Manager for next season.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 09, 2017, 11:10:10 AM
Sydney FC have re-signed Ninkovic. I am sure Johnny Aloisi will make an equally impressive signing.

http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-re-sign-star-midfielder/z3ve7j2ojnwr1hqkf9roryh1b (http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-re-sign-star-midfielder/z3ve7j2ojnwr1hqkf9roryh1b)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 09, 2017, 11:34:12 AM
Sydney FC have re-signed Ninkovic. I am sure Johnny Aloisi will make an equally impressive signing.

[url]http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-re-sign-star-midfielder/z3ve7j2ojnwr1hqkf9roryh1b[/url] ([url]http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-re-sign-star-midfielder/z3ve7j2ojnwr1hqkf9roryh1b[/url])

It's be interesting to see a list of Sydney players coming off contract. Does Arnie have most of the quality locked in already? I know Ibini is only on loan from Club Brugge but no doubt he'd love to keep him onboard.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 09, 2017, 11:48:12 AM
Sydney FC have re-signed Ninkovic. I am sure Johnny Aloisi will make an equally impressive signing.

[url]http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-re-sign-star-midfielder/z3ve7j2ojnwr1hqkf9roryh1b[/url] ([url]http://www.sydneyfc.com/article/sydney-fc-re-sign-star-midfielder/z3ve7j2ojnwr1hqkf9roryh1b[/url])

It's be interesting to see a list of Sydney players coming off contract. Does Arnie have most of the quality locked in already? I know Ibini is only on loan from Club Brugge but no doubt he'd love to keep him onboard.


From their starting XI:

Vuka: Already signed and wants and extension/to finish his career there
Zullo: Another year on his contract
Buijs: Unknown
Wilkinson: Another year on his contract
Grant: Another two years on his contract
O'Neill: Another year on his contract
Brillante: Another two years on his contract
Brosque: Uncontracted, but rumoured to be willing to take whatever is left of the cap once other players are re-signed so he can stay
Ninkovic: New marquee contract
Bobo: Rumoured to be getting the other marquee spot with a one year extension
Holosko: Rumoured to be going in under the cap (Sydney FC fans also spouting that he offered his marquee spot so they could keep Ninkovic, similar to the Broich/Bes situation at Roar)

As for their bench, Ibini will likely go back to Belgium, Carney will stay on, Redmaybe will stay on, Milos Dimitrievic is rumoured to sign on again, Matt Simon won't go anywhere.

If the can find a replacement for Ibini and re-sign Buijs or find a similar CB, they will be pretty much the same side again next season.

It must be a strange feeling having your best players want to stay at the club...
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 09, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
Cheers for that update mate.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mongie on May 09, 2017, 12:47:18 PM
It must be a strange feeling having your best players want to stay at the club...

I think that is where money plays a big role. Something the Roar don't seem to have. Correct me if I'm wrong,

I heard Arnold talking about the stuff they do to make the players happy... Having a Chef that cooks for them... Good facilities. We don't have any of that (as far as I know).
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on May 09, 2017, 01:21:57 PM
Good update...those perks are pretty amazing. I'm glad they'll have a strong acl team and hal team again. We need teams to set high benchmarks. If Arnold is to be the future socceroos coach it's good to have him test himself in the acl.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 09, 2017, 01:57:46 PM
It pays to remember that Sydney finished 7th in the 2015/16 season and Adelaide first. It just goes to show that there are no perfect path to continued glory in the A-League and all clubs with some smart moves/recruitments etc can most definitely feature at the business end.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on May 09, 2017, 02:18:18 PM
Some of these comments show why its important to have continuity in the management side, so you can build a solid team over the years with relationships building..

We have signed in the past players to 5 and 3 year contracts and then sacked the manager... the new guy can then only work with what he has and again have to rebuild over time.

Sydney only had one player from the last GF they lost to Melb, and have rebuilt steadily..

P
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 09, 2017, 02:27:14 PM
Some of these comments show why its important to have continuity in the management side, so you can build a solid team over the years with relationships building..

We have signed in the past players to 5 and 3 year contracts and then sacked the manager... the new guy can then only work with what he has and again have to rebuild over time.

Sydney only had one player from the last GF they lost to Melb, and have rebuilt steadily..

P
Good point mate.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: infamous on May 09, 2017, 04:51:08 PM
Some of these comments show why its important to have continuity in the management side, so you can build a solid team over the years with relationships building..

We have signed in the past players to 5 and 3 year contracts and then sacked the manager... the new guy can then only work with what he has and again have to rebuild over time.

Sydney only had one player from the last GF they lost to Melb, and have rebuilt steadily..

P
Agreed but funnily enough with that all said and done, the chaos in almost every off season, constantly losing players we somehow have the best record in making the finals (7 consecutive seasons, 9 times in the past 10 seasons).

2007-08 4th (Semi Finals)
2008-09 3rd (Semi Finals)
2009-10 9th (DNP)
2010-11 1st (Champions)
2011-12 2nd (Champions)
2012-13 5th (Semi Final)
2013-14 1st (Champions)
2014-15 6th (Eliminated in 1st round of Finals)
2015-16 3rd (Semi Finals)
2016-17 3rd (Semi Finals)

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 10, 2017, 03:54:05 PM
Adelaide News: Amor has apparently told the team that he's leaving. Headed back to Spain apparently.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 11, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
Sydney FC News: Matt Simon re-signed for a season.

NO IT IS NOT THE 1ST OF APRIL
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 11, 2017, 04:04:04 PM
WSW News: Club releases today (According to Ray Gatt on Twitter): Dimas, Nichols, Neville, Pinatares, Griffiths, Zinni, Emilio Martinez. Nico Martinez & Terry Antonis return to mother clubs.

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Of the above releases there's been chat that Nichols, Neville and Griffith already have plans to join other clubs (Nichols OS, Neville to Perth & Griffith OS).
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on May 11, 2017, 05:39:17 PM
Sydney FC News: Matt Simon re-signed for a season.

NO IT IS NOT THE 1ST OF APRIL
He must be Arnold's love child
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on May 11, 2017, 06:07:15 PM
WSW News: Club releases today (According to Ray Gatt on Twitter): Dimas, Nichols, Neville, Pinatares, Griffiths, Zinni, Emilio Martinez. Nico Martinez & Terry Antonis return to mother clubs.

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Of the above releases there's been chat that Nichols, Neville and Griffith already have plans to join other clubs (Nichols OS, Neville to Perth & Griffith OS).

Good grief, how old is Griffiths?  Some of these guys just don't know when to call it day, do they?

Imagine being in your late 30s and still doing nothing but play football.  We sure ain't talking about people who are easily bored.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on May 11, 2017, 06:33:01 PM
Adelaide have lost carusca too. 34 I think....
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on May 11, 2017, 08:05:08 PM
Adelaide have lost carusca too. 34 I think....

It was very clear this year was one season too long for the big C.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 12, 2017, 04:54:42 PM
Victory News: Leaving: Nick Ansell, Khalfallah, Baro, Mahazi(retiring), George Howard, Alistair Bray & Lucas Spinella. (Georgievski already announced as leaving too).
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on May 12, 2017, 07:54:15 PM
Victory News: Leaving: Nick Ansell, Khalfallah, Baro, Mahazi(retiring), George Howard, Alistair Bray & Lucas Spinella. (Georgievski already announced as leaving too).
Howard I think was the big guy who played up here.  Only 20. I would think JA would know him from his coaching of the Victory youth. Probably better than Katebian.
Surprised that Baro is going. He really was instrumental in keeping Macca quiet in the semi.
I have said before that we really should pick up Khalfallah but I think someone said dollars would be the issue.  10 times better than Arana.
I suppose Victory want to use some of that money from these guys going to improve Rohas and Troisi's contracts although they could use a marquee spot.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 15, 2017, 10:21:54 AM
Glen Moss has moved from the Nix to the Jets.

Jacob Poscoliero has moved from CCM to Perth.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 15, 2017, 03:12:51 PM
Victory News: Rhys Williams confirmed for the club. 2 year deal.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 15, 2017, 03:15:28 PM
Sydney FC News: Defender Jordy Buijs has signed on for another season.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on May 15, 2017, 03:51:51 PM
The longer we wait for confirmation of Joe Caletti's signature the more worrying it will become.
Looks like a few clubs are sorting themselves out.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on May 15, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
Perth have lost Dino Djulbic
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 16, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
Wanderers have confirmed the signings of Michael Twaite, Josh Risdon and Roly Bonevacia.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 16, 2017, 01:40:04 PM
Wanderers have confirmed the signings of Michael Twaite, Josh Risdon and Roly Bonevacia.
Very solid signings..
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 16, 2017, 04:12:05 PM
Victory News: Matt Acton has signed on for another season.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 16, 2017, 06:15:22 PM
Sydney FC has re-signed Bobo.

Geez some clubs are getting things done quick.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on May 16, 2017, 08:08:13 PM
Wanderers have confirmed the signings of Michael Twaite, Josh Risdon and Roly Bonevacia.
Very solid signings..

Agree.  It worries me that we are once again being very slow off the mark.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on May 17, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
Wanderers have confirmed the signings of Michael Twaite, Josh Risdon and Roly Bonevacia.
Very solid signings..

Agree.  It worries me that we are once again being very slow off the mark.
Re Wanderers: Fox is reporting  Mitch Nichols has been charged with possession of cocaine at a Sydney nightclub.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: scribbo on May 17, 2017, 07:37:16 PM
I see Brisbane Roar Football Club has confirmed it has released Manuel Arana, Cameron Crestani, Joey Katebian and Nathan Konstandopoulos.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 18, 2017, 01:45:13 PM
Robbie Kruse and James Holland have reportedly walked away from their Chinese club citing failure of the club to meet contractual obligations.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on May 18, 2017, 02:43:13 PM
Would swap kruse for oar in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on May 19, 2017, 09:18:19 AM
Would swap kruse for oar in a heartbeat.

por que no los dos?

Kruse will likely be wanting marquee wages BUT if he wants to sure up his spot at the World cup next year he has to be playing well and regularly, that may mean that he is willing to come under the cap at an a-league club. I think Victory, Sydney or Brisbane are the only clubs that he would consider (clubs that have an opening in the wing position and are playing ACL next season). there is no way sydney can fit him under the cap with all there recent signings so Vic or Bris, and Vic would have to play either him or rojas on the left.

He will have to have done a whole heap of maturing to come back here and do well (last time he couldn't stay out of the nightclubs) his move to Vic did him a world of good. If he comes here he would have to avoid his old haunts and habits.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 19, 2017, 10:38:34 AM
I think Kruse is past his best now.

He's played stuff all games in the last few years and at 28 he should be hitting prime form and development.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on May 19, 2017, 10:43:43 AM
Finsta .. totally agree with that !!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 19, 2017, 10:58:15 AM
He certainly isn't marquee quality, but I think, given a full pre-season, he could certainly do a job in the A-League. If we could get him under the cap, I think it would be worth the risk.

Edit: Mark Milligan has shown, however, that you can go after the big money in the UAE and be selected for the roos, so there isn't really any incentive for him to come back here.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 19, 2017, 02:02:06 PM
Jets News: Kantarovski re-signs for another season.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 19, 2017, 02:02:45 PM
Glory News: Richard Garcia retiring
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on May 19, 2017, 03:32:12 PM
If Kruse really wants games he should stop chasing money abroad and sign for a HAL team. Only hear will he be give patience by coaches. I doubt he'd return to brisbane... I remember him giving the den an uppercut when he scored for victory.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on May 19, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
Glory News: Richard Garcia retiring
I thought he retired 3 years ago....  ;-p
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on May 20, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
Faty and Taveras released from cc https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-release-foreign-duo-462343 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-release-foreign-duo-462343)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: denzele on May 23, 2017, 05:07:32 PM
If Kruse really wants games he should stop chasing money abroad and sign for a HAL team. Only hear will he be give patience by coaches. I doubt he'd return to brisbane... I remember him giving the den an uppercut when he scored for victory.
Yeah I remembered that as well . Really showed his true colors back then . Personally I wouldn't want him here aftet that .
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on May 24, 2017, 08:16:36 AM
Mariners have signed Dutch midfielder Tom Hiariej on a two year deal: http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-land-dutch-midfielder-tom-hiariej/e1gj8auzeopv19vh6oo9o74k1 (http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-land-dutch-midfielder-tom-hiariej/e1gj8auzeopv19vh6oo9o74k1)

28 years old with 10 years experience and over 200 appearances in the Eredivisie. Seems like a decent pick up on paper.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 24, 2017, 11:08:38 AM
Mariners have signed Dutch midfielder Tom Hiariej on a two year deal: [url]http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-land-dutch-midfielder-tom-hiariej/e1gj8auzeopv19vh6oo9o74k1[/url] ([url]http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-land-dutch-midfielder-tom-hiariej/e1gj8auzeopv19vh6oo9o74k1[/url])

28 years old with 10 years experience and over 200 appearances in the Eredivisie. Seems like a decent pick up on paper.

That does sound like a very solid signing.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 24, 2017, 11:09:04 AM
Sydney FC News: Alex Brosque signed for another season.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on May 24, 2017, 03:51:34 PM
Sydney FC News: Alex Brosque signed for another season.

His last, I should imagine.  His pace has gone.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 29, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Mariner News:
Baro has signed with them from Victory.
Appiah has re-signed as well.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 30, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
Glory News: Andy Keogh signs extension so he'll be at the club for another 2 seasons.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on May 31, 2017, 06:10:08 AM
Sydney confirm Blackwood released. I believe he is in the U23 national squad which to me reveals Sydney's total lack of commitment to youth development.
He was the only player they had in the squad.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on May 31, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
Blackwood would be a  good pickup.  He's still very young and working with JA would be good for him.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on May 31, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Hoole has gone to Mariners so he won't be playing on our wing.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 31, 2017, 04:03:17 PM
Sydney confirm Blackwood released. I believe he is in the U23 national squad which to me reveals Sydney's total lack of commitment to youth development.
He was the only player they had in the squad.
They won't care as long as they stay up near the top of the tree.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on May 31, 2017, 04:03:58 PM
Hoole has gone to Mariners so he won't be playing on our wing.
Can't say I rate him. Has flashes of brilliance but is very inconsistent IMO.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on May 31, 2017, 05:32:17 PM
Hoole has gone to Mariners so he won't be playing on our wing.
Can't say I rate him. Has flashes of brilliance but is very inconsistent IMO.

He needs to score more goals. Until he does, he's something of a luxury player.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 05, 2017, 09:20:02 AM
* Kosta Barbarouses has been granted a release from Wellington Phoenix.
* Dimitri Petratos is leaving Hyundai Ulsan FC by mutual consent.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 05, 2017, 11:15:59 AM
Rumour is that Barbarouses will head back to Victory who look unlikely to keep Troisi because of his high wage demands.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 05, 2017, 12:57:08 PM
Rumour is that Barbarouses will head back to Victory who look unlikely to keep Troisi because of his high wage demands.
I saw mention of Troisi going to Brighton maybe.
Barbarouses to Victory would rule out Kruse to Victory possibly.
A lot will depend on how Troisi and Kruse go with the national team.
I already have one wish come true with the signing of FBK and if we could get Robbie Kruse as RW that would be another.
What news on Papa and JC?
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: scribbo on June 05, 2017, 03:30:44 PM
I guess Dimi will go to Newcastle now and join his brother.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 05, 2017, 11:23:26 PM
Not surprised - never thought Dimi was up to a faster l
Rumour is that Barbarouses will head back to Victory who look unlikely to keep Troisi because of his high wage demands.

Last change in Europe for Troisi. Arguably too late.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Septic Bladder on June 06, 2017, 07:12:48 PM

* Dimitri Petratos is leaving Hyundai Ulsan FC by mutual consent.

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise (say this in your best Gomer Pyle accent*)

Finsta, Are you by any chance keeping track of all the overseas transfers - successes & failures?




* You do know who that is/was, right?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 06, 2017, 09:12:32 PM
Bulut also a free agent. Would pass.

Good job on dimi getting a 3 month pay bump and earning the roar and jets 150k transfer.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 06, 2017, 10:41:53 PM
Bulut also a free agent. Would pass.

Good job on dimi getting a 3 month pay bump and earning the roar and jets 150k transfer.



Surplus to requirements in the German third division.  Talk about a career down the toilet.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 07, 2017, 10:58:16 AM

* Dimitri Petratos is leaving Hyundai Ulsan FC by mutual consent.
Finsta, Are you by any chance keeping track of all the overseas transfers - successes & failures?
Hey Sep
I've only really kept track of the immediate club that a Roar player have taken off to. Refer attached (no doubt pretty outdated)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 07, 2017, 04:09:09 PM
So Rado is  named as assistant at the Phoenix.
When Roar played Phoenix at Suncorp on 25th Feb, Rado sat a few rows behind me. I took a selfie with him in the frame. Was a cringeworthy lost 1-2.
Coincidence?
Or was the Phoenix gig on the horizon as far back as then?
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on June 07, 2017, 04:53:31 PM
I noticed Rado at many Roar games, I believe he was keeping himself up to date with the league ready for the next opportunity..
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: kb55 on June 07, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
I saw Rado at the Sydney game back in Feb. he was wearing a blue shirt which I commented to him about.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 07, 2017, 10:49:46 PM
I saw radio once too. Was good.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 09, 2017, 12:54:27 PM
Just seen a report that McGree is Belgium bound.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on June 09, 2017, 02:04:41 PM
Just seen a report that McGree is Belgium bound.
Hope he sinks into obscurity. One of the worst people to have taken the field since Bitch Nipples.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 09, 2017, 02:05:20 PM
Just seen a report that McGree is Belgium bound.

Far too early.  Who advises these kids?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on June 09, 2017, 05:04:48 PM
Just seen a report that McGree is Belgium bound.

Far too early.  Who advises these kids?

yeah...not even one whole season under his belt...seems extremely premature.Mind you Yeboah went after only a few games and I think he is doing Ok but he spent a long time on the fringes.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 09, 2017, 05:44:30 PM
Just seen a report that McGree is Belgium bound.

Far too early.  Who advises these kids?

yeah...not even one whole season under his belt...seems extremely premature.Mind you Yeboah went after only a few games and I think he is doing Ok but he spent a long time on the fringes.

I don't think it's worked too well for Yeboah.  How many years has he been treading water now?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 10, 2017, 08:38:45 AM
And he's playing 4th division...  time will tell If it will work out  but it doesn't sound promising.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on June 13, 2017, 11:42:32 AM
Barbarouses has gone back to Victory: http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/article/barbarouses-back-in-blue/jeqjhhax1s4e19rjjhkw6wco4 (http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/article/barbarouses-back-in-blue/jeqjhhax1s4e19rjjhkw6wco4)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on June 13, 2017, 01:28:42 PM
Dimi confirmed to Jets on a 2 year deal: http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/dimi-deal-petratos-pens-two-season-jets-contract/1oz8e4s4lh4k71w83bkgugbkw7 (http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/dimi-deal-petratos-pens-two-season-jets-contract/1oz8e4s4lh4k71w83bkgugbkw7)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 13, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
Looking at this list I can see why clubs look offshore.
http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/available-a-league-free-agents/1b47zuwv2aqce190896nluhhtj (http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/available-a-league-free-agents/1b47zuwv2aqce190896nluhhtj)
It's a bit of a weird post though to be on the Perth Official Website. Is that how they do things over in the West?
Recruitment by popular demand!
Apart from Broich is there anyone we would want? And the horse has bolted there.
I think we have already discussed Gameiro Cirio and Holosko? Nordstrand will be 35 before the new season.
Of the group Holosko possibly is of some interest but I really am hoping  for two decent recruits in attack that were mooted courtesy of Craig Moore's travels.
Plus news on JC and Papa. Starting to get worried although not hearing about these two being associated with anyone else I suppose is good news.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 13, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
Looking at this list I can see why clubs look offshore.
[url]http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/available-a-league-free-agents/1b47zuwv2aqce190896nluhhtj[/url] ([url]http://www.perthglory.com.au/article/available-a-league-free-agents/1b47zuwv2aqce190896nluhhtj[/url])
It's a bit of a weird post though to be on the Perth Official Website. Is that how they do things over in the West?
Recruitment by popular demand!
Apart from Broich is there anyone we would want? And the horse has bolted there.
I think we have already discussed Gameiro Cirio and Holosko? Nordstrand will be 35 before the new season.
Of the group Holosko possibly is of some interest but I really am hoping  for two decent recruits in attack that were mooted courtesy of Craig Moore's travels.
Plus news on JC and Papa. Starting to get worried although not hearing about these two being associated with anyone else I suppose is good news.




None of them really appeal to me.  Cirio is done - he never came back the same after Jack Clisby decided to do a Popa put him out of the game and most of the season.  Gameiro such a question mark,  Norstrand not good enough.

Maybe Holosko... but he's not coming back.

Have to see what Moorey brings back in his shopping trolley besides the duty free.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: MonteCristo on June 13, 2017, 09:37:24 PM
Dimi confirmed to Jets on a 2 year deal: [url]http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/dimi-deal-petratos-pens-two-season-jets-contract/1oz8e4s4lh4k71w83bkgugbkw7[/url] ([url]http://www.newcastlejets.com.au/article/dimi-deal-petratos-pens-two-season-jets-contract/1oz8e4s4lh4k71w83bkgugbkw7[/url])


"Newcastle is the only current team in the Hyundai A-League that I haven?t scored against. Now that I have come here I kind of feel like it is my home. Now I won?t be able to score against the Jets, only for them."

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease score an own goal.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 14, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
Topor-Stanley going to Jets.
Did I hear the Fox guys say Kruse going to Portugal?
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 14, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Cheer up lads

We've signed a 35 year old so far

All is looking good
 :-\
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on June 14, 2017, 03:03:05 PM
Is that better than a 36 years old !!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 14, 2017, 04:23:40 PM
Paola, they haven't finished shopping yet mate. 36 year old could be on the cards.  Sadly it won't be Thomas though.
More Likely a Spanish has been knowing JA's form.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 14, 2017, 05:13:15 PM
I still would like to know exactly what happened with Thomas.  Given what we're seeing, it just doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm wondering if Thomas had a falling out with the coaches.  I'm struggling to find any other explanation.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 14, 2017, 06:09:08 PM
I still would like to know exactly what happened with Thomas.  Given what we're seeing, it just doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm wondering if Thomas had a falling out with the coaches.  I'm struggling to find any other explanation.
I think Thomas was at the point where he wasn't liking the change in direction the club was going and he was either gonna start speaking publicly and kickstart bad blood OR leave and move on with no hurt feelings between himself and the club.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on June 15, 2017, 07:23:40 AM
Paola, they haven't finished shopping yet mate. 36 year old could be on the cards.  Sadly it won't be Thomas though.
More Likely a Spanish has been knowing JA's form.

That seems a little unfair. Sure, Arana an Hervas were duds, but I think Maclaren, Caletti, Avraam, Corona, Kristensen make up for it. Every coach makes bad signings. It would make things a lot easier if they had some magical telescope to look into the future and see how these signings would perform.

I don't understand why people seem to think it is easy to find an amazing under 30 year old player from a top league who is willing to come to the A-League and play for way less money than is available elsewhere.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on June 15, 2017, 07:43:15 AM
Paola, they haven't finished shopping yet mate. 36 year old could be on the cards.  Sadly it won't be Thomas though.
More Likely a Spanish has been knowing JA's form.

That seems a little unfair. Sure, Arana an Hervas were duds, but I think Maclaren, Caletti, Avraam, Corona, Kristensen make up for it. Every coach makes bad signings. It would make things a lot easier if they had some magical telescope to look into the future and see how these signings would perform.

I don't understand why people seem to think it is easy to find an amazing under 30 year old player from a top league who is willing to come to the A-League and play for way less money than is available elsewhere.
Agree...I think Thomas Broich - a high quality, under 30s player,  seeking to reignite his passion in the game and prepared to travel halfway across the world to do that - spoiled us. Now there is almost an expectation that there are "Thomas Broichs" everywhere.
You have to dig a lot of dud holes, to find a single gold nugget.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 15, 2017, 01:09:06 PM
Paola, they haven't finished shopping yet mate. 36 year old could be on the cards.  Sadly it won't be Thomas though.
More Likely a Spanish has been knowing JA's form.

That seems a little unfair. Sure, Arana an Hervas were duds, but I think Maclaren, Caletti, Avraam, Corona, Kristensen make up for it. Every coach makes bad signings. It would make things a lot easier if they had some magical telescope to look into the future and see how these signings would perform.

I don't understand why people seem to think it is easy to find an amazing under 30 year old player from a top league who is willing to come to the A-League and play for way less money than is available elsewhere.
Agree...I think Thomas Broich - a high quality, under 30s player,  seeking to reignite his passion in the game and prepared to travel halfway across the world to do that - spoiled us. Now there is almost an expectation that there are "Thomas Broichs" everywhere.
You have to dig a lot of dud holes, to find a single gold nugget.

Agree. Signing Thomas then Berisha was akin to winning Lotto - twice!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 16, 2017, 10:23:49 AM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 16, 2017, 02:56:06 PM
Galekovic unveiled by Melbourne City. 2 year deal.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 16, 2017, 03:26:44 PM
Galekovic unveiled by Melbourne City. 2 year deal.

Bouzanis to no 2?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 16, 2017, 03:35:18 PM
Galekovic unveiled by Melbourne City. 2 year deal.

Bouzanis to no 2?
I'd say so. Sorensen has gone home.
Bouzanis is 26 so I'd imagine he'd not be super happy with Galekovic (36) coming in.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on June 16, 2017, 07:01:45 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL
Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 16, 2017, 07:36:16 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL
Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!
Google Translate is struggling with this one for me.
As far as I can see APOEL are looking for an attacker. The new coach knows Tommy from the time together.
As far as I can tell from the article the fact Tommy is contracted to us is an obstacle. I can't find one that says that Roar and APOEL have reached agreement.
But it literally is Greek to me and Google Translate not doing very well. 
I am first to admit total ignorance about Cypriot football, and on that basis, would not see it as enhancing Tommy's career.
 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Septic Bladder on June 16, 2017, 11:34:58 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL
Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!
Google Translate is struggling with this one for me.
As far as I can see APOEL are looking for an attacker. The new coach knows Tommy from the time together.
As far as I can tell from the article the fact Tommy is contracted to us is an obstacle. I can't find one that says that Roar and APOEL have reached agreement.
But it literally is Greek to me and Google Translate not doing very well. 
I am first to admit total ignorance about Cypriot football, and on that basis, would not see it as enhancing Tommy's career.
 

Post the Greek text and I'll have a read.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 17, 2017, 12:03:58 PM
I think it depends on money.... oar is so out of contention for the roos that I think he'll move for money but only if it's enough to give up the cushy security of his current marque deal.

Personally I'd love to see him move on and we try our luck at recruiting another marquee player. Losing oar would be as good as re-signing broich for me.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 17, 2017, 01:25:57 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL

Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!

Google Translate is struggling with this one for me.
As far as I can see APOEL are looking for an attacker. The new coach knows Tommy from the time together.
As far as I can tell from the article the fact Tommy is contracted to us is an obstacle. I can't find one that says that Roar and APOEL have reached agreement.
But it literally is Greek to me and Google Translate not doing very well. 
I am first to admit total ignorance about Cypriot football, and on that basis, would not see it as enhancing Tommy's career.
 


Post the Greek text and I'll have a read.

have a look around these links. There is a comment from someone called Lou saying it is all about sorted and  Tommy on his way for a medical.
http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/ (http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/)
https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736 (https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736)
With FBK already there it would be quite workable IMO to have Thomas Broich and FBK as our left wing options for next season if Tommy goes. Will it ever happen?
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on June 17, 2017, 02:00:32 PM
my impression was that TB left because he wanted to leave at the moment, I really can't see him return for now...

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 18, 2017, 02:44:30 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL

Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!

Google Translate is struggling with this one for me.
As far as I can see APOEL are looking for an attacker. The new coach knows Tommy from the time together.
As far as I can tell from the article the fact Tommy is contracted to us is an obstacle. I can't find one that says that Roar and APOEL have reached agreement.
But it literally is Greek to me and Google Translate not doing very well. 
I am first to admit total ignorance about Cypriot football, and on that basis, would not see it as enhancing Tommy's career.
 


Post the Greek text and I'll have a read.

have a look around these links. There is a comment from someone called Lou saying it is all about sorted and  Tommy on his way for a medical.
[url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/[/url] ([url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/[/url])
[url]https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736[/url] ([url]https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736[/url])
With FBK already there it would be quite workable IMO to have Thomas Broich and FBK as our left wing options for next season if Tommy goes. Will it ever happen?

http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/gyrizi-i-bilia-gia-ton-tomi-oar/ (http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/gyrizi-i-bilia-gia-ton-tomi-oar/)
Update from 9:20 on 17th. Sounds like Tommy is on the wish list, but not there yet.
My take on it is that Tommy will be disappointed that his season at Roar for one reason or another has not resulted in him returning to the Socceroo team.
I would think that he is desperate to play again for the Socceroos and the WC in particular.
I was initially unsure if this is a good move for Tommy, but a move to the Cyprus champions and the prospect of Champions League football is most likely an offer which he can't refuse and with Ange's preference for players playing in overseas leagues, quite attractive.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: spongebob on June 18, 2017, 09:05:29 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL

Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!

Google Translate is struggling with this one for me.
As far as I can see APOEL are looking for an attacker. The new coach knows Tommy from the time together.
As far as I can tell from the article the fact Tommy is contracted to us is an obstacle. I can't find one that says that Roar and APOEL have reached agreement.
But it literally is Greek to me and Google Translate not doing very well. 
I am first to admit total ignorance about Cypriot football, and on that basis, would not see it as enhancing Tommy's career.
 


Post the Greek text and I'll have a read.

have a look around these links. There is a comment from someone called Lou saying it is all about sorted and  Tommy on his way for a medical.
[url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/[/url] ([url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/[/url])
[url]https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736[/url] ([url]https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736[/url])
With FBK already there it would be quite workable IMO to have Thomas Broich and FBK as our left wing options for next season if Tommy goes. Will it ever happen?

http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/gyrizi-i-bilia-gia-ton-tomi-oar/ (http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/gyrizi-i-bilia-gia-ton-tomi-oar/)
Update from 9:20 on 17th. Sounds like Tommy is on the wish list, but not there yet.
My take on it is that Tommy will be disappointed that his season at Roar for one reason or another has not resulted in him returning to the Socceroo team.
I would think that he is desperate to play again for the Socceroos and the WC in particular.
I was initially unsure if this is a good move for Tommy, but a move to the Cyprus champions and the prospect of Champions League football is most likely an offer which he can't refuse and with Ange's preference for players playing in overseas leagues, quite attractive.
[/quote
I'll give one reason why his move to Brisbane hasn't resulted in a socceroos call up - he hasn't been good enough. Its not the club he is playing for that is the problem its how he is playing for the club]
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 18, 2017, 09:38:08 PM
Vince Rugari tweeting Tommy Oar to APOEL

Get Thomas Broich's number and offer him another year as marquee!!!!

Google Translate is struggling with this one for me.
As far as I can see APOEL are looking for an attacker. The new coach knows Tommy from the time together.
As far as I can tell from the article the fact Tommy is contracted to us is an obstacle. I can't find one that says that Roar and APOEL have reached agreement.
But it literally is Greek to me and Google Translate not doing very well. 
I am first to admit total ignorance about Cypriot football, and on that basis, would not see it as enhancing Tommy's career.
 


Post the Greek text and I'll have a read.

have a look around these links. There is a comment from someone called Lou saying it is all about sorted and  Tommy on his way for a medical.
[url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/[/url] ([url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/goal-ke-stin-afstralia/[/url])
[url]https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736[/url] ([url]https://twitter.com/goal_cy/status/874730107432308736[/url])
With FBK already there it would be quite workable IMO to have Thomas Broich and FBK as our left wing options for next season if Tommy goes. Will it ever happen?

[url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/gyrizi-i-bilia-gia-ton-tomi-oar/[/url] ([url]http://goal.philenews.com/podosfero/kypros/a-katigoria/apoel/gyrizi-i-bilia-gia-ton-tomi-oar/[/url])
Update from 9:20 on 17th. Sounds like Tommy is on the wish list, but not there yet.
My take on it is that Tommy will be disappointed that his season at Roar for one reason or another has not resulted in him returning to the Socceroo team.
I would think that he is desperate to play again for the Socceroos and the WC in particular.
I was initially unsure if this is a good move for Tommy, but a move to the Cyprus champions and the prospect of Champions League football is most likely an offer which he can't refuse and with Ange's preference for players playing in overseas leagues, quite attractive.
[/quote
I'll give one reason why his move to Brisbane hasn't resulted in a socceroos call up - he hasn't been good enough. Its not the club he is playing for that is the problem its how he is playing for the club]

Yes. He seemed promising when he first came, but then really looked out of sorts after he was injured. But I think he has aspirations the make the WC all the same.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 18, 2017, 11:18:48 PM
Is the cyprus league good enough in anges eyes to springboard oar into the roos?

I remember JA told maclaren not to play there for that very reason.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 19, 2017, 11:28:12 AM
Is the cyprus league good enough in anges eyes to springboard oar into the roos?

I remember JA told maclaren not to play there for that very reason.
I think there is Champions League football and Tommy may be hoping for a good show there.
Roary has now posted a separate post on the topic
 
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 20, 2017, 07:51:13 PM
Nick Ansell off to Portugal.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 21, 2017, 12:08:13 PM
Danny Vukovic is on the verge of joining Belgian club KRC Genk.
Sydney are losing a cornerstone of their successful team. So Redmayne may step up but I would think Arnie will be looking for replacement. 
The way things are going at Roar I wouldn't be surprised if JA gives Jamie away. Jamie must be getting a bit sick of playing second fiddle.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on June 21, 2017, 04:46:01 PM
Vidosic or Kruse to Brisbane?

Vidosic isn't a marquee player, but he could do a job.  Another player who never quite went on with it.  Very like Oar.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 21, 2017, 06:16:47 PM
Vidosic or Kruse to Brisbane?

Vidosic isn't a marquee player, but he could do a job.  Another player who never quite went on with it.  Very like Oar.
I have said a few times that I am a huge Robbie Kruse fan, but I know there are a few amongst us who disagree. Some people don't like his attitude, but that is something which actually I really like.
But I reckon he is show casing his skills in Russia. Although someone on Fox mentioned Portugal.
He got good wraps in the Germany game and maybe will have done himself a few favours and reminded a few people in germany that he is still about.
If we could get him, I would be really pleased. 
I am not convinced about Dario, and not sure what his contract status is in Korea.
As a Brisbane Southside boy he may be interested in an A League stint nearer home, although with his Dad just joining the Phoenix he might want to join him.
Dario is another one I went to watch when I was overseas and saw him come on and score a goal at Duisburg. But he just didn't seem to fulfill the promise. 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 21, 2017, 10:57:31 PM
Kruse has ruled out a hal return
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on June 23, 2017, 02:28:23 PM
Nichols has gone back to Perth.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on June 23, 2017, 03:26:10 PM
Nichols has gone back to Perth.
Bullet dodged
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on June 25, 2017, 05:22:44 PM
442 saying one of roars backs gone to mariners
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 25, 2017, 05:37:24 PM
Kye Rowles has gone to mariners
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on June 25, 2017, 06:18:15 PM
Is this fact or rumor?
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 25, 2017, 07:28:26 PM
It's fact

Know some parents of the npl boys
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 26, 2017, 10:45:36 AM
Nathan Burns is a free agent I do believe. He'd be a handy Marquee yeah?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on June 26, 2017, 10:56:49 AM
Nathan Burns is a free agent I do believe. He'd be a handy Marquee yeah?

Absolutely. I imagine a number of clubs would be chasing him.

He could replace Kosta at the Nix and Oar for Roar as marquee. I'd say WSW would probably offer him marquee as well.

Sydney FC would likely chase him to replace Holosko and City may go after him for more experience over Kamau.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 26, 2017, 04:00:09 PM
http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/breaking-mariners-recruit-rowles/13gq9dmvutcuk1vv5x2is6vuvd (http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/breaking-mariners-recruit-rowles/13gq9dmvutcuk1vv5x2is6vuvd)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 26, 2017, 04:09:19 PM
A win win I feel. With Papa, North, DeVere and Bowles at the club, Kye was always a long shot at getting game time.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on June 26, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
Tiatto joins coaching staff

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36162546/tiatto-to-join-roar-coaching-staff/
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 26, 2017, 06:21:50 PM
Tiatto joins coaching staff

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/36162546/tiatto-to-join-roar-coaching-staff/
What the F**k?
Looking forwards to the next game down in Adelaide as it appears Ross now has reinforcements for the post game activities.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: medley on June 26, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
Not good at all. The boys club is growing.
There goes the neighborhood.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on June 28, 2017, 06:15:41 AM
Milligan heading for Europe to see if he can get a contract.
He is a player that has really improved and his performance v Sanchez the other day was very good.
If it strengthens the National team and he does not join Victory then I see it as a win win.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on June 28, 2017, 09:48:23 AM
Vukovic has signed with Genk
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on June 28, 2017, 03:16:49 PM
Mills could definitely do a job in the championship.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 03, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
Scott Jamieson has signed with Melbourne City on a 4 year deal.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 03, 2017, 04:39:54 PM
Scott Jamieson has signed with Melbourne City on a 4 year deal.

Will this be City's year?  They need good marquees.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 03, 2017, 04:43:20 PM
I think there'll be most pressure on their new manager. Get off to a shit start and shit will hit the fan very quickly!!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 05, 2017, 02:17:24 PM
Wanderers have signed Oriol Riera: http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c (http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 05, 2017, 02:28:32 PM
Wanderers have signed Oriol Riera: [url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c[/url] ([url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c[/url])

Piovaccari MK 2 perhaps? lol
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 05, 2017, 03:18:48 PM
Wanderers have signed Oriol Riera: [url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c[/url] ([url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c[/url])

Piovaccari MK 2 perhaps? lol

So Scott MacDonald is less likely to go to WSW..................and more likely to go to us ??
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 07, 2017, 10:37:28 AM
Wanderers have signed Oriol Riera: [url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c[/url] ([url]http://www.wswanderersfc.com.au/article/wanderers-sign-marquee-striker-oriol-riera/z6fom4msk1dl19ld4gb0d8b8c[/url])

Piovaccari MK 2 perhaps? lol

So Scott MacDonald is less likely to go to WSW..................and more likely to go to us ??


Trouble is, Scotmac needs to play off a target man. 
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 07, 2017, 11:42:42 AM
Apparently a few HAL clubs have thrown their hat in the ring to snatch Dario Vidosic. We're apparently not one of them.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 07, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
Mark Bridge and WSW in discussion about him going back to them.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 07, 2017, 01:03:58 PM
Apparently a few HAL clubs have thrown their hat in the ring to snatch Dario Vidosic. We're apparently not one of them.

I reckon after Rado was fired, that was never going to happen.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 07, 2017, 01:29:12 PM
Apparently a few HAL clubs have thrown their hat in the ring to snatch Dario Vidosic. We're apparently not one of them.

I reckon after Rado was fired, that was never going to happen.
Yeah good point.. Might be a "on principles" thing.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 09, 2017, 11:41:53 AM
Adelaide are parting ways with Marcelo Carrusca.
Apparently they are looking for a replacement over seas and from his perspective, the offer they made him is not enough.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/adelaide-confirms-carrusca-exit-467886 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/adelaide-confirms-carrusca-exit-467886)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 09, 2017, 11:44:24 AM
Antonis off to Venlo
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/08/antonis-joins-eredivisie-side-vvv-venlo (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/08/antonis-joins-eredivisie-side-vvv-venlo)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 09, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
Adelaide are parting ways with Marcelo Carrusca.
Apparently they are looking for a replacement over seas and from his perspective, the offer they made him is not enough.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/adelaide-confirms-carrusca-exit-467886 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/adelaide-confirms-carrusca-exit-467886)

He's past his best, but it the price was right he'd be a good pickup - not for us, though.  We've already got too many mid 30s players.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 09, 2017, 07:37:49 PM
Chris Herd is trialling with Western Sydney Wanderers.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 10, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
Mark Bridge going back to WSW.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 13, 2017, 01:43:41 PM
Nathan Burns has signed with Sanfrecce apparently
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 13, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
Chris Herd is trialling with Western Sydney Wanderers.
Herd has signed up.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 14, 2017, 11:24:13 AM
Wanderers are quietly putting together a very good starting 11. 

Our 11 is looking mid to lower half of table.  We badly need a couple of good signings if we are going to compete.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 14, 2017, 12:11:54 PM
Wanderers are quietly putting together a very good starting 11. 

Our 11 is looking mid to lower half of table.  We badly need a couple of good signings if we are going to compete.
JA Has been quoted stating that 2 imports are just about over the line. It's been insinuated too that one may be on Marquee status.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 14, 2017, 01:10:54 PM
Wanderers are quietly putting together a very good starting 11. 

Our 11 is looking mid to lower half of table.  We badly need a couple of good signings if we are going to compete.
JA Has been quoted stating that 2 imports are just about over the line. It's been insinuated too that one may be on Marquee status.
I agree about the mid to lower half of the table.
One thing that we have discussed before on this site is that whilst we were all congratulating ourselves on our defensive quality which in my view reflected the quality of the individuals available, we were still below par defensively as a team. That needs to be fixed.
I agree that we really need to address the depleted attacking stocks as you say (keeping in mind also that with Thomas gone we are down on creativity, not to mention losing Macca) but also that if we are to progress we need to concede fewer goals.
We seem to cling to our home form, and I am starting to think that our good home form could be down to the way that the terrible playing surface (Suncorp voted worst surface by the players)  is actually a bit of a leveler.
Our away from was not great. And that basically means that unless we can get a home GF, we cannot win the comp.
Regarding visa players, they absolutely have to be a level above what is available to us here, and ideally able to raise the profile of the club. We will be lucky if we satisfy the first criteria. Achieving the second seems well outside our range.
There were some positive signs last season, but essentially when we got into the ACL, we were gone.
To say nothing of the cavalier way that Thomas was allowed to slip away and all that skill, creativity, leadership, and experience denied the club for one final season.
Which basically means that JA has to sort out the defensive unit, bolster the mids, and find a couple of fire crackers up front. No pressure JA.
The memory of Kurtisi, Hervas, Kaluderovic and Arana in particular linger on.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on July 14, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
Wanderers are quietly putting together a very good starting 11. 

Our 11 is looking mid to lower half of table.  We badly need a couple of good signings if we are going to compete.
JA Has been quoted stating that 2 imports are just about over the line. It's been insinuated too that one may be on Marquee status.
I agree about the mid to lower half of the table.
One thing that we have discussed before on this site is that whilst we were all congratulating ourselves on our defensive quality which in my view reflected the quality of the individuals available, we were still below par defensively as a team. That needs to be fixed.
I agree that we really need to address the depleted attacking stocks as you say (keeping in mind also that with Thomas gone we are down on creativity, not to mention losing Macca) but also that if we are to progress we need to concede fewer goals.
We seem to cling to our home form, and I am starting to think that our good home form could be down to the way that the terrible playing surface (Suncorp voted worst surface by the players)  is actually a bit of a leveler.
Our away from was not great. And that basically means that unless we can get a home GF, we cannot win the comp.
Regarding visa players, they absolutely have to be a level above what is available to us here, and ideally able to raise the profile of the club. We will be lucky if we satisfy the first criteria. Achieving the second seems well outside our range.
There were some positive signs last season, but essentially when we got into the ACL, we were gone.
To say nothing of the cavalier way that Thomas was allowed to slip away and all that skill, creativity, leadership, and experience denied the club for one final season.
Which basically means that JA has to sort out the defensive unit, bolster the mids, and find a couple of fire crackers up front. No pressure JA.
The memory of Kurtisi, Hervas, Kaluderovic and Arana in particular linger on.


i think at the moment our squad is definitely lower half of the table but that is only because we dont have a 20+ goal a season striker and 4+ goal plus many assist right wing. if those two spots are replaced with players that are of similar standard then I think we move up to a top 4 team.

I agree with you that our defensive players are quality (devere, kristensen, hingert would all start in any a-league team and north, papa, brown, calletie are all above average for the league). It is definitely the tactical side that needs development. I personally feel that when we are properly set up we defend very well, it is all in the transition both from defence to attack and attack to defence that we really struggle. this is to do with how we were set up to attack since Ange has left (moving the ball quickly into the attacking 3rd and committing RB and LB into attack quickly) and how we no longer are capable of turning the ball over high up the park or at worse slowing opposition forward movement when we lose the ball (something SFC did very well last season by constantly committing fouls). we get hurt by teams that quickly move into the space left by the advancing RB and LB which then draws out the CB paring and our shape falls apart.

i am still optimistic for this season with the right 2 players we can definitely be a championship team but that would need Aloisi touncover a couple of diamonds. the memory of Kurtisi, Hervas, Kaluderovic and Arana may linger for you but Corona, Kristensen Mclaren, Papa and Calletie stick out for me.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 14, 2017, 03:03:59 PM
Arana didn't do much and was largely disappointing, but he fits more in a list with Issey. Those other three were just horrific and one in particular caused our position on the table to worsen by two places. Arana at least knew where the goal was and knew what an assist looked like.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 14, 2017, 04:23:55 PM
Arana didn't do much and was largely disappointing, but he fits more in a list with Issey. Those other three were just horrific and one in particular caused our position on the table to worsen by two places. Arana at least knew where the goal was and knew what an assist looked like.
Darn. I had erased Issey from memory. And you have gone and reminded me. Another nightmare!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 14, 2017, 04:59:25 PM
Arana didn't do much and was largely disappointing, but he fits more in a list with Issey. Those other three were just horrific and one in particular caused our position on the table to worsen by two places. Arana at least knew where the goal was and knew what an assist looked like.
Darn. I had erased Issey from memory. And you have gone and reminded me. Another nightmare!


Oh boy, was he ever.  But the biggest disappointment for me was Kurtisi.  An absolute shocker.

Then I remember Hervas. I guess the difference was that I didn't have an expectations, whereas Kurtisi was sold as the next Berisha.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 15, 2017, 12:28:47 PM
La Rocca gone to FFA City.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 16, 2017, 12:20:44 PM
Wanderers are quietly putting together a very good starting 11. 

Our 11 is looking mid to lower half of table.  We badly need a couple of good signings if we are going to compete.
JA Has been quoted stating that 2 imports are just about over the line. It's been insinuated too that one may be on Marquee status.
I watched the second half v Arsenal. I don't think Arsenal really got into top gear so it is hard to read a lot into it  but WSW did look good in patches. Maybe not physically, but there were some good signs.
They certainly have a balanced squad with some good acquisitions.
It pretty much looks like WSW have their squad now.
Which gives them plenty of time to prepare. Unlike Roar who still remain toothless tigers.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: medley on July 16, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Wanderers are quietly putting together a very good starting 11. 

Our 11 is looking mid to lower half of table.  We badly need a couple of good signings if we are going to compete.
JA Has been quoted stating that 2 imports are just about over the line. It's been insinuated too that one may be on Marquee status.
I watched the second half v Arsenal. I don't think Arsenal really got into top gear so it is hard to read a lot into it  but WSW did look good in patches. Maybe not physically, but there were some good signs.
They certainly have a balanced squad with some good acquisitions.
It pretty much looks like WSW have their squad now.
Which gives them plenty of time to prepare. Unlike Roar who still remain toothless tigers.


Lets see what Moore and JA bring back from their Caribbean holiday. Did I say holiday? ooops I mean scouting trip!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 17, 2017, 11:01:58 AM
Empoli have just released this about Massimo Maccarone on 15 July ..
"Massimo Maccarone in Australia. The news goes back a few days ago, but now comes the confirmation. The former captain of blue is preparing to sign with the Brisbane Roar team of the A series of overseas. The championship will begin in October, but next week the player should already reach the kangaroo land to sign the contract that will tie him to the Brisbane club.Read this article on: http://www.empolichannel.it/maccarone-verso-laustralia-arriva-la-conferma-giochera-nel-brisbane-roar/Copyright (http://www.empolichannel.it/maccarone-verso-laustralia-arriva-la-conferma-giochera-nel-brisbane-roar/Copyright) ? gonews."

Good player but is 38 years old ......

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 17, 2017, 11:24:51 AM
Can't see where signing a 38 year old is a good idea for the club.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 17, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
Can't see where signing a 38 year old is a good idea for the club.
unless they just want a one season Broich replacement ?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 11:48:20 AM
Can't see where signing a 38 year old is a good idea for the club.
unless they just want a one season Broich replacement ?
In that case wouldn't it make more sense to have kept Broich?
In terms of a front man, and especially with our style of play, we should be looking for a striker that has pace and stamina.
I don't know if this is intended as a Del Piero-esque marketing concept but hardly think Maccarone with his two caps and zero international goals 15 years ago is in the DP league. And whilst DP lifted the profile of the game, he certainly did not change the course of history for Sydney on the field.
I am hoping this is a furphy.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on July 17, 2017, 12:39:12 PM
Looks like a done deal, according to Italy.  He will be a back up out and out striker for D' Agostino..
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 17, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
Looks like a done deal, according to Italy.  He will be a back up out and out striker for D' Agostino..
A 38 year old as a back up striker?? Surely not!
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on July 17, 2017, 02:04:22 PM
Well at least Daggers will get plenty of game time , JA might have to Jace up the boots soon .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 17, 2017, 02:17:23 PM
I'm sure we are all asking ourselves WTF, is this the best we can do.

What i find strange about this signing, is how does this work for JAs present tactics? We've seen over the last 2 years how JA's counter attacking football has relied heavily on the pace of Jamie. We've now signed a player who can score, but wont' have the pace or endurance that Jamie had. So JAs tactics are going to have to change.

Unless we can sign an AM who can hold the ball in the final 3rd and create opps for FBK, I expect to see the roar creating very little, turning over the ball too frequently and consequently being forced to park the bus to stay in games a lot more this season. IMO with this present squad, our only hope for goals this year is that FBK has a very big season.


Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 17, 2017, 02:22:35 PM
I've been a roar die hard for ~7 years now... but i'm starting to really tire of the direction JA is taking the club. I wish we could build a team that rivals the likes of present victory / sydney fc. They're a joy to watch
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 17, 2017, 02:44:29 PM
I've been a roar die hard for ~7 years now... but i'm starting to really tire of the direction JA is taking the club. I wish we could build a team that rivals the likes of present victory / sydney fc. They're a joy to watch
It's been a rollercoaster from day 1! lol

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on July 17, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
I've been a roar die hard for ~7 years now... but i'm starting to really tire of the direction JA is taking the club. I wish we could build a team that rivals the likes of present victory / sydney fc. They're a joy to watch

I cant agree with that last part. SFC (and to a lesser extent MV) played a style of football last season that was at times out and out anti-football. it relied heavily on referees not punishing players for fouling to break up play. defensively that is how SFC operated last season try to win the ball and if you don't foul them until your team gets back into position. it was very effective but really hard for me to watch most of the time.

This will really be JA's first season playing exactly how he whats to play, everyone in this squad is there because Aloisi wants them there which has not been the case up until now. Given that JA taken us to 2 3rd place finishes after a pretty horrible season with absolute mayhem off the pitch from the owners, im going to give him some lee way to actually show us how he wants the team to play before writing him off. I think if we dont make finals he should be shown the door. A 6-4th place finish and he is put on notice 3-1st and he gets a lot more leeway.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 03:11:59 PM
What is really telling is that no-one ever talks about Holman. He is supposed to be a marquee. So it is very telling that no-one see him as a key player nor is he seen as exciting to watch.
In theory the return of an ex Socceroo like him with solid overseas experience and acquisition of an ex Series A striker should be something to be pleased about. But I don't feel that way.
I was assuming that D'Agostino was better in the number 10 role than the number 9, but obviously JA sees it differently. But surely neither he nor Maccaronne are viewed as a like for like replacement for Macca?
There is no question that JA has to change the structure.
I was pleased about Ben Khalfallah coming in and still am but at 34/35 was not expecting him to be our most potent creative /  attacking weapon in my wildest dreams.
And when he is injured, who backs him up on the left?
Basically I am looking forwards to JC developing and getting more game time, Ingham strengthening defensively and giving Jack a run for his money, D'Aggers really breaking through, TK being fit and playing well, Browny consolidating, Papa doing his thing, (paired with North) and a solid contribution from JBK.   
I really have no great expectation of (certainly no excitement about) Maccaronne, Holman, Mackay, De Vere, Brady, Pepper, and Bowles
O'Toole showed some promise in Thailand and may be one to watch. Gameiro  could turn out to be a good signing and I really hope he puts injury behind him.
I agree with the comment that this really is JA's side now. And to be fair, the players I am most excited about (above) are largely JA's players.
But I am still hoping for a couple of signings to get excited about. 
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on July 17, 2017, 03:18:17 PM
Although to be fair, over time there have been many complaints about not having a "presence" up front, with very light weight people.....

 Definitely there will be a different approach with a lot of emphasis on building up the wide players and a fair dinkium target man... I believe there wont be many long balls and runaway ala Macca and Borrello, but build wide, beat your man deep and cross to targets in centre...

Just toying with what we have on paper..
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 04:04:46 PM
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/veteran-star-signs-as-brisbane-roar-marquee-468539 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/veteran-star-signs-as-brisbane-roar-marquee-468539)
Just looking at the age of the players listed. Gulp.

Maccarone is set to line up alongside fellow new signing Fahid Ben Khalfallah who will be 35 when the season starts, playing in front of Brett Holman (33), Matt McKay (34) and Thomas Kristensen (34).
The backline will be bolstered by Avraam Papadopolous (32) and Jade North (35) with Michael Theo (36) between the sticks, for a potential total of at least nine players over 32 in the line-up.

I prefer to focus on JC, Ingham, Brown, Daggers, Gameiro, and O'Toole myself but would like to see a couple of good young attackers none the less.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 17, 2017, 04:18:35 PM
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/veteran-star-signs-as-brisbane-roar-marquee-468539 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/veteran-star-signs-as-brisbane-roar-marquee-468539)
Just looking at the age of the players listed. Gulp.

Maccarone is set to line up alongside fellow new signing Fahid Ben Khalfallah who will be 35 when the season starts, playing in front of Brett Holman (33), Matt McKay (34) and Thomas Kristensen (34).
The backline will be bolstered by Avraam Papadopolous (32) and Jade North (35) with Michael Theo (36) between the sticks, for a potential total of at least nine players over 32 in the line-up.

I prefer to focus on JC, Ingham, Brown, Daggers, Gameiro, and O'Toole myself but would like to see a couple of good young attackers none the less.
On the topic of age, here is the youth squad from the weekend. Anybody know anything about these guys?
Aaron Reardon
Adam Sawyer
Callum Harris
Cristian Aloisi
Edrick Yalankunze
Emilio Martinez
Jyi Oakes
Kye Bolton
Lewis Gibson
Lloyd Cabilan
Macklin Freke
Nathan Yoon
Omar Sidiqi
Rahmat Akbari
Ryan O'Connor
Tomislav Bilic
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Fixer on July 17, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
Reardon , Akbari and Yoon are ones to watch , I believe all 3 are training with first team squad .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 17, 2017, 05:10:19 PM
Brisbane Roar Retirement Homes Pty Ltd.

FFS.  We let Broich go, then sign one 34 year old and a 37 year old.

Aloisi is a complete goose.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 17, 2017, 05:18:05 PM
I'm picking us to finish 8th.  And I hate to say this, but I would rather finish 8 and see the Brothers Aloisi, and drinking mates Moore and Tiatto gone, than finish 4th, for example, and see these turkeys given another year.

The age of this team is beyond ridiculous.  I have to travel a long way to get to Suncorp, and I can tell you right now that my trips will be few and far between. 

If it wasn't tragic, I'd call it a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 17, 2017, 05:23:08 PM
And finally, I think this confirms that Broich being shown the door was due to some kind of difference on football or personality.  Cos it wasn't to do with his age, and it's pretty damned obvious that it wasn't to do with money.

I'm starting to think that the Aloisi's have been planted to f**k up our club.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 17, 2017, 07:05:32 PM
And finally, I think this confirms that Broich being shown the door was due to some kind of difference on football or personality.  Cos it wasn't to do with his age, and it's pretty damned obvious that it wasn't to do with money.

I'm starting to think that the Aloisi's have been planted to f**k up our club.

Coastie I normally agree with a lot you say but I can't in this instance .
I agree that on paper the team is old but if you match the old with young players correctly it can work in our League.
If it was the EPL I would say the age was a drawback but if we play a possession game in our league the older players can play and be dangerous as they don't have to do so much frenetic running as they would in the EPL.
I am not saying you will be proved wrong but I think we need to wait and see how we go before we start criticizing .
As for Holman ?..he came in behind the eight ball last season and then got a long term injury.
With a preseason behind him he may have a much stronger showing this year.
No one has even seen us play yet.
I am happy to trust JA for now and see what he comes up with.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: cottonjaws on July 17, 2017, 07:48:37 PM
This looks like it could be a tough year coming up.
The one thing we had to counter the dull antifootball hard press from Sydney and Victory was the ability to break at pace. Now we have no pace and old legs. If JA has got it right I can't wait to see the style of football we play to knock off those sides - however I just can't see how we do it. Broich loss is huge and will probably be seen as a turning point for the JA leadership team.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Murk on July 17, 2017, 09:40:45 PM
Brisbane Roar Retirement Homes Pty Ltd.

FFS.  We let Broich go, then sign one 34 year old and a 37 year old.

Aloisi is a complete goose.
Maccarone will apparently be 38 when the season starts,
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 17, 2017, 10:26:46 PM
When the next fan forum? Or how can we contact the club to complain?

The feedback on Facebook about this signing is overwhelmingly negative.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 17, 2017, 10:43:08 PM
And finally, I think this confirms that Broich being shown the door was due to some kind of difference on football or personality.  Cos it wasn't to do with his age, and it's pretty damned obvious that it wasn't to do with money.

I'm starting to think that the Aloisi's have been planted to f**k up our club.

Coastie I normally agree with a lot you say but I can't in this instance .
I agree that on paper the team is old but if you match the old with young players correctly it can work in our League.
If it was the EPL I would say the age was a drawback but if we play a possession game in our league the older players can play and be dangerous as they don't have to do so much frenetic running as they would in the EPL.
I am not saying you will be proved wrong but I think we need to wait and see how we go before we start criticizing .
As for Holman ?..he came in behind the eight ball last season and then got a long term injury.
With a preseason behind him he may have a much stronger showing this year.
No one has even seen us play yet.
I am happy to trust JA for now and see what he comes up with.

Hope you are right MM.  Good on you for the positive take.

But it isn't a good look is it?  Two marquees - Holman at 33 who is well past his never very good best, and a 38 year old Italian.  I don't see much to trust in that.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 17, 2017, 10:44:37 PM
A poor first half of the season and Aloisi will be gone.

Good grief, they say coaches build teams in their image. Clearly Aloisi takes that literally. He's building a team the same age as him.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 17, 2017, 11:50:02 PM
A poor first half of the season and Aloisi will be gone.

Good grief, they say coaches build teams in their image. Clearly Aloisi takes that literally. He's building a team the same age as him.
I don't agree with you .....but that is funny ...
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 18, 2017, 07:21:12 AM
I think this could be a decent signing, if we can utilise his strengths.

Here we have signed an old player who has a lot of experience at the top level, holds up the ball well, has good passing vision and good goal scoring ability. People choose to ignore the positives and focus on age and not remember that we are only able to get those positive things cheaply enough because of his age.

If we signed a younger player with less experience, people would be complaining that he is an unknown and that we should be signing proven players.

There is no way for JA to win, given the wage constraints we have. With very limited money, sacrifices need to be made somewhere.

Edit: Also, forgot to add, imagine what playing with this guy for a year will do for Daggers?
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 18, 2017, 08:51:23 AM
I think this could be a decent signing, if we can utilise his strengths.

Here we have signed an old player who has a lot of experience at the top level, holds up the ball well, has good passing vision and good goal scoring ability. People choose to ignore the positives and focus on age and not remember that we are only able to get those positive things cheaply enough because of his age.

If we signed a younger player with less experience, people would be complaining that he is an unknown and that we should be signing proven players.

There is no way for JA to win, given the wage constraints we have. With very limited money, sacrifices need to be made somewhere.

Edit: Also, forgot to add, imagine what playing with this guy for a year will do for Daggers?
I am still underwhelmed.
I am thinking back to Emile Heskey (62 England Caps 7 international goals) who came into Jets aged 34 on the back of playing in the EPL and recently at Aston Villa who were EPL at the time. So the point from Craig Moore regarding what team has a player who played in a major league last season does not mean much if we look at Heskey as a precedent. 
The whole deal smacks of last minute decision making. Panic possibly.
According to the club, the plan was to look in South America (Brazil was mentioned) ; I recall we were discussing on this site the likelihood of uncovering another Octopus/Fornarolli.
Obviously this plan did not come off. I questioned it at the time given the season the was under way over there.
More recently we were told about Curacao.
It seems to me (maybe Brescianno got into Craig's ear) that when the opportunity came up, JA thought "Why Not?" "We haven't got anyone else ................... and time is running out". Or perhaps he did not really think it through. Or just maybe it's a crazy idea that might just work.
Possibly Heskey had an influence on the young Taggart at Jets and Roar are hoping for something similar with D'Aggers. Which would be great. A real positive if the club pull it off. (Taggart was the 2014 Golden Boot with 16 goals).  Taggart also had Mark Bridges alongside him too. 
Heskey's goal scoring did not match the hype. And Roar need goals from August 9 in the FFA Cup and certainly from October.
Heskey was not a 20 goal a season striker in the A League and I really don't expect Macca Mark II to be either.
The real risk is that we build the play around Macca Mark II who could well under perform and struggle to  adapt. 
I don't think we are looking at another Kurtisi. I can say that much. But doubt whether we have a 20 goal a season player? I really don't see it. 
And one other thing. The club still does not understand the emotion there is around Thomas leaving. It is still raw. With unanswered questions.  Hiring a 38 year old just aggravates the wounds. Not to mention that the left side marquee who came in on Thomas's wages is gone already.
JA needs to speak to fans about this and clear it up.   
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Herbielives on July 18, 2017, 10:01:37 AM
We have a 19 year old striker in Daggers who scored 2 goals last year (Same as marquee Tommy Oar) after playing minimal minutes. This kid is gonna be a gun. I have followed him in NPL and NYL and I reckon if he gets decent game time this year he will return 10 goals. Everyone talks about how Caletti is the future, and yes I agree he is a talented prospect however if we don't sign Daggers to keep him here long term we are gonna miss something special so throw plenty of dollars his way before he gets better offers.

He is strong and quick. He can hold a ball up and he is good in the air. He knows where the goal is and he has a powerful shot on both feet from what I've seen in NPL
So if JA has signed Maccarone to assist the development of this kid, I'm all for it.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on July 18, 2017, 10:13:55 AM

I am still underwhelmed.
I am thinking back to Emile Heskey (62 England Caps 7 international goals) who came into Jets aged 34 on the back of playing in the EPL and recently at Aston Villa who were EPL at the time. So the point from Craig Moore regarding what team has a player who played in a major league last season does not mean much if we look at Heskey as a precedent. 
The whole deal smacks of last minute decision making. Panic possibly.
According to the club, the plan was to look in South America (Brazil was mentioned) ; I recall we were discussing on this site the likelihood of uncovering another Octopus/Fornarolli.
Obviously this plan did not come off. I questioned it at the time given the season the was under way over there.
More recently we were told about Curacao.
It seems to me (maybe Brescianno got into Craig's ear) that when the opportunity came up, JA thought "Why Not?" "We haven't got anyone else ................... and time is running out". Or perhaps he did not really think it through. Or just maybe it's a crazy idea that might just work.
Possibly Heskey had an influence on the young Taggart at Jets and Roar are hoping for something similar with D'Aggers. Which would be great. A real positive if the club pull it off. (Taggart was the 2014 Golden Boot with 16 goals).  Taggart also had Mark Bridges alongside him too. 
Heskey's goal scoring did not match the hype. And Roar need goals from August 9 in the FFA Cup and certainly from October.
Heskey was not a 20 goal a season striker in the A League and I really don't expect Macca Mark II to be either.
The real risk is that we build the play around Macca Mark II who could well under perform and struggle to  adapt. 
I don't think we are looking at another Kurtisi. I can say that much. But doubt whether we have a 20 goal a season player? I really don't see it. 
And one other thing. The club still does not understand the emotion there is around Thomas leaving. It is still raw. With unanswered questions.  Hiring a 38 year old just aggravates the wounds. Not to mention that the left side marquee who came in on Thomas's wages is gone already.
JA needs to speak to fans about this and clear it up.   

the South America trip was cancelled, there was a reason given that i cant remember now but seemed reasonable at the time. I also don't think any of these signings are rush/desperate/last minute signings but i think supporters may feel that way because unlike a lot of clubs we are very tight lipped over who we are looking at and who we are approaching (this actually gives me some confidence that we are being very deliberate and considering our signings carefully). think back, it was all over the web with heaps of reports that FBK was going to the Jets before we signed him "out of the blue", we kept it very quiet until we were sure that he suited JA and were sure he was coming here. Everyone knew about Golecovic and Jamison to city, Williams to Vic, Georgevski to jets, Neville to Perth, everyone of the wanderers signings was known about for weeks before they were actually signed. Even Maccarone was touted to be on his way to Perth last week, but has come here.

Our signings (corey, FBK, Maccarone) and resignings (theo, JC, Kristensen ect) have "come out of the blue" but that is only because the club keeps it that way (and the reporters Marco and Vince are kept at arms length here) that makes them look rushed to some but signings dont just happen.

without Broich, Macca and borrello we need to make up 26 goals minimum and really to be pushing for top spots that needs to be around 30-35 and the mids need to contribute a few more. FBK averages 4 goals a season, i think daggers has 5 (maybe pushing up to 10 if he plays more), if corey can stay fit i reckon he has 3+ goals in him from minimal minutes. that means Maccarone + who ever we sign as right wing need 21-26 goals between them to be pushing for top spot (or 16-21 goals if Daggers progresses) which is very doable .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 18, 2017, 11:14:12 AM
We have a squad half full of footballing pensioners.

There's no getting round it, and letting Thomas go then signing a 35 year old and a 38 year old is flat out ridiculous. 

Look at the number of players we have in their mid 30s.  How is this a good idea on any level?  My only hope for this season, and it is a reasonable one, is that Daggers really steps up and Gamiero stays injury free, and the two of them form a young and quick striking partnership up front.  But a 38 year old marquee?  It's bullshit.  This guy is not Del Piero, and even he only worked for one season.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 18, 2017, 11:45:18 AM

I am still underwhelmed.
I am thinking back to Emile Heskey (62 England Caps 7 international goals) who came into Jets aged 34 on the back of playing in the EPL and recently at Aston Villa who were EPL at the time. So the point from Craig Moore regarding what team has a player who played in a major league last season does not mean much if we look at Heskey as a precedent. 
The whole deal smacks of last minute decision making. Panic possibly.
According to the club, the plan was to look in South America (Brazil was mentioned) ; I recall we were discussing on this site the likelihood of uncovering another Octopus/Fornarolli.
Obviously this plan did not come off. I questioned it at the time given the season the was under way over there.
More recently we were told about Curacao.
It seems to me (maybe Brescianno got into Craig's ear) that when the opportunity came up, JA thought "Why Not?" "We haven't got anyone else ................... and time is running out". Or perhaps he did not really think it through. Or just maybe it's a crazy idea that might just work.
Possibly Heskey had an influence on the young Taggart at Jets and Roar are hoping for something similar with D'Aggers. Which would be great. A real positive if the club pull it off. (Taggart was the 2014 Golden Boot with 16 goals).  Taggart also had Mark Bridges alongside him too. 
Heskey's goal scoring did not match the hype. And Roar need goals from August 9 in the FFA Cup and certainly from October.
Heskey was not a 20 goal a season striker in the A League and I really don't expect Macca Mark II to be either.
The real risk is that we build the play around Macca Mark II who could well under perform and struggle to  adapt. 
I don't think we are looking at another Kurtisi. I can say that much. But doubt whether we have a 20 goal a season player? I really don't see it. 
And one other thing. The club still does not understand the emotion there is around Thomas leaving. It is still raw. With unanswered questions.  Hiring a 38 year old just aggravates the wounds. Not to mention that the left side marquee who came in on Thomas's wages is gone already.
JA needs to speak to fans about this and clear it up.   

the South America trip was cancelled, there was a reason given that i cant remember now but seemed reasonable at the time. I also don't think any of these signings are rush/desperate/last minute signings but i think supporters may feel that way because unlike a lot of clubs we are very tight lipped over who we are looking at and who we are approaching (this actually gives me some confidence that we are being very deliberate and considering our signings carefully). think back, it was all over the web with heaps of reports that FBK was going to the Jets before we signed him "out of the blue", we kept it very quiet until we were sure that he suited JA and were sure he was coming here. Everyone knew about Golecovic and Jamison to city, Williams to Vic, Georgevski to jets, Neville to Perth, everyone of the wanderers signings was known about for weeks before they were actually signed. Even Maccarone was touted to be on his way to Perth last week, but has come here.

Our signings (corey, FBK, Maccarone) and resignings (theo, JC, Kristensen ect) have "come out of the blue" but that is only because the club keeps it that way (and the reporters Marco and Vince are kept at arms length here) that makes them look rushed to some but signings dont just happen.

without Broich, Macca and borrello we need to make up 26 goals minimum and really to be pushing for top spots that needs to be around 30-35 and the mids need to contribute a few more. FBK averages 4 goals a season, i think daggers has 5 (maybe pushing up to 10 if he plays more), if corey can stay fit i reckon he has 3+ goals in him from minimal minutes. that means Maccarone + who ever we sign as right wing need 21-26 goals between them to be pushing for top spot (or 16-21 goals if Daggers progresses) which is very doable .

I think you have hit the nail on the head when you say...................we need to make up 26 goals minimum and really to be pushing for top spots that needs to be around 30-35 and the mids need to contribute a few more..........................................................that means Maccarone + who ever we sign as right wing need 21-26 goals between them to be pushing for top spot (or 16-21 goals if Daggers progresses) which is very doable ..............................................
There are a lot of ifs around signing a 37/38 year old ex Series A player.
If  he arrives in good shape
If  he stays fit and injury free
If  he can adapt to playing in Australia on the fields and the temperatures and the style of play
If  he has the energy levels to perform for 90 minutes and track back as necessary
If he can play midweek games should we have an ACL campaign, travel for half a day, and front up fresh at the weekend
Will he get the  quality of supply that he is used to?
There is a lot of risk and Roar is paying marquee wages. 
Hard to believe that Berisha is seven years younger and that is the yardstick against whom Macca MK II is measured.
You have all heard more than enough from me on this topic by now, so  I will shut up. It can't be undone, and I hope it turns out to be genius on the part of the JA.
Hopefully the winger will be something to get excited about. Unless it is an Asian player, then if we are in the ACL, we already have FBK, TK, Papa and Macca so one of them would not be included. Let's face it. None of them would relish the travel. Sadly, you would have to think Papa would be the one left out given our abundance of backs, but that would be sad.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 18, 2017, 12:26:37 PM
I think Heskey was effective as a marquee, in that he added interest to the game and brought something different. I remember he assisted quite a bit and acted as a magnet for opposition defences. He didn't win them any silver, but there haven't been any big name signings that have.
My preference is for a marquee that is going to bring you silver, but the FFA sees it differently. They'll stump up for Cahill, Kewell, and Del Piero, but won't help when it comes to Berisha and Broich.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: dobo on July 18, 2017, 01:12:17 PM
papa was born here, has australian citizenship and is counted as an australian for the ACL so he will definitely be in the acl sqaud. however 3+1  means that unless the new winger is asian then one of Macca, FBK, TK or new winger will miss out.

no doubt there are a lot of If's surrounding Macca MKII's success here but, he hasn't even landed here yet and people are writing him off. He comes with a fairly big pay check (500,000 reportedly) the club think he is worth that much, so i am going to at least going to wait until i see him play regularly before casting judgement. He has 3 weeks to get up to speed before the FFA cup (probably not quite enough particularly as our squad is not finalised yet), and then a further 8 weeks before round 1, plenty of time to get fit (if he is not) and gel with the team.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 18, 2017, 01:29:07 PM
That's where I am too, dobo. If he has no impact by round 5, then we can start making judgements. If we haven't won a game by round 8, then I'll be holding up my own Aloisi out sign.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 18, 2017, 03:35:23 PM
This guy will be 38 this season.  38.

There is no getting round that figure.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on July 18, 2017, 04:10:40 PM
Still he was playing serie A last year, dont forget he is not a long term investment... lets see if we can give him decent chances, (which I think is the main point to remember....) , and if he can finish... our wingers will be the key to it all , I believe..
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on July 18, 2017, 04:46:41 PM
Still don't get it.

Can't see how a 38 year old, that hasn't played in Australian heat will cope, regardless of ability. he is 38!!!

Even if he was playing Serie A last year, he only managed 5 goals.... we need at least a 20+ a season striker

He isn't even a big name, so i don't see why we are playing $500K...

I personally don't see this working for us.... i hope I'm proven wrong or our season is done before its even started..

We are starting to look like a retirement XI, not a developing football team.

JA doesn't appear to use youth unless the first team are injured..


Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Paolo on July 18, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
The cleanout will happen at the end of this year with 4/5 ths of the squad out of contract.... and probably retiring ....
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on July 18, 2017, 05:44:24 PM
The cleanout will happen at the end of this year with 4/5 ths of the squad out of contract.... and probably retiring ....

Thats the only optimistic situation we have, looking forwards to next season 2018/19  :)

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on July 18, 2017, 06:00:30 PM
I just hope he doesn't spend half the season getting fit, before he even sees Lang Park...there have been a number of one year signings recently that haven't been available til well into the show.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Yowie Dude on July 18, 2017, 06:51:57 PM
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Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 18, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
The cleanout will happen at the end of this year with 4/5 ths of the squad out of contract.... and probably retiring ....

Thats the only optimistic situation we have, looking forwards to next season 2018/19  :)



Nah ..38 is the new 35.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 19, 2017, 06:18:24 AM
Ivan Franjic off to Daegu FC in Korea for 2 years according to Fox Sports News.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on July 19, 2017, 08:00:24 AM
if 38 is the new 35... Then JA must also be thinking, I've always wanted to be a player manager, and we need a striker just like me...

Hang on..  why not, lets bring back Ross, Moore and Tiatto

We need a bit more experience to the team, to this youthful masters team
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 19, 2017, 10:55:19 AM
I just hope he doesn't spend half the season getting fit, before he even sees Lang Park...there have been a number of one year signings recently that haven't been available til well into the show.

he last played Serie A on 28 May 2017....less than 7 weeks ago ...I reckon he will be fit..BTW he last scored in Serie A 9 weeks ago on 14 May.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 19, 2017, 11:03:10 AM
Still don't get it.

Can't see how a 38 year old, that hasn't played in Australian heat will cope, regardless of ability. he is 38!!!

Even if he was playing Serie A last year, he only managed 5 goals.... we need at least a 20+ a season striker

He isn't even a big name, so i don't see why we are playing $500K...

I personally don't see this working for us.... i hope I'm proven wrong or our season is done before its even started..

We are starting to look like a retirement XI, not a developing football team.

JA doesn't appear to use youth unless the first team are injured..




"only managed 5 goals" ????? ......in the Serie A in a poor performing team ?...have you guys any idea of the vast gulf between Serie A and the A-League  ? .....as for not being a big name ...ask any Italian who he is ...we are not going to be getting any Pirlos or ADPs etc in future now that China is investing in players .
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on July 19, 2017, 11:27:39 AM
Perfect Scenario: Maccarone scores a hat trick against the Victory in the FFA Cup!!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 19, 2017, 01:24:10 PM
Perfect Scenario: Maccarone scores a hat trick against the Victory in the FFA Cup!!
It is good to get one over them at any time, but what I would really like to see is us beating them down in Melbourne.
Based on the numbers listed by Foxsports, Victory squad is very small. 14 so far. I would expect there to be a few more coming in.
Especially given they are qualified for the ACL.
They have three Kiwis but only the one foreign player so far.
FFA Cup could be our best chance if they bring in some real talent.

 
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 19, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
I promised I wouldn't make more comments on the Big Mac decision and am not.
Just sharing this article as it has a few comments from JA that I did not see in earlier reports. Ignore it if you have seen it.
http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-boss-john-aloisi-age-is-just-a-number-152/ (http://outside90.com/brisbane-roar-boss-john-aloisi-age-is-just-a-number-152/)

Brisbane Roar manager John Aloisi insists he is not concerned by the growing number of older players in their squad, headed by 37-year-old marquee Massimo Maccarone.

Brisbane announced the Italian?s signing on a one-season deal on Monday, essentially a replacement for departed hit man Jamie Maclaren.

Other than Maccarone, Matt McKay (34), Michael Theo (36), Avraam Papadopoulos (32), Thomas Kristensen (34), Jade North (35), Brett Holman (33), Fahid Ben Khalfallah (34) and Jamie Young (31) are all over the age of 30.

The above names account for nearly half of Brisbane?s current senior squad.

Asked whether he was concerned by the growing number of elder statesmen, Aloisi replied: ?No ? People are always going to have an opinion, which is the beauty of our game.

?People had an opinion when we signed Jamie Maclaren, saying he won?t get to double-figures and he scored 40 goals in two seasons.

?As a coach, you have to expect it and understand that. But I have a belief in what we?re doing and we believe we?re heading in the right direction.

?The players that we?ve signed have added to our squad and the players we?ve already got here are very strong.

?I look at the way a player moves, whether he?s 18 or he?s in his 30s. It?s important that he moves well and that he?s not struggling with injury.

?It?s never about their age, it?s about their ability and what they can do on the pitch.?

Aloisi revealed former Socceroo Vince Grella, who is Maccarone?s agent, was instrumental in getting the former Empoli centre-forward to Brisbane.

?His agent, Vince Grella, who I know really well, contacted me while I was on holiday and asked me if I would be interested,? he said.

?Because I?m a football tragic and I watch leagues around the world all the time, every weekend, I know a lot of players going around overseas ? so I knew Maccarone really well.

?He?s someone that?s got a great goalscoring record but he?s also a hard worker, which we like.?

The Roar are due to open their FFA Cup account in August against Melbourne Victory at Perry Park.

Aloisi said Maccarone would only play the match if he could prove his fitness.

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on July 19, 2017, 09:28:30 PM
Still don't get it.

Can't see how a 38 year old, that hasn't played in Australian heat will cope, regardless of ability. he is 38!!!

Even if he was playing Serie A last year, he only managed 5 goals.... we need at least a 20+ a season striker

He isn't even a big name, so i don't see why we are playing $500K...

I personally don't see this working for us.... i hope I'm proven wrong or our season is done before its even started..

We are starting to look like a retirement XI, not a developing football team.

JA doesn't appear to use youth unless the first team are injured..




"only managed 5 goals" ????? ......in the Serie A in a poor performing team ?...have you guys any idea of the vast gulf between Serie A and the A-League  ? .....as for not being a big name ...ask any Italian who he is ...we are not going to be getting any Pirlos or ADPs etc in future now that China is investing in players .

I have no objections about the vast difference between A League and Serie A.

We have to remember, that Serie A is a technical league, and i and i believe others find it a slow league, (compared to the hustle faster EPL) The A league is different, it relies more on physical strength and speed over technical ability.

If i recall, he flopped at Middlesborough, no many Italians do well in the EPL due to the Physical side of the game there, there are a few exceptions, but he wasn't one of them.

My concern is the way we have played over the last two years, might not work for him, Maclaren had pace and youthful stamina.

I hope he proves me wrong, i really do, or our season will be poor,

i just think we could have done better for the Reported $500k a season and for a 38 year old.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 20, 2017, 12:30:05 PM
I think you've nailed it well said.

If the roar wasn't already one of the slowest teams we are even more so now.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 20, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
only time will tell....lets see what happens.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 20, 2017, 02:23:28 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the band you've all been waiting for...

Johnny Aloisi and the Rest Home Roar!
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on July 20, 2017, 03:11:11 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the band you've all been waiting for...

Johnny Aloisi and the Rest Home Roar!

We are going to struggle with those afternoon games, thats nap time, can't pay well without nap time ;D
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 22, 2017, 07:22:44 AM
Kruse off to Bochum in German Div 2.
Sounds like Scott Macdonald was in frame for A League (most likely WSW) but not happening.
Talk of Troisi going to FFA City.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 25, 2017, 08:45:43 AM
According to twitter, Henrique is having a holiday after finishing at Chingrai United....
....Thanks @chiangrai_united for the opportunity and good luck for the rest of the season! Now take some time off before my next adventure!...
Timing of this might mean he comes back to the A league
Good luck to him. I would love to see him back at Roar, but can't see it happening.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 26, 2017, 02:02:09 PM
Scott MacDonald has gone to Dundee United.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 26, 2017, 04:07:52 PM
Rojas heading to Europe: http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/article/marco-rojas-returning-to-europe/lkbstaioqezd1iufjvd0wkwhn (http://www.melbournevictory.com.au/article/marco-rojas-returning-to-europe/lkbstaioqezd1iufjvd0wkwhn)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 26, 2017, 11:38:21 PM
Mauk back to city.

Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 27, 2017, 07:24:33 AM
Apparently Troisi re-signing with Victory: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/victory/james-troisi-set-to-resign-with-melbourne-victory-after-almost-moving-to-archrivals/news-story/b2c0e505654da652f7fb037a13ae8e61 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/victory/james-troisi-set-to-resign-with-melbourne-victory-after-almost-moving-to-archrivals/news-story/b2c0e505654da652f7fb037a13ae8e61)

Quote
The Herald Sun understands Troisi completed a medical with City on Monday and was set to sign a contract to become the club?s second marquee player on Wednesday, but never fronted to its Bundoora headquarters. Instead he met with Victory officials, where a two-year contract was formalised, with the club?s interest heightened after losing Marco Rojas.


This guy is an absolute clown.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 27, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
Sounds like he played the market and got the contract he wanted
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 27, 2017, 10:10:34 AM
Sounds like he played the market and got the contract he wanted

He was wanting $1 million a year, and Victory wouldn't be paying that.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 27, 2017, 12:04:20 PM
According to reports, Victory offered $30,000 more than City.  Can't recall the exact figure but it was under $600k on a one year deal inside the cap.

Frankly, I think City can find a much better player for their money.  Troisi doesn't score nearly enough goals for a 10.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 27, 2017, 12:15:25 PM
According to reports, Victory offered $30,000 more than City.  Can't recall the exact figure but it was under $600k on a one year deal inside the cap.

Frankly, I think City can find a much better player for their money.  Troisi doesn't score nearly enough goals for a 10.

He is also extremely selfish and 9 times out of 10 will choose to rocket a shot into row Z rather than make a pass to another player.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 27, 2017, 12:19:38 PM
According to reports, Victory offered $30,000 more than City.  Can't recall the exact figure but it was under $600k on a one year deal inside the cap.

Frankly, I think City can find a much better player for their money.  Troisi doesn't score nearly enough goals for a 10.

Agree. mellod.  I think City just dodged a bullet.  They have the cash to access a more effective player as a marquee.

He is also extremely selfish and 9 times out of 10 will choose to rocket a shot into row Z rather than make a pass to another player.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on July 28, 2017, 11:13:11 AM
Mariners have signed a Spanish striker Asdr?bal: http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-sign-spanish-striker-asdrubal/1m68if5uw5fx71m8nrvf0zj0l1 (http://www.ccmariners.com.au/article/mariners-sign-spanish-striker-asdrubal/1m68if5uw5fx71m8nrvf0zj0l1)

Almost an opposite of our Maccarone signing (although likely on much less money). He is in his prime years, but has less experience, is less known and less proven. Will be interesting to see how they compare over the season.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 28, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/26/carrusca-considering-league-options (http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/26/carrusca-considering-league-options)

JA and moore have f**k all likelyhood of signing anyone who isn't an undesirable (too old, too injury prone etc) so I'd imagine we have an offer in for him.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: BrynFC on July 28, 2017, 05:43:48 PM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/26/carrusca-considering-league-options[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/26/carrusca-considering-league-options[/url])

JA and moore have f**k all likelyhood of signing anyone who isn't an undesirable (too old, too injury prone etc) so I'd imagine we have an offer in for him.


Of course we have put an offer in.

he is 33, JA will get excited, as its just in his recruiting age bracket  >:(
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: gooseman22 on July 28, 2017, 05:53:08 PM
[url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/26/carrusca-considering-league-options[/url] ([url]http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/07/26/carrusca-considering-league-options[/url])

JA and moore have f**k all likelyhood of signing anyone who isn't an undesirable (too old, too injury prone etc) so I'd imagine we have an offer in for him.


Of course we have put an offer in.

he is 33, JA will get excited, as its just in his recruiting age bracket  >:(

Too young. Not enough experience.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 28, 2017, 06:27:41 PM
I wouldnt mind him. Rotating holman and carusca could negate their weaknesses. Holman....endurance. carusca ....motivation. RW isn't super important to us imo.... player daggers there ... he needs a push
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 28, 2017, 08:02:32 PM
I wouldnt mind him. Rotating holman and carusca could negate their weaknesses. Holman....endurance. carusca ....motivation. RW isn't super important to us imo.... player daggers there ... he needs a push
Carrusca certainly has great skills and still has a bit to offer.
If we are going with 3 4 2 1 which Dobo has posted would look something like this (which I think makes sense):
    Devere, Papa, North
Hingert TK Mckay/Caletti Brown
         Holman     FBK
                Macarone
then I am just not sure how we can use him.  If he only gets a bit part sharing with Holman, I don't think that will satisfy him, although I can see the logic.
If the plan is to revert to 4 3 3 on occasions, Corey Gameiro certainly gives us an option at RW. As per Dobo's post. Not Carrusca. And if Gameiro is injured, then options are Brady or Ingham. So I agree with Theo. Unless a we get a standout RW knocking on the door, I am starting to think we won't be bringing in another RW. 
I can't see Carussca coming.   
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 28, 2017, 11:57:58 PM
Honestly I don't think we have the players to play 3 4 2 1. But most importantly. ..we don't have the right coach.  JA has shown limited strategy besides CA and parking the bus. Or has he?

Ange's struggles with the formation showed it requires the right mix of players. Fast. The endurance to track back quickly and close down created as the back 3 are streached...and for 90 minutes. Having 2 youthful wingback isn't enough to make this work. From what I can tell. at least from how I understand the formation..a dm quicker than TK would be needed I think
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on July 29, 2017, 12:19:18 AM
What I saw when Ange's adventure starting to pay off was the other team struggling to manage 5 to 7 attackers appearing at the edge of their box, when they only had 5 defenders ready.
It's another phase in tactics, and quick adopters will benefit. If we can get to the middle of the season with the capability of playing two different systems depending on the opponent, I will be happy. Essentially every team has been lining up the same for the last ten seasons, and a little switch up will make things interesting. John may also be getting some tips from Ange, or at least doing enough study to prepare himself for the change.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 29, 2017, 07:35:49 AM
Honestly I don't think we have the players to play 3 4 2 1. But most importantly. ..we don't have the right coach.  JA has shown limited strategy besides CA and parking the bus. Or has he?

Ange's struggles with the formation showed it requires the right mix of players. Fast. The endurance to track back quickly and close down created as the back 3 are streached...and for 90 minutes. Having 2 youthful wingback isn't enough to make this work. From what I can tell. at least from how I understand the formation..a dm quicker than TK would be needed I think

Ange struggled because he has his players for only a few weeks a year and all those players spend most of the year playing completely differing styles.
A club coach has his players for 45 weeks a year  . JA has a lot longer to adjust his players to a new style .
I think too that people often forget that coaches are always learning . JA is a young relatively inexperienced coach. He will evolve and develop as he goes .
No coach is ever the finished product .
If JA can continue to develop and also keep us in the top three,I will be pretty happy with him.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on July 29, 2017, 09:12:41 AM
Honestly I don't think we have the players to play 3 4 2 1. But most importantly. ..we don't have the right coach.  JA has shown limited strategy besides CA and parking the bus. Or has he?

Ange's struggles with the formation showed it requires the right mix of players. Fast. The endurance to track back quickly and close down created as the back 3 are streached...and for 90 minutes. Having 2 youthful wingback isn't enough to make this work. From what I can tell. at least from how I understand the formation..a dm quicker than TK would be needed I think

Ange struggled because he has his players for only a few weeks a year and all those players spend most of the year playing completely differing styles.
A club coach has his players for 45 weeks a year  . JA has a lot longer to adjust his players to a new style .
I think too that people often forget that coaches are always learning . JA is a young relatively inexperienced coach. He will evolve and develop as he goes .
No coach is ever the finished product .
If JA can continue to develop and also keep us in the top three,I will be pretty happy with him.
I think that is right plus at the international level the  margin for error is very low. Get something slightly wrong and you will be punished.
25 years ago when my kids were involved in Brisbane North Rep sides, the standard was 3 - 5 -2. Within the 5 there were two defensive mids and two wide mids getting up and down the line. The fifth mid was more advanced in an attacking position linking the mids and the two attackers. In that sense you could say 3 - 4 - 1 - 2. And in the back 3, one was a sweeper. The difference with 3 - 4 - 2 - 1 is we are just flattening the back three, and dropping a striker into a deeper position. Am I missing the finer points?
Emphasis was on  possession and keeping the ball.
If BN still do this then Corey Brown should be right at home. Either way, they should adapt quickly.
Anyway, the boys trained like this with rep and 4-4-2 with club, and went ok.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 29, 2017, 01:46:46 PM
>> No coach is ever the finished product .
>> If JA can continue to develop and also keep us in the top three,I will be pretty happy with him.

Yeah true, that is the key caveat then. Not sure he'd have to balls to risk his job if it backfired though. He strikes me more as a pragmatist then a cowboy.

Chico, I like the idea of 2 dms....glad we kept north.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on July 29, 2017, 05:36:35 PM
I wouldnt mind him. Rotating holman and carusca could negate their weaknesses. Holman....endurance. carusca ....motivation. RW isn't super important to us imo.... player daggers there ... he needs a push
Carrusca certainly has great skills and still has a bit to offer.
If we are going with 3 4 2 1 which Dobo has posted would look something like this (which I think makes sense):
    Devere, Papa, North
Hingert TK Mckay/Caletti Brown
         Holman     FBK
                Macarone
then I am just not sure how we can use him.  If he only gets a bit part sharing with Holman, I don't think that will satisfy him, although I can see the logic.
If the plan is to revert to 4 3 3 on occasions, Corey Gameiro certainly gives us an option at RW. As per Dobo's post. Not Carrusca. And if Gameiro is injured, then options are Brady or Ingham. So I agree with Theo. Unless a we get a standout RW knocking on the door, I am starting to think we won't be bringing in another RW. 
I can't see Carussca coming.   

CR, I think we can assume that McKay will start ahead of JK, so that gives us a starting 11 like this (ages in Feb 2018):

Theo           37
Hinget   27
Papa           33
Brown    24
North   36
TK           34
McKay   35
Devere   28
Holman   33
Kalflallah   35
Maccarone   38

That's an average of 33.8.  Surely the oldest first 11 in the A  League's history.  I really have no idea what goes on in JA's head.

A team with 8 of their 11 players 33 or over is not going to challenge for anything. Holman will be 34 before the season ends.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 30, 2017, 08:36:46 AM
When you see those numbers it's mental.

Meanwhile. ..Okon seems to have recruitment more quality https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-go-double-dutch--469660. (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-go-double-dutch--469660.) And he is only 30!

Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on July 30, 2017, 08:42:02 AM
I would love to her postecoglou's honest opinion about this. JA's tactics, recruitment and disregard for Australian youth probably wouldn't sit well with ange.

As much as I love him as national coach..(because he pushes boundaries and get results) .. I'd love to see him one day coach in the a league after his OS stint to raise the bar here again. He is the coach of coaches imo
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: miron mercedes on July 30, 2017, 08:30:22 PM
I would love to her postecoglou's honest opinion about this. JA's tactics, recruitment and disregard for Australian youth probably wouldn't sit well with ange.

As much as I love him as national coach..(because he pushes boundaries and get results) .. I'd love to see him one day coach in the a league after his OS stint to raise the bar here again. He is the coach of coaches imo

My impression is that Ange is something of a mentor to JA . Didn't he recommend JA to the Roar ?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 04, 2017, 03:00:09 PM
Dario Vidosic has signed with the Nix
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: medley on August 04, 2017, 04:20:43 PM
I would love to her postecoglou's honest opinion about this. JA's tactics, recruitment and disregard for Australian youth probably wouldn't sit well with ange.

As much as I love him as national coach..(because he pushes boundaries and get results) .. I'd love to see him one day coach in the a league after his OS stint to raise the bar here again. He is the coach of coaches imo

My impression is that Ange is something of a mentor to JA . Didn't he recommend JA to the Roar ?

I'd love to know Ange's thoughts on the current management group.
Made up of at least two of the guys he got rid of.
It could be a while till we win a best and fairest award again.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: jamboree on August 09, 2017, 05:40:34 AM
There has been a lot of negativity about the roar signings over the off season but some perspective is necessary.

MVC
- signed their old players back again.....................Deng, Milligan, Barbour....Troisi
- they sign players known in the aleague .......Berisha, Barbour..., Austin, Ingham, Geria, Williams, Donachie
I haven't seen a lot of youth players coming through their first team.

SFC
- forward line of mostly overseas proven players -- Bobo, Ninkovic, Polish RW with old brosque the only australian attacker.

WSW
- Spanish striker, Jumpei, ? Martinez return, Bonevacia and Lustica (ex Roar)

At least the roar bring in 'new' players to the a league or bring australian players back. I realise that roar have signed an overseas marquee but at least some players around him are young australian attackers (gameiro, skapetis, d'agostino). We have had the only genuine, young australian striker for a long time in Maclaren. D'Agostino may become the next australian striker in the a league. Roar don't follow the rule of attacking players visa (in fact we only have 3 visa spots taken so far) and pack the defence with australians.

Id like to see where Sydney and MVC finish this year with ACL. If they both finish 1st and 2nd then fair enough. Roar finished 3rd with ACL + extra 2 games + off field stuff.



Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on August 09, 2017, 01:49:56 PM
There has been a lot of negativity about the roar signings over the off season but some perspective is necessary.

MVC
- signed their old players back again.....................Deng, Milligan, Barbour....Troisi
- they sign players known in the aleague .......Berisha, Barbour..., Austin, Ingham, Geria, Williams, Donachie
I haven't seen a lot of youth players coming through their first team.

SFC
- forward line of mostly overseas proven players -- Bobo, Ninkovic, Polish RW with old brosque the only australian attacker.

WSW
- Spanish striker, Jumpei, ? Martinez return, Bonevacia and Lustica (ex Roar)

At least the roar bring in 'new' players to the a league or bring australian players back. I realise that roar have signed an overseas marquee but at least some players around him are young australian attackers (gameiro, skapetis, d'agostino). We have had the only genuine, young australian striker for a long time in Maclaren. D'Agostino may become the next australian striker in the a league. Roar don't follow the rule of attacking players visa (in fact we only have 3 visa spots taken so far) and pack the defence with australians.

Id like to see where Sydney and MVC finish this year with ACL. If they both finish 1st and 2nd then fair enough. Roar finished 3rd with ACL + extra 2 games + off field stuff.
I have just been re-watching the qualifier of us v Tevez United/Shanghai last season. TK was immense.  Agree that Roar have brought in some awesome players. Broich, Berisha, Corona and TK.
Also immense that night was Borrello.
I would see Taggart as a genuine young Australian striker though he lost his way a bit when he went overseas. D'Aggers has potential but has a long way to go to show that he is up with Golden Boots such as Taggart and Macca.
Corey Brown was the young bolter who seized his chance last year. It's up to the likes of Caletti, D'Aggers, Ingham,  Oxborrow, Skapetis, and Gameiro to take the chance as and when it comes.
If I had to pick one player that is top of my worry list at Roar it is Luke De Vere. All credit to him that last year he overcame that shocking injury. But he really now needs to cut out the stupid errors. Starting today.
Agree that the ACL is the great leveller. We were doing well up to that Tevez United game but after that it really was a bridge too far with ACL and A League for us last year.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 09, 2017, 02:01:58 PM
There has been a lot of negativity about the roar signings over the off season but some perspective is necessary.

MVC
- signed their old players back again.....................Deng, Milligan, Barbour....Troisi
- they sign players known in the aleague .......Berisha, Barbour..., Austin, Ingham, Geria, Williams, Donachie
I haven't seen a lot of youth players coming through their first team.

SFC
- forward line of mostly overseas proven players -- Bobo, Ninkovic, Polish RW with old brosque the only australian attacker.

WSW
- Spanish striker, Jumpei, ? Martinez return, Bonevacia and Lustica (ex Roar)

At least the roar bring in 'new' players to the a league or bring australian players back. I realise that roar have signed an overseas marquee but at least some players around him are young australian attackers (gameiro, skapetis, d'agostino). We have had the only genuine, young australian striker for a long time in Maclaren. D'Agostino may become the next australian striker in the a league. Roar don't follow the rule of attacking players visa (in fact we only have 3 visa spots taken so far) and pack the defence with australians.

Id like to see where Sydney and MVC finish this year with ACL. If they both finish 1st and 2nd then fair enough. Roar finished 3rd with ACL + extra 2 games + off field stuff.
I have just been re-watching the qualifier of us v Tevez United/Shanghai last season. TK was immense.  Agree that Roar have brought in some awesome players. Broich, Berisha, Corona and TK.
Also immense that night was Borrello.
I would see Taggart as a genuine young Australian striker though he lost his way a bit when he went overseas. D'Aggers has potential but has a long way to go to show that he is up with Golden Boots such as Taggart and Macca.
Corey Brown was the young bolter who seized his chance last year. It's up to the likes of Caletti, D'Aggers, Ingham,  Oxborrow, Skapetis, and Gameiro to take the chance as and when it comes.
If I had to pick one player that is top of my worry list at Roar it is Luke De Vere. All credit to him that last year he overcame that shocking injury. But he really now needs to cut out the stupid errors. Starting today.
Agree that the ACL is the great leveller. We were doing well up to that Tevez United game but after that it really was a bridge too far with ACL and A League for us last year.

Unfortunately have to agree about Devere. Obviously has talent, but is prone to errors and doesn't have the pace to rescue himself. Can't wait to have Bowles back to give us another option.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 09, 2017, 04:05:28 PM
Daniel Mullen has signed with the Nix
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on August 11, 2017, 11:47:10 AM
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-will-make-the-finals---brama-470640 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-will-make-the-finals---brama-470640)


What a difference the right coach makes to recruitment?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Finsta on August 11, 2017, 12:17:09 PM
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-will-make-the-finals---brama-470640 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/mariners-will-make-the-finals---brama-470640)


What a difference the right coach makes to recruitment?
Time will tell.. The boy's only just arrived in town and he's spruiking it up as being the messiah.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on August 11, 2017, 01:51:47 PM
That's true. I guess I'm impressed by okons ability to secure 4 foreign players this season from good leagues whom have plenty of first team minutes and are of of the right age. On paper it sounds very good. That coupled with his young but experienced squad will make ccm a interesting team to watch. I hope they do well.
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on August 12, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
Why hasn't Kenny athiu been given a trial? https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/heidelberg-we-couldve-beat-glory-4-0-469914 (https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/heidelberg-we-couldve-beat-glory-4-0-469914)
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on August 25, 2017, 10:31:44 AM
Looks like Carrusca has signed with Melbourne City: https://twitter.com/up2Nate/status/900869230320508928
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: theoworldwide on August 25, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
Shame
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: coast on August 25, 2017, 06:19:58 PM
The top 5 is looking to me like:  SFC, Melbourne Victory, Wanderers, City and Adelaide.  We'll be in the dogfight for 6, I reckon.  Impossible to say how CCM, Wello, Jets and Perth are going to scrub up.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: mellod on October 01, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
Apparently Popovic has left the Wanderers to coach in Turkey. Ian Crook to take over until new coach is appointed. There goes the Wanderers season.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/western-sydney-wanderers/tony-popovic-quits-western-sydney-wanderers-to-take-up-role-coaching-karabukspor/news-story/b263e8d36ee77f54686c7e676f897ead (https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/teams/western-sydney-wanderers/tony-popovic-quits-western-sydney-wanderers-to-take-up-role-coaching-karabukspor/news-story/b263e8d36ee77f54686c7e676f897ead)
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: medley on October 01, 2017, 11:43:06 AM
Perhaps the Aloisis, Moore, Tiatto and Kingsman can relocate?
Title: Re: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Orange Emperoar on October 01, 2017, 12:12:10 PM
I think Moore is the best fit, with Tiatto as assistant. Unfortunately, I think Moore has his talons deep into SEQ and won't shift without a very good incentive.
Title: Re: HAL Player Movements/Transfer Thread #5
Post by: Chico Raul on October 01, 2017, 01:15:09 PM
I am not joining the chorus of anti JA supporters, although I am not happy with some of the behaviour, especially the incident at Adelaide last season. Apparently there was stuff going on during the Adelaide game between the Aloisi brothers and the  Adelaide bench, and prior to that game, there had been the fake news about the Aloisi brother going to Adelaide. None of which is an excuse for Ross's behavior in my book. Despite that, I am backing JA this season.
Over the past three seasons the club has had to deal with the issues around the ridiculous (imo) sacking of a double winning coach, not to mention the loss of Berisha, the debacle of a season that followed, and the off field financial issues prior to JA's first two seasons. 
With the departure of Thomas Broich (who I will forever remember for the great man he is), there are scarcely any players left from the Ange/Mulvey team.
The Ange era is over.  JA has built a new team on field (which I see as a transitional one) and pretty much all of the off field team has changed.
The last thing we need right now is instability.
It is JA's team now. He is gambling on experience which I believe will come home to bite him, but I understand that young  quality home grown players can be difficult to attract and retain. Which is something JA spoke about on Friday.
I am looking forwards to watching Caletti, Ingham, Oxborough, Skapetis, D'Agostino, O'Toole and Gameiro this season. (I can't say I feel the same about Brady) and hoping that these guys will develop as the backbone of a team moving beyond this season. If JA can achieve this, then he has done a good job.
As for WSW, I only hope that the eventual new coach is not an old guard, break down the opposition in transition by foul  means more than fair that I associate with Victory, Sydney FC, and Adelaide.
For Popper, as a coach who may well throw his hat into the Socceroo ring at some stage, more overseas experience to supplement the Crystal Place experience will be a good thing.  Although personally I am watching Paul Okon to see how he goes with an eye on a future national coach some day.