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Title: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Finsta on January 25, 2017, 10:22:27 AM
Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets

Marco Monteverde, The Courier-Mail

BRISBANE Roar attacking midfielder Dimitri Petratos will leave the three-time A-League champions at the end of the season to join the Newcastle Jets.

Former Sydney FC prodigy Petratos, 24, has made 92 A-League appearances for the Roar since moving to Brisbane in 2013 and was part of the squad that won the 2014 premiership-championship double.

The Roar offered him a new deal to remain in Brisbane beyond this season, but his desire to be closer to his NSW-based family as well as a better offer from the Jets led to his decision to depart Queensland.

Petratos?s agent Tony Rallis confirmed his client?s move, and also said there was a strong change that Petratos?s brother Kosta, currently at Perth Glory, will also join the Jets next season.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/brisbane/roar-midfielder-dimitri-petratos-signs-with-newcastle-jets/news-story/f5c5ac4e7f87cacbee36a3d8524adde5 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/brisbane/roar-midfielder-dimitri-petratos-signs-with-newcastle-jets/news-story/f5c5ac4e7f87cacbee36a3d8524adde5)
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: goalfeast on January 25, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
Wow, that's disappointing.  Good luck to him though.  I'm sure we'll find a replacement.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: David Gregory on January 25, 2017, 10:57:26 AM
Well looks like Devante Cluts days might be numbered.
Even heard his manager (andy harper) on fox say he needs to lift his game on sunday.
Cant play football if you cant run.

Macka saves the day again.
Arana average.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Finsta on January 25, 2017, 11:28:44 AM
I'm not too upset at this. Dimi was with us for a good while (almost up to 100 appearances) and did win the title with us. Probably is best for him now to explore new surroundings and have a fresh start.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Chico Raul on January 25, 2017, 11:43:16 AM
I'm not too upset at this. Dimi was with us for a good while (almost up to 100 appearances) and did win the title with us. Probably is best for him now to explore new surroundings and have a fresh start.
Personally I am very disappointed. In terms of our attack, I am a big fan of Dimi and Macca.
I just wonder what is going if Jets can make a better offer than Roar for next season.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: dobo on January 25, 2017, 12:16:42 PM
I'm not too upset at this. Dimi was with us for a good while (almost up to 100 appearances) and did win the title with us. Probably is best for him now to explore new surroundings and have a fresh start.
Personally I am very disappointed. In terms of our attack, I am a big fan of Dimi and Macca.
I just wonder what is going if Jets can make a better offer than Roar for next season.

I too am disappointed with this as i think we look better with Dimi out there than with holeman, But Aloisi was never going to give Dimi a start when Holeman was fit so it is a good move for Dimi, he needs to be starting.

I think that we would have been doing all we can to re-sign Jmac, i reckon that would have included committing a large chunk of the increase in the salary cap and keeping Dimi's contract low to offer Jmac a bigger contract.

we have some work to do replacing players for next season, Dimi gone, Devere, JMac, North and Broich, haven't re-signed yet, I expect Pepper, Arana and Katebian to not be offered contracts and Theo probably over it and not worth re-signing.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: goalfeast on January 25, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
I'm not too upset at this. Dimi was with us for a good while (almost up to 100 appearances) and did win the title with us. Probably is best for him now to explore new surroundings and have a fresh start.
Personally I am very disappointed. In terms of our attack, I am a big fan of Dimi and Macca.
I just wonder what is going if Jets can make a better offer than Roar for next season.

1.  maybe coz the current Jets players are getting paid too much.  Lets face it not many of them would start at any other club.
2.  cashed up Chinese owners ;)
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Harry H on January 25, 2017, 01:14:58 PM
Best of luck to Dimi. Not surprised at this.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: theoworldwide on January 25, 2017, 06:10:30 PM
It's not a good sign for a club to lose it's youth players. We've lost a lot of young players recently. Clut, Dimi, Jackson, Donachie. You could even include Lustica there.

The only reason I can think of is.... we don't give them games.

It's ok for the club to keep experienced players like North. But they shouldn't be playing 90 minutes every week. There is no rotation of youth. No opportunity. No wonder the younger guys walk out there door. I'm sick of it actually. Unless we turn around and replace Dimi with a proper AM (who is mid 20s with a big engine) then this is a big step backwards.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: vando88 on January 25, 2017, 08:44:05 PM
Dimi's ball skills and technique are of a quality class and I've been a fan of his for that reason, however at the same time I've also been a harsh critic or him when it comes to decision making and his defensive skills. In a league where games are such a "see-saw" affair a players should always be defensively aware as much as offensively, and for that Dimi's flaws somehow rubs out his flare and technique. You'll notice, he gets brushed off the ball quite easily when he is in position to jockey the opponent whilst steadying the ball, to which he'll hardly ever retrieve the ball back again. In addition, as our current squad stands, you can assume he's not gelling well with Oar, Maclaren or even Borello and that also could've contributed to his departure.

IMHO much of our woes stem from the inability to play quickly because we lack the skillset to required to swiftly counter teams or to play through their lines, and as point since we will be in the market for midfielder, I couldn't stress enough how beneficial it is to find a player who is capable of passing and shooting on both feet, because in terms of positioning the player could essentially mitigate the time it takes to receive the ball or kick the ball on a preferred foot, it'd help distributing the ball swiftly from the midfield and unbalance defences.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Dinoweb on January 25, 2017, 10:48:57 PM
I'm a Dimi fan. He's just starting to move into his best years, and despite his flaws, I'd rather see him playing for us than against us.

Signing players from Sydney is an ongoing issue though. Not many ever move away (domestically at least) for the majority of their careers. There's just too many clubs based within a couple of hours of Sydney who are prepared to lure the better ones back closer to home.

Queensland players for example, if they don't make it at the Roar, they have to move, with little likelihood of returning. Same goes for SA and WA, and to a slightly lesser extent Victoria.

It's one of the reasons I'm against another Sydney based team.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Yowie Dude on January 26, 2017, 11:09:33 AM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/ejd2k5.jpg)
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: theoworldwide on January 26, 2017, 04:31:26 PM
Haha. Best yet
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: miron mercedes on January 27, 2017, 08:02:32 AM
its not mojo he needs ....its a first touch.....and preferably away from the opposition instead of straight into them.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: dobo on January 27, 2017, 09:27:14 AM
It's not a good sign for a club to lose it's youth players. We've lost a lot of young players recently. Clut, Dimi, Jackson, Donachie. You could even include Lustica there.

The only reason I can think of is.... we don't give them games.

It's ok for the club to keep experienced players like North. But they shouldn't be playing 90 minutes every week. There is no rotation of youth. No opportunity. No wonder the younger guys walk out there door. I'm sick of it actually. Unless we turn around and replace Dimi with a proper AM (who is mid 20s with a big engine) then this is a big step backwards.

I would not expect to see a signing for AM next season (apart from possibly a young bench player). Dimi left because Aloisi was always going to play Holeman in that role (this season when not injured and next season), the writing was on the wall for Dimi, be happy to be a bit part player or leave. Im not saying a agree with Aloisi but if was Aloisi i would be looking to get in a 19-20 year old with potential to become a starter the season after next, someone that will push holeman for a starting spot towards the end of next season.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: mellod on January 27, 2017, 09:44:27 AM
It's not a good sign for a club to lose it's youth players. We've lost a lot of young players recently. Clut, Dimi, Jackson, Donachie. You could even include Lustica there.

The only reason I can think of is.... we don't give them games.

It's ok for the club to keep experienced players like North. But they shouldn't be playing 90 minutes every week. There is no rotation of youth. No opportunity. No wonder the younger guys walk out there door. I'm sick of it actually. Unless we turn around and replace Dimi with a proper AM (who is mid 20s with a big engine) then this is a big step backwards.

I would not expect to see a signing for AM next season (apart from possibly a young bench player). Dimi left because Aloisi was always going to play Holeman in that role (this season when not injured and next season), the writing was on the wall for Dimi, be happy to be a bit part player or leave. Im not saying a agree with Aloisi but if was Aloisi i would be looking to get in a 19-20 year old with potential to become a starter the season after next, someone that will push holeman for a starting spot towards the end of next season.

You'd think that would be Nathan Konstandopoulos. I think he is on a scholarship contract at the moment. Hopefully he starts getting some game time soon.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: theoworldwide on January 27, 2017, 12:36:14 PM
With Holman our only 1 experienced AM next year, what happens when he is injured again? He's missed almost 10 games this year right? If we didn't have dimi I doubt we'd have gotten many points and would be a lot worse off.

So my position is ...Holman didnt exactly set the team on fire this year.  He also confirmed that he is prone to injury. No surprise at his age.  So i dont think we can depend 100% on him and u question why we have him at all.

The roar should stop signing multi year contracts for new signings.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: dobo on January 27, 2017, 01:02:25 PM
With Holman our only 1 experienced AM next year, what happens when he is injured again? He's missed almost 10 games this year right? If we didn't have dimi I doubt we'd have gotten many points and would be a lot worse off.

So my position is ...Holman didnt exactly set the team on fire this year.  He also confirmed that he is prone to injury. No surprise at his age.  So i dont think we can depend 100% on him and u question why we have him at all.

The roar should stop signing multi year contracts for new signings.

I agree on some of these points, I havent been overly impressed by Holeman and really do question why we brought him in. but the fact is that he is here now so we have to deal with that. I dont think he is Injury prone, yes he has missed games this year but it wasnt an injury it was more just wear and tear from a long career. the clean out he has had should set him right for quite a while and shouldn't have many long term effects. I think he should be able to get through 90% of games next season. with (probably) broich, tommy oar, and either a replacement for Arana or Arana re-signing we have enough experience to cover CAM but should be looking for the long term replacement for these guys. A youngster that can push holeman and Mckay for their starting spots.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: fulltilt on January 27, 2017, 02:53:26 PM
the silly thing is that we had Ben Litfin who was QLD NPL 2016 golden boot winner with 19 goals in 20 games from the midfield and we asked him to leave. Go figure. 
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: mellod on February 06, 2017, 11:08:03 AM
So he mustn't have signed anything as he will be completing a medical to sign for Ulsan Hyundai. Very strange turn of events.

http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/petratos-to-complete-medical-in-kore/17izse2evszpp1ouynb7frne20 (http://www.brisbaneroar.com.au/article/petratos-to-complete-medical-in-kore/17izse2evszpp1ouynb7frne20)
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Finsta on February 06, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Great business by the club if this comes off.

By leaving this way we should be receiving a transfer fee whereas his move to the Jets would've been of no value to us.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: kb55 on February 06, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
Under the terms of the deal, agreed by all parties, Brisbane will sell Petratos for an undisclosed transfer fee, and Newcastle will receive a share of that as compensation for agreeing to let the player rescind his contract.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: kb55 on February 06, 2017, 12:21:40 PM
Had Petratos played for the Roar on Wednesday night, he would have been unavailable for Ulsan Hyundai?s own Champions League campaign.

He made the decision to accept Ulsan Hyundai?s offer after talks with Roar coach John Aloisi and the club?s football director Craig Moore.

It?s understood the Roar and the Jets will split the six-figure transfer fee.

Petratos? departure means the Roar will have only six rather than the permitted seven substitutes on the bench against Shanghai Shenhua.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: theoworldwide on February 06, 2017, 12:32:07 PM
What's the chance of Petratos doing well in Korea?  I can't think of a aussie midfielder doing well consistently in Asia
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Finsta on February 06, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
Had Petratos played for the Roar on Wednesday night, he would have been unavailable for Ulsan Hyundai?s own Champions League campaign.

He made the decision to accept Ulsan Hyundai?s offer after talks with Roar coach John Aloisi and the club?s football director Craig Moore.

It?s understood the Roar and the Jets will split the six-figure transfer fee.

Petratos? departure means the Roar will have only six rather than the permitted seven substitutes on the bench against Shanghai Shenhua.
Sounds like a fair and comfortable solution for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: BrynFC on February 06, 2017, 12:56:12 PM
Show me the Money$$$$$$$$$

Good deal for the club, even if we have give 50% to the Jets, win win for both clubs
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: denzele on February 06, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
So all that talk about wanting to be closer to the family it's crap . 🤑🤑
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: theoworldwide on February 06, 2017, 06:21:10 PM
Vidosic and Thwaite are now free agents.

Vidosic could be good. We need creativity in AM.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: Chico Raul on February 07, 2017, 07:50:43 AM
Decisions Decisions!
This should mean there is cash available to offer Macca an improved contract, but we are also first team player down going into the pointy end and beyond.
Dario would be an option. 29 years old. Local boy. I saw an article make mention of Adelaide though.
Adelaide have the ACL. We are still a maybe in that respect.
But does he really want to be part of a wooden spoon struggle at Adelaide as oppose to Finals at Roar?.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: dobo on February 07, 2017, 09:58:56 AM
Decisions Decisions!
This should mean there is cash available to offer Macca an improved contract, but we are also first team player down going into the pointy end and beyond.
Dario would be an option. 29 years old. Local boy. I saw an article make mention of Adelaide though.
Adelaide have the ACL. We are still a maybe in that respect.
But does he really want to be part of a wooden spoon struggle at Adelaide as oppose to Finals at Roar?.


the cash was always there to offer Mclaca an improved deal as dimi was never going to be on our books next season getting the transfer cash doesnt change the cap limit. The only thing this changes is if we dont bring in anyone to replace Dimi this season, we could offer Mclaca the extra that Dimi was getting paid for the rest of this season (not likely to be much, or enough to change his mind).

We already know we have at least an extra ~300,000 next season (as the cap will rise from 2.6mill to 2.9) Im sure our offer to Mclaka would have used the majority of that as well as some of dimi's wage. I really dont think we will be retaining him next season.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: theoworldwide on February 07, 2017, 10:43:05 AM
I think we let mac go. He needs to take his chances elsewhere. If JA makes the call now he can start recruiting a new AM and striker combo.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: coast on February 07, 2017, 04:18:47 PM
I think we let mac go. He needs to take his chances elsewhere. If JA makes the call now he can start recruiting a new AM and striker combo.

Agree.  If Aloisi insists on playing with a lone striker, Macca is not our guy.  I would love to see him in a 442 with Borello but surely that would have happened by now if it was going to.
Title: Re: Roar midfielder Dimitri Petratos signs with Newcastle Jets
Post by: BrynFC on February 07, 2017, 05:11:49 PM
I think we let mac go. He needs to take his chances elsewhere. If JA makes the call now he can start recruiting a new AM and striker combo.

Mac has to go back to Europe and have a shot, it's a shame we aren't going to get any coin for him, but i think we got him on a free transfer anyway and he was a joy to watch last season, this season has been hit and miss, he has to improve on being clinical.

Hopefully JA can pick up another decent forward that will work with JA tactics.

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