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Author Topic: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season  (Read 3634 times)

ausderek44

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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2012, 04:44:53 PM »
Our back 5 is set,

so i think Paartalu will remain deepest as usual. Then Nichols and Brattan would be my preference, otherwise Mass for Luke. Then Broich no.10, Henrique on right, Do on left, Bes up front.

But to have Fitzy and Ben pushing for places will certainly bring the best out of everyone
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Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2012, 05:14:07 PM »
Broich as DM?!
what is this craziness?!


i think henrique/halloran/dong will be on heavy rotation throughout the season with nichols and broich starting most games.
He played a lot deeper than usual on Tuesday night, and did it well. Can tackle.

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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #102 on: July 26, 2012, 05:14:56 PM »
Reports of Steff getting a long term deal.

Not happy Jan.

He was and will most likely continue to be a liability for us while Hingert who is supremely better sits on the bench, drives me insane!
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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #103 on: July 26, 2012, 05:51:59 PM »
Reports of Steff getting a long term deal.

Not happy Jan.

He was and will most likely continue to be a liability for us while Hingert who is supremely better sits on the bench, drives me insane!

Liability? I struggle to think of a time last season when he was completely caught out, or had a bad game. He is consistent, does his job, and is a good leader. Also the most important aspect he offers is his left foot... Something Hingert lacks. I might be old fashioned, but I've never been a fan of using a right-footed player at left-back, especially when cutting inside and having a shot isn't something we use in our system. How often did Steff get to the byline, and pull a cross back for someone to latch onto. Hingert unfortunately can't offer that. While I don't have anything against either of them, Steff is still good enough to go on for a while yet.... Some people on here can be very critical.

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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2012, 06:43:46 PM »
Broich as DM?!
what is this craziness?!


i think henrique/halloran/dong will be on heavy rotation throughout the season with nichols and broich starting most games.



He played their but a little slightly forward against the Olympic Tuesday. Only going by that in the formation above

Reports of Steff getting a long term deal.

Not happy Jan.

He was and will most likely continue to be a liability for us while Hingert who is supremely better sits on the bench, drives me insane!

Liability? I struggle to think of a time last season when he was completely caught out, or had a bad game. He is consistent, does his job, and is a good leader. Also the most important aspect he offers is his left foot... Something Hingert lacks. I might be old fashioned, but I've never been a fan of using a right-footed player at left-back, especially when cutting inside and having a shot isn't something we use in our system. How often did Steff get to the byline, and pull a cross back for someone to latch onto. Hingert unfortunately can't offer that. While I don't have anything against either of them, Steff is still good enough to go on for a while yet

+1 here
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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2012, 06:19:57 PM »
Broich as DM?!
what is this craziness?!


i think henrique/halloran/dong will be on heavy rotation throughout the season with nichols and broich starting most games.



He played their but a little slightly forward against the Olympic Tuesday. Only going by that in the formation above

Reports of Steff getting a long term deal.

Not happy Jan.

He was and will most likely continue to be a liability for us while Hingert who is supremely better sits on the bench, drives me insane!

Liability? I struggle to think of a time last season when he was completely caught out, or had a bad game. He is consistent, does his job, and is a good leader. Also the most important aspect he offers is his left foot... Something Hingert lacks. I might be old fashioned, but I've never been a fan of using a right-footed player at left-back, especially when cutting inside and having a shot isn't something we use in our system. How often did Steff get to the byline, and pull a cross back for someone to latch onto. Hingert unfortunately can't offer that. While I don't have anything against either of them, Steff is still good enough to go on for a while yet

+1 here

oh c'mon. I agree that he is a great leader and was a great player in his first season with us not to mention how good he was with the strikers in the NSL, but he simply shouldn't be our first choice LB.

He was terrible in the GF last season, had about a 50% pass accuracy at best, got exposed by Kewell at home on NYE, Adelaide United at home, GC away Sydney FC at home.

Hingert started at LB against Newcastle away in the second last round of the season and had a blinder, won a penalty and set up some close chances. He came on against the Coast on Boxing Day and got in behind their defence several times in the last 10 minutes, somehting steff didn't do for the other 80 minutes.

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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #106 on: July 27, 2012, 07:02:59 PM »
Broich as DM?!
what is this craziness?!


i think henrique/halloran/dong will be on heavy rotation throughout the season with nichols and broich starting most games.



He played their but a little slightly forward against the Olympic Tuesday. Only going by that in the formation above

Reports of Steff getting a long term deal.

Not happy Jan.

He was and will most likely continue to be a liability for us while Hingert who is supremely better sits on the bench, drives me insane!

Liability? I struggle to think of a time last season when he was completely caught out, or had a bad game. He is consistent, does his job, and is a good leader. Also the most important aspect he offers is his left foot... Something Hingert lacks. I might be old fashioned, but I've never been a fan of using a right-footed player at left-back, especially when cutting inside and having a shot isn't something we use in our system. How often did Steff get to the byline, and pull a cross back for someone to latch onto. Hingert unfortunately can't offer that. While I don't have anything against either of them, Steff is still good enough to go on for a while yet

+1 here

oh c'mon. I agree that he is a great leader and was a great player in his first season with us not to mention how good he was with the strikers in the NSL, but he simply shouldn't be our first choice LB.

He was terrible in the GF last season, had about a 50% pass accuracy at best, got exposed by Kewell at home on NYE, Adelaide United at home, GC away Sydney FC at home.

Hingert started at LB against Newcastle away in the second last round of the season and had a blinder, won a penalty and set up some close chances. He came on against the Coast on Boxing Day and got in behind their defence several times in the last 10 minutes, somehting steff didn't do for the other 80 minutes.



lol please... You've picked 5 games, and in none of them Stef cost us the points from a self-made mistake. Also in one of the games you mentioned, he assisted Berisha to scored a last minute winner. To say he was a liability is a laugh. Over the course of the season, everyone who played in the back-line was guilty of being "beaten for pace, out of position" etc. We don't have invincible defenders that can play robotic for 27 rounds without making a mistake.
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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #107 on: July 27, 2012, 08:31:03 PM »
I'm with Mighty Roar here.
The guy played in a team that got the double one year, then came second and won the GF in the next.
The same with any player in either of the teams. We had a bad blue patch after winning 36 games in a row, which lost us the double this year. No one player was responsible for that.
I reckon Steff has another season on the field full time. He strikes me as the type of bloke who'll tell Rado when he reckons he's not worthy. Looking forward to this season.
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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #108 on: July 27, 2012, 09:40:55 PM »


Steff is a boss

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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #109 on: August 04, 2012, 08:49:46 PM »
The only thing I'm a not a fan of is he takes forever to take a throw in. Annoys me when we're trying to play it quickly. The other thing you have to keep in mind with his pace is when he tore his ACL when he was with the Fury. An injury like that is known to slow you down a bit post rehab
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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #110 on: August 05, 2012, 08:37:38 AM »
Broich as DM?!
what is this craziness?!


i think henrique/halloran/dong will be on heavy rotation throughout the season with nichols and broich starting most games.



He played their but a little slightly forward against the Olympic Tuesday. Only going by that in the formation above

Reports of Steff getting a long term deal.

Not happy Jan.

He was and will most likely continue to be a liability for us while Hingert who is supremely better sits on the bench, drives me insane!

Liability? I struggle to think of a time last season when he was completely caught out, or had a bad game. He is consistent, does his job, and is a good leader. Also the most important aspect he offers is his left foot... Something Hingert lacks. I might be old fashioned, but I've never been a fan of using a right-footed player at left-back, especially when cutting inside and having a shot isn't something we use in our system. How often did Steff get to the byline, and pull a cross back for someone to latch onto. Hingert unfortunately can't offer that. While I don't have anything against either of them, Steff is still good enough to go on for a while yet

+1 here

oh c'mon. I agree that he is a great leader and was a great player in his first season with us not to mention how good he was with the strikers in the NSL, but he simply shouldn't be our first choice LB.

He was terrible in the GF last season, had about a 50% pass accuracy at best, got exposed by Kewell at home on NYE, Adelaide United at home, GC away Sydney FC at home.

Hingert started at LB against Newcastle away in the second last round of the season and had a blinder, won a penalty and set up some close chances. He came on against the Coast on Boxing Day and got in behind their defence several times in the last 10 minutes, somehting steff didn't do for the other 80 minutes.

I'm a huge fan of Hingert, and I think he is a great asset to the squad...but I think there's a major difference between having a blinder in the few games he's played for us, and performing consistently well, game in game out. Steff has done that, with a few bad games admittedly. But you name a single player - anywhere - who has got it spot on every single time he's stepped over the line. Agreed, I don't like his lack of speed in recovery, and I hate the 3 hours he takes to   throw in, but the rest of his game is consistently at a high standard. Hingert will step into his shoes when the time comes, and may well do a better job, but let's not write off the old fart yet....

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« Reply #111 on: August 05, 2012, 12:09:33 PM »
danning out? :O


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Re: Squad formation/tactics for 2012/13 season
« Reply #112 on: August 05, 2012, 03:20:13 PM »
lol please... You've picked 5 games, and in none of them Stef cost us the points from a self-made mistake. Also in one of the games you mentioned, he assisted Berisha to scored a last minute winner. To say he was a liability is a laugh. Over the course of the season, everyone who played in the back-line was guilty of being "beaten for pace, out of position" etc. We don't have invincible defenders that can play robotic for 27 rounds without making a mistake.

The most glaring eff up from Steff last year was v Adelaide when they scored that well constructed goal to go ahead at Suncorp that finished 1-1. His positioning and lack of closing the player with the ball down (off memory it was Dario) was the reason for that goal. I can remember similar situations during the season where he seriously left Matty and Mo exposed.

In his defence, that type of scenario is a direct result of the tactics that Ange pushed with the high playing wing backs. Although, Franjic rarely made the mistakes Steff did.

I do not accept that we would miss his crossing ability given that until now, crossing has not been part of our tactics. I can think of two goals all season that came off crosses and both were in the dying desperate stages of the game (GF v Perth and the cross Steff delivered to Bes v Sydney). For me Hingert is by far the better defender, there is no question there. However Steff does offer more width and attacking prowess.

 

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